My Idea for Red Mage

Ok so whilst i was at work earlier i got bored and decided to write up my own take on Red Mage and how it can be implentened.

Red mage would be introduced in 4.0 and alongside it SE would bring back something from 1.0 that alot of people on the forums also would like back the Elemental Wheel.

in most itterations of Red Mage it has always been a jack of all trades using both White and Black Magic with the abilitie to deal decent damage with a Rapier. My take keeps true to that i hope. below I will detail the spells and skills it will use. WARNING LONG POST

Spells
WhIte Magic

Heal I: Singel target Cure spell with potency of 150
Heal II: Single target Cure spell with potency of 300
Heal III: Single target Cure spell with Potency of 450

Quake I: AOE with a Potency fo 80
Quake II: AoE with a Potency of 160
Quake III: AoE with a Potency of 250

Tonado I : AoE with a Potency of 80
Tonado II: AoE with a Potency of 100
Tonado III: AoE with a Potency of 140

Refresh: grants the user MP regan for 15 secs
Water I: Singel target with a Potency of 50
Water II: Single target with a Potency of 80
Water III: Single target with a Potency of 100

Black Magic
Icicle I - Deals Ice Damage over time with a Potency of 50 causes Frozen Status
Icicle II - Deals Ice damage over time with a Potency of 70 to all targets in range, causes Frozen Status

Burn I - Deals Fire DoT with a Potency of 50 also causes burn status
Burn II - Deals Fire DoT with a Potency of 70 to all targets in range. causes Burn status

Thunder Flare I - Envelopes the target in a sphere of electric and Stuns the target, Potency of 100
Thunder Flare II - Envelopes the target in a sphere of electric and stuns the target, Potency of 180

Dark I - Deals Shadow damage to target with Potency of 80
Dark II - Deals Shadow damage to target with Potency of 150
Dark III - Deals Shadow damage to target with Potency of 200

Banish I - Deals Non Elemental AoE damge with potency of 100
Banish II - Deals Non Elemental AoE Damage with Potency of 200

Bubble: Casts a protective shield over user raising defence but reducing M.DEF

Red Mage Exclusive

En Elemental - Grants the user an Elemental buff to the weapon based on the current terrain.

Libra: Exaimes target (Boss) and reveals elemental weakness, If En Elemental is used afterwards regardless of terrain it will grant the Element the boss is weak too

Red Lotus Blade - Strike with the fury of fire
Azure Strike - strike with the biting Wind - Combo Red Lotus Blade
Rapid Thrust - Three Consective Water Strike - Combo Azure Strike

Elemental Shield - Raises all elemental resistances for 30 Secs

Double Cast - Allows two spells to be cast at the same time

Royal Rage - Tank Stance - All Melee attacks generate more enimty and increased def by 10%

Royal Vision - Grants a 5% boost to Strength and Vitality can only be used whilst Royal Rage is active

Royal Bluff - decreases targets movement speed and def by 5% for 15
secs

Royal Wall - Grants the Party the effects of StoneSkin and Protect

Royal Flush - If successful makes the next attack a critical


I decided instead of it taking spells from the current list of White and Black I would give it its own Unique take on each element making it stand out more. Its main stat would be INT but it would benefit from Enchanced VIT traits to make up its HP, as well as traits to boost Royal Vision from 5% to 10% etc

AF gear would be

Royal Red Vest, Royal Red Cap, Royal Red Leggins, Royal Red Gloves and Feet. It would also be able to equip Shields but only Light Shields that Conjurer and WHM can use. Weapon of choice would be a Rapier. I am aware it can be alittle OP but its all good fun :P

Redmage was the main job I played in FFXI and I loved it. I was surprised it wasn't included as a job when this game was released.

yeah like wise, its a classic and with the hints from the rising I am trying to keep my hope down it will be included in 4.0 :)

So... it's a tank?

its a DPS that has a stance it can go into to tank just like WAR is a tank that has a stance that allows it to DPS

So it has a tank stance but no defensive cooldowns?

I did say it was a fun build I am no expert at these things I was just having fun with it lol

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Originally Posted by JaynanTesla

I did say it was a fun build I am no expert at these things I was just having fun with it lol

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I'm just trying to figure out the logic behind giving it the ability to switch to tank but then have no utility to make the viable :P
Removing the enmity bonus though you could make it akin to fists of earth and just modify royal vision to be another stance so you can switch between the two like monks.

yh thats not a bad idea, I got to 30 abilities and started to lose my inspiration and went with the dark and banish spells instead.

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Originally Posted by JaynanTesla

its a DPS that has a stance it can go into to tank just like WAR is a tank that has a stance that allows it to DPS

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What purpose would the tanking skills serve?
If Duty Finder considers RDM a DPS, then you won't be using the tank skills if you aren't bad. (Much like how SMNs who aren't bad don't use Titan Egi in parties)
For solo content, existing classes get by without being tanky.

How would the gear stats work? Prior to Heavensward, there wasn't a huge difference in defense between, say, DRG and Tank gear.
DRG i130 chest & Tank i130 chest are 119 def vs 167 def respectively, for a difference of 48 def.

However, the rate of defense growth in Heavensward has quickened.
i160 DRG chest = 224 def , i160 Tank chest = 320 def (96 def difference)
i210 DRG chest = 319 def , i210 Tank chest = 456 def (137 def difference)

Mind you, this is just looking at P.Def. DRG's M.Def is even worse by comparison.

How about cross-class skills?
What classes would your RDM cross class from?

I am trying to understand why everyone doesn't want a melee bard like role for Red Mage. Then it can do melee damage, buff/heal people, have spells, and look cool doing it all. The Red Mage of FFXI could do a little bit of everything and as close as you can get to that role in FFXIV is bard.

Whatever they do for red mage will be fine as long as people understand that it will not be the job it was in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by RocheKat

I am trying to understand why everyone doesn't want a melee bard like role for Red Mage. Then it can do melee damage, buff/heal people, have spells, and look cool doing it all. The Red Mage of FFXI could do a little bit of everything and as close as you can get to that role in FFXIV is bard.

Whatever they do for red mage will be fine as long as people understand that it will not be the job it was in FFXI.

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It isn't about whether or not people want RDM, but rather, it's about how RDM should/could be implemented in this game.
Everyone has their own idea of how they want RDM to be, but most suggestions aren't really viable for FFXIV's combat model.

A Redmage changing stances to tank wouldn't work in this game the same way it worked in FFXI. The cross class abilities allowed for more versatility in FFXI. At release I played a Redmage and I was put in the "support healer" category because healers were few and far between. I didn't get a chance to play as dps or off tanking much.
SE could (with careful design) make the Redmage work as a tank/dps/healer type but they would be the "Jack of all Trades" job like they were in FFXI. They would most likely be dps with the ability to off heal and off tank in certain situations (maybe)

I'd like to see the job added but not like it was before. Mainly because the games are totally different in design and job mechanics and I don't think the Redmage would fit in if it's design is like it was in FFXI.