So you have THM and CON both at L50. Which would you use? I especially like those who actually have both CON and THM to L50 to post their thoughts and opinions.
THM or CON
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10-10-2011, 07:38 PMReikaTHM or CON
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10-10-2011, 07:47 PMRoll
I prefer CNJ because of Curaga/Curaga II, Raise II and Rebirth but THM has a better AoE for buffs(although not as potent unless it's Stygian Spikes), stronger nukes(Scourge and Banish) and the Regen from the Sacrifice spells lasts a bit longer.
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10-10-2011, 07:57 PMVahzl
THM has more of the Red Mage selection of spells and is angled in the debuffer way, CNJ is the healer/massive nuker of the game right now.
I would say go CNJ if you like high numbers, and THM if you like rotating the same spells over and over. -
10-10-2011, 08:00 PMBearforce
^agreed i only lvled up Thm for sacrifice and stygian spikes for more healing utility and nice mp buff
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10-10-2011, 08:06 PMVahzl
I was told when I first started as a CNJ back closer to release, STOP LEVELLING IT NOW AND BE A THM OR YOU WILL REGRET IT, so I levelled THM instead for SacIII and all the other nice bits, then they changed everything and now it's not so OP, but still, if you are going healer, you don't really have much choice than to level both classes, as SacIII + CureIII is necessary in endgame to keep up.
Also CNJ and THM combined have some nice non-spell abilities (like Soughspeak, Spiritbind and Blood Rite to name but a few) that when used together can keep your mana pumping, your spells destructive and the parties flowing nicely. -
10-10-2011, 08:28 PMReika
Of course you would rank both up for the spells, but when both are at 50, which would you remain as? Do you see any reason to play as THM as of now if you had both at 50?
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10-10-2011, 08:35 PMSpellbinder
If I may interject, I am also curious to see how the face lift on ancient magic has improved things. There was one post in the conjurer forum, and a very happy post in the Japanese forum, but I'd like to hear more.
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10-10-2011, 08:39 PMReikaAll conj attack magic is doing more than all THM attack magic. Shadowsear is laughable, while ancient magic does in the 1000's aoeQuote:
Originally Posted by Spellbinder
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10-10-2011, 10:06 PMyukikaze_yanagi
we totally needed a cross post.
If this is a thread "o look thm is gimp", then no, it isn't gimped -
10-10-2011, 10:09 PMDoho
also, in case you guys haven't noticed. Shadowsear is back in business! Ancient magic is lovely now too.
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10-10-2011, 10:14 PMVahzlSo what you meant in your original post is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reika
"I am first opening a thread to ask people a nice simple question, and having my own opinion and formed my own conclusions on this before even opening the thread, I am now going to harp on about how THM sucks". -
10-10-2011, 10:34 PMPikachuLink
i have both to 50, if you want to do damage go thm (their almost not healers anymore ) if you wanna heal go conjurer.....now if you want the most useful moves first and to have use as mage in party at 50 faster go with cnj first.
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10-10-2011, 10:35 PMPikachuLinkAM isnt aoe anymore. shadowsear rawks even more so with chainspell and the AM has like a 90 sec cast time. DMG Thm>cnj Heals cnj>thm. thread closed pick if you wanna heal or damage easy choices are easyQuote:
Originally Posted by Reika
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10-10-2011, 11:37 PMReikaNo, AM is aoe. I watched it being cast duoing with a 50 con.Quote:
Originally Posted by PikachuLink
And I didn't start this post to say THM is gimped, I was only answering a question.
I guess I should ask those who have both L50 in THM and CON if they actually played and experimented with both classes after 1.19, or at least payed attention in combat to other L50 THM and CON. -
10-11-2011, 01:50 AMviionAM is AOE, but it only AOE's on "Links"Quote:
Originally Posted by PikachuLink
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10-11-2011, 11:57 AMRoll
But... the patch notes for Ancient Magic says...
"・Now affects a single target.
・Recast time raised from 10 to 90 seconds.
* These six actions share a recast timer."
Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...tch-1.19-Notes -
10-11-2011, 12:11 PMDeadRiser
I use ancient magic all the time, it's an AOE.
The effecting a single target probably means that it will move with them, and not just explode on the spot they you initially cast it on. It attacks links and non links as well.
Even though I don't have THM to 50, I still prefer CNJ for their nukes. The AM is amazing now, and makes me want to be a black mage when roles come out -
10-11-2011, 12:16 PMJinrya-Geki
I hate both, cause neither of them can do damage when it counts, at the moment.