I tried to buy something from someone that's worth 30 million without going through the market board and I just noticed that the GIL trading limit is still 1 million... what gives? I just want to avoid paying over 1 million in tax on market board and now I have to take a risk of getting scammed by trading 30 times?
With the current state of the game and the price of most of the things, the trading limit should be at least 10 million. Making it staying at 1 million will not help battling RMT in any way and just opens a lot of opportunity for people to get scammed.
What you guys think?
why is the GIL trading limit still 1 million?
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10-10-2015, 01:11 AMShinFFwhy is the GIL trading limit still 1 million?
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10-10-2015, 01:15 AMDante_V
You don't pay tax if you purchase from the same area the retainer is selling from. Look next to the retainer name and it will tell you. Warp there and buy it = no tax.
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10-10-2015, 01:15 AMSir_Hermes
Honestly I think they just want to force people to take the tax, it's a huge Gil sink in this game, you buying that item would result in 1.5 million Gil taken out of the economy. It really helps lol... Now that there's no more housing for people to waste money on, TAXES lol
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10-10-2015, 01:22 AMShinFFThank you and I know about this, but will the seller not losing anything to tax in this way as well? Basically I'm trying to buy multiple expensive goods from the same seller and asking him to give me a deal. Figured that it would be easier just to trade face to face... guess that's not happening...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante_V
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10-10-2015, 01:28 AMGalactimus
Indeed, the Seller will lose 1.5mil selling a 30mil item. For big purchases like that I prefer to do manual trades as well. I've never run into an end-game scammer before. These situations can be handled by GM's anyways so it's not a big deal as long as you have a verbal agreement in the chat log.
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10-10-2015, 01:29 AMSir_Hermes
Also what Dante said, if you buy in that city-state, there is no tax for the buyer, only the seller. If you buy out of the city-state, there is a 5%tax for you and 5% tax for them, so on that 30million purchase, it would take out 3million
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10-10-2015, 01:34 AMDante_V
I understand what you are saying and it does indeed suck but I'm not sure square is going to make it easier to avoid gil sinks. They implemented them for an economical purpose and letting people circumvent that would kind of be counter to their entire implementation. Not saying I agree with said purpose but rather I doubt you'll get them to budge on the issue.
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10-10-2015, 01:42 AMOPneedNerfs
Without gilsinks, that item you want wouldn't be 30m right now. :)
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10-10-2015, 01:53 AMLineageRazorFrom what I've read, as long as you hash out the agreement in chat, GMs WILL protect you if the other party tries to cheat or scam you. Make the trade, if the other guy tries to run off with the goods, call a GM to report it and be sure to mention that the agreement was made in chat so that they can examine the chat history to verify that you are in the right.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinFF
As was said, though, this kind of scamming really isn't very common. It is likely you'll never have to contact a GM. -
10-10-2015, 02:02 AMAcyd
Move retainers to Ishgard. No sales tax i believe.
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10-10-2015, 02:20 AMGalactimusI believe it's a 2% Tax for Buyers and a 5% Tax for sellers in Ishgard atm. (Or vice versa)Quote:
Originally Posted by Acyd
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10-10-2015, 02:42 AMSilverbaneTrue, but only temporarily. They keep extending the exemption, but it does seem like it will end eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acyd
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10-10-2015, 03:19 AMShinFFAlright thank you. I guess in that case I'll just do manual trading then.Quote:
Originally Posted by LineageRazor
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10-10-2015, 05:49 AMFelisIt will end if enough retainers moved to the Ishgard market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverbane
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10-10-2015, 06:19 AMWinterLuna
In my experience, and a game like FF, people value their reputations too much to scam people. It costs money to change their name or server unlike some games where people could scam and change their identity so easily. In rare cases it happens of course but I've never heard of or seen it happen. As another player said, GMs would take it seriously if someone scammed you, I don't think most players would risk it.
Related to your point however, they should raise it at the very least to 5 mil. Some materials cost more than that alone, so you're forced to buy from the market board or take that small risk. -
10-10-2015, 06:39 AMGilraen
The only way I'd move my retainers to Ishgard is if I were to buy a house in Ishgard. Otherwise, they're staying put in Gridania. That said, the trade limit is still a thing because RMT is still a thing. Plain and simple.
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04-01-2025, 06:56 PMangelar_
Alert: this is still a solution in need of a problem a decade later, and it's only gotten more absurd as the total amount of gil in the market has massively increased. It doesn't do anything to stop gil sellers and inconveniences average players.
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04-01-2025, 11:46 PMArohk
The Gil limit is totaly pointless and makes it just more tedious, there are some Partyfinder groups that pay you if a mount drops , just saw a guy paying 9 million for Zelenia Wings.
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04-01-2025, 11:46 PMKunzite_Lockhart
I think trade restrictions and taxes exist to protect the game economy, slow down gil sellers, and control inflation.
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04-02-2025, 12:42 AMHallarem
I bet its coding. Same reason why they cant improve the friendlist. I bet they CANT change it without Estiniens left-buttcheek blowing off into pixels and half of Limsa dissapearing.
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04-02-2025, 06:32 AMMawlzyI'd hate to leave Estinien half-assed, but the second issue might actually be a boon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallarem
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04-02-2025, 08:18 AMAelin_Ashryver
It was annoying when I wanted to buy my houses on the new servers. I had to have my friends shift the gil and it took so... many.. trades... oof!