Raids loot restriction proposal.

Sometimes farming raids for items I get irritated by people who roll 'need'/'greed' on everything, even items they clearly don't need/cant use. (e.g. single person geting all sands/oils of time; players without single conjurer level win WHM pieces in WoD). And im not the only one.

Untill there is 'one item per week' restriction everyone thinks about what they really need. I think it would be nice if they would act same way when restriction is lifted.

My idea is, instead of completly lifting those restrictions when duty is old enough, make new restriction that is 'unlimited items per week but only one item per run'.

then people would leave after each boss and the newcomer will roll again on everything

I rolled greed on something I didn't need because I was being greedy and most likely selling it to a vendor if I couldn't sell in on the Market Board.

That's what that button is for, you know.

Retainer gear, seals, desynth, glamor etc is one of the few reasons to run that old content. Take that away (or well, severely restrict it) and you'll give them even less reason to run the content, and as others mentioned, people will ditch after each boss, especially if they win a lot (I mean this happens even when the content is current).

they could also roll on stuff to desynth it, no matter if they can wear it or not

I roll on basically everything in dungeons/older raids because it's free FC points. With my FC running 3 airships and wanting to start up the 4th, we go through a crapton of points on ceruleum tanks alone, not to mention what we use on company actions. It's a fairly small FC, so we all have to work at earning points; we don't have the millions upon millions stocked up that larger FC's end up with. If people ask me politely not to roll on gear for a certain class, I'm happy to pass. If they're jerks about it, they can suck it up and pray to RNGesus. If I could only roll on one item per run, frankly I'd just bail after I got my one item, craft for half an hour, and requeue.

did I miss something or how can dungeon gear give fc points for cerul tanks?

I roll on everything as well but not really for company points. More for seals to buy tome materials to help with company crafting. There's also gearing up off classes to consider. I mean, why struggle to gear and level when I can gear up THEN level, keep ahead of the curve gear-wise. The reasons to roll on gear, even gear you don't appear to need, vary widely. Restricting rolling on gear that's not considered vital anymore for frivolous reasons is... frivolous.

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Originally Posted by Roegadyn_Bear

That's what that button is for, you know.

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Ugh, I personally only roll greed on stuff that I will "need" relatively soon because one of my classes is near that level. If I intend to vendor something, I don't roll at all, because greed overrides "no roll" and I feel secondary need has higher priority than "I'll just trash it".

Sucks a bit because it keeps people waiting, but there is no "vendor" button, so...yeah.

You can turn in the items to your GC for seals, this in turn yields FC credits. This doesn't really count right away though since you typically can't turn in said gear until the next raid tier is released. As an example, LotA gear couldn't be turned in until ST was released.

This has been discussed several times at length. The only real argument that's ever made is "My way to play is the only way, so I should get the gear because I need it more than other people."

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

This has been discussed several times at length. The only real argument that's ever made is "My way to play is the only way, so I should get the gear because I need it more than other people."

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Pretty much. But to those angered by this, I'll note one thing. If you ask nicely for folks to pass on a certain piece of gear you need, like to actually use on an alt class or something--ask nicely, not sarcastically, and you will usually get what you want. Not always, but very often people will pass.

But no one's a mind reader, and using drops for other things (desynth, points, whatever) is perfectly valid.

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Originally Posted by Saphillia

Sometimes farming raids for items I get irritated by people who roll 'need'/'greed' on everything, even items they clearly don't need/cant use. (e.g. single person geting all sands/oils of time; players without single conjurer level win WHM pieces in WoD). And im not the only one.

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How will you know that the person don't have a healer job at lv50+ (there is no WHM gears, only Healer gears) or don't need it for desynthese or to earn GC seals?
Also, if nobody can roll Need, then there should be no problem about someone rolling Greed.

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Originally Posted by Saphillia

My idea is, instead of completly lifting those restrictions when duty is old enough, make new restriction that is 'unlimited items per week but only one item per run'.

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Sorry, but I don't think this is a good idea, especially when it comes to tanks or healers. I'm leveling AST and was in mostly Ironworks gear still when I went into The Aery. I needed every single healing piece that dropped just to keep the tank alive without having to pull out all the stops on every pull, and I often got multiple drops in a single run. Tanks also needs their drops so that they can survive and hold enmity. Your proposal would make dungeon runs far more painful than they really needed to be.

Yes, it is irritating when people take gear that they don't need, but the simplest fix to that is to run with people instead of DFing it. Even if it's only one person, that means you'll only have to out-roll two players instead of three.

I have a better suggestion, when Clicking Greed, the game will ask you what reason you need it for of the following options

1. "I want it for another class": Also counts retainers since you have to level the class on you before you can do the same for them.
2. "I want to turn it in for <Flame/Serpent/Storm> Seals" or "I want to sell it"
3. "I want to use that for crafting": Mostly for mats but also covers desynth items
4. "I want to project it": Glamour option
5. "I don't have that mount/minion": only available on the relevant items
6. Simple no reason response

This would also be implemented for Need but only on gear of a lower iLevel than your gearset (Example, an i199 needing on a Prototype Gordian Neckband of Fending). And it ill be nulled on Lootmaster runs and as a toggleable option on Greed Only runs


There are probably gonna be some lies, fibs and other abuses, but its a far better idea then limiting it to One loot per run.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

I have a better suggestion, when Clicking Greed, the game will ask you what reason you need it for of the following options

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This is needlessly complicated. If this is implemented with a priority system (greeding for "another class" having higher priority than greeding for "gc seals" for example), people would just pick whatever is the highest "priority" reason no matter what they want it for.