A1S Healing WHM/AST, any advice?

We are having so much trouble healing A1S. We're each taking a tank and one prey target.. and we can't even make it to the jump half the time without something going terribly wrong.

At first, the AST couldn't top the tank off and keep him alive through the tankbuster, so I started helping as much as I could to at least get him topped off and prepared. After mastering that ( kind of.. ) we've got dps dying while trying to deal with prey/tankbuster. I keep Medica II up, but don't really have time to throw anything else out while everything else is going on. I pop divine seal as soon as prey hits, and it takes me 3 Cure II's to keep the prey target alive. Then I throw tetra at the AST's tank before the tankbuster because he's normally sitting around 30%, and heal my tank up before throwing out virus/eye.

We wiped for two nights and have seen the first jump once. Granted, the dps missed missles here and there, but I feel like the majority of the problem has been heals.

My group and I run AST and WHM. I'm the AST, and even though we have a WHM, I still go Diurnal.

Always keep Synastry for Preys. Put Synastry on your tank, and use a couple Benefic IIs on your Prey target - that will keep the tank up before tank buster. Then save Essential Dignity for right after the tank buster.

Well, there's one gigantic pitfall when it comes to the prey-missiles: You're not switching back to the tanks quick enough. Depending on how well geared the marked players are, two or three basic heals will suffice to keep them alive for the remainder of the missiles. In other words: Don't spend too many GCDs on the marked players, get a good feel how much effective healing they need to stay alive and switch back to the tank.

Additionally, before the lasers + Gunnery, there's 1 Royal Fount (The laser cleaving move) right after the Resin AoE drops.
A common mistake among healers is they did not top up the tanks from that particular Royal Fount, instead focusing on dodging the Resin AoE, and then the laser AoE, and then straight away prepare for Gunnery + Preys.
It is highly recommended to top the tanks up to full right after you dodge the Resin AoE, and before the laser AoE appears.

Thank you all for the tips, we're giving it another shot this weekend, so we'll see how it turns out.

As soon as the resin drops, cast a heal on the tank then regen. Run to the middle, cast synastry on tank, then cast aspected helios. Depending if you did this fast enough, you might be able to squeeze one last heal on the tank before the next step. Now cast regen on your prey target, cast 2-3 heals on them, then cast ben 2 on the tank (essential if he's way too low). Finally, cast disable on his target.

For preys, here's my rule of thumb: 2 GCDs on the victim (for example, 2x cure II, but less healing is needed as gear improves), then back to the tank. Timing takes a bit of practice. But you should not need 3 GCDs if you time it right. Make sure the target DPS isn't doing something stupid like popping B4B at that moment or they're gonna feel the pain.

Also, make sure the tanks are timing their DCDs right. Completely topping them up won't help if they eat 24k to the face.

Phase 2
1. Laser Drops, healer need to ensure everyone topup, and have medica2, Succor, etc
2. Boss uses AOE, succor again, ensure dps can take some extra damage, then healer move to edge ready to drop resin bomb.
3. During moving and while boss casting resin bomb, healer cast Adloquium and regen on both tanks. Cure 2 dps if needed.
4. Resin bomb drops, Healer return to center, cast medica2 and succor
5. Boss uses aoe, Healer cast medica1, emergency tactics + succor, top everyone up, very important. Then stay away from laser, but still near center, and casting Adloquium on your tank.
6. Boss Casting Prey, casting Adloquim, stoneskin, regen on your responsible target.
7. Prey started
7.1 1st missile drop, Adloquium is gone. Cast Another Adloguium on prey target
7.2 2nd missile drop, switch to tank, cast Adloguium/Cure on tank
7.3 3rd and 4th drop, cast cure2, physick on prey target, then lustrate tank
7.4 5th and 6th drop, cast cure2, physick on prey target, then virus boss, and lustrate tank
7.5 Cure, physick tank up, medica 2, succor in the center
8. Boss cast line aoe, healer switch to dps mode
9. Boss cast aoe, healer uses medica1, emergency + succor.
10. top up tank, medica2, Adloquim + Deplyment Tatics
11. Gather and dodge Resin Bombs, cast sacred soil, aoe heal, sheild up.
12. healer dps, and rotate.

This is how I play as sch.

Well we are here to give advice for the whm ? Or the AST ?

The AST should not have problem except mana management...
I mean on double prey you use synastrie + disable with focus target macro = tank light survive with half his life
Then you still have 4 or 5 sec of synastrie left to heal him with a enhanced spell.

As for the whm... I do not remeber what my co-healer do...
But i know he use some CD and regen

Well also depends on tanks and CD rotation... CDs; Holmgang; Hallowed Ground etc need different healing

As SCH (I know not in that setup) I single heal my tank with physick succor when lasers appear -> Double Gunnery -> throw another succor - > bait resin to edge, dodge Spaser -> succor before Gunnery and after to top up -> Physick on tank -> Physick on Prey -> Lustrate tank -> Adlo prey -> Tank buster uphealing with what I have

As WHM as you stated try keep Medica 2 up; M2 at laser appear (usually heals up for gunnery) -> bait resin -> another M2 after Spaser -> Regen on Prey -> C2 swapping between tank and prey (prey needs only 2 C2 usually) tank buster... heal up accordingly

Never healed it on AST so cannot give any advice there... but maybe to Asylum your Coheals tank when you on WHM might help.

60% of the classes do have CD´s to reduce incoming physical damage. Others like Bards that don´t have Access to thos crossclassskills can still help you with second wind.
If your DPS use those as marked this will help by a large margin. A bad equipped dragoon Needs two heals to survive the mark. A good one gets away with a Regeneration + 0-1 heals (e.g. while Standing in a Scholar bubble)

Dont overheal the marked one. If he survives with 100 hp you did better than if he survived with 100% hp. This is the most important part of the stuff I am writing. Start precasting on the marked target (bene2 as astro) the switch to the tank and back. Most players will be fine after the second heal. (Both tank and mark)

Hots are stronger in this fight but if your ast has trouble with this speciffic phase he should switch to Noct. stance. He should use synastry on the tank and heal his mark. The instant is an ability so it will not work on synastry. Beside he should not use his instant at the marks but after the tankbuster hit. That way he will reduce stress with the upcoming autoattack and can toss out an aoe hot for the upcoming aoe.

As WHM or perferebly SMN / BLM you can help your cohealer if you toss an eye for an eye on his tank the moment the adds spawn. The boss will hit some autoattacks and most propably will be debuffed as the buster hits.

If you got a Paladin he may guard a squishy being targeted. I do not recommend this. It works very well but is not very relient in cases the marked target in need is to far away. We used this for healers only as we still were underequipped.

And just because many Astrologers ignore it. Lightspeed. It does make a very big difference if you heals hit at the start of the CD instead in the end of it. You borrow one cd.

Sinaloa is right on one point... Overhealing the prey is useless

If the prey survive with more or less 50% it's enough
(It should have some regen on him anyway)

Because the top priority is healing the tank which will take massive damage right after the prey
(Tank buster + royal source)

DPS must be around 60 to 75% of their life to survive double canon and them being heal during jump.

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To me AST is the most efficient heal on this fight because of synastry
Lightspeed is a powerful boost CD but it burn your mana like hell !!!

At first this fight seems like it'll be impossible to heal, but you just need to get used to the rotation of the incoming damage. I'm a SCH and before we even got the clear our WHM was practically solo-healing it. I only helped heal double preys and topping up a tank for the tank buster. And of course shielding during the jumps. If you want to take on a similar role with Nocturnal AST, all you need to remember is after Resin you need to top up and shield your designated tank, get ready to heal your prey (Synastry would be great here), top up your tank after the tank buster and switch back to cleric. Shield during jumps and that's about it.

And good luck for the weekend! (:

I haven't read any of the thread comments but I'll leave this here anyway.

How to deal with tank buster phase:

WHM:
~after the resin bomb the oppressors will turn around and shoot lasers. Use Divine Seal + Presence of Mind.
~Precast Medica 2 for gunnery pods shortly after lasers
~Regen on tank and get ready to heal your prey target
~Prey target only needs about 2 heals esp if you're on Divine Seal. After the 2 heals they continue to take dmg but they wont' die
~Immediately switch to your tank and cure 2 and tetragammaton if needed.
~After buster heal tank with a cure 2 then immediately throw a small heal on your prey target to ensure he survives the next gunnery pod aoe.

AST:
~After lasers Regen and Synastry your tank if on Diurnal Sect or if Nocturnal Sect, shield your prey target and Synastry tank. (A spear card here would be a little nice if you just so happen to have one but not needed xD)
~2 heals on prey target. Just remember your prey target will not be topped off and will still take some dmg. In most cases they'll live with below 50% of their hp but they're not going to die.
~Essential Dignity and Benefic 2 on your tank. Edit: Disable on the oppressor (almost forgot about this one)
~After tank buster immediately heal your tank up with Benefic 2 and then Benefic 1 on your prey target so he has enough hp to survive the next immediate gunnery pod


Just remember this, in Savage everyone does not need to be 100% topped off to survive. When casting Medica 2 almost never cast a follow up Medica unless it's absolutely needed to survive the next attack. This is pretty much an endurance and you're going to need all the mp you can save in this encounter. WHM should always be aiming for cure 2 proc and using them as much as possible so it can proc again. AST should always be on top of their cards.