Using Disciples of Land abilities on Chocobo?

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10-09-2011, 04:45 AM
Len

Using Disciples of Land abilities on Chocobo?

Why can't we use abilities like Arbor Call, Gull Eye, and Lay of the Land while on Chocobo?
10-09-2011, 01:24 PM
Technolust

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Originally Posted by Len

Why can't we use abilities like Arbor Call, Gull Eye, and Lay of the Land while on Chocobo?

Wow, be happy you have chocobos to speed up the process.
10-09-2011, 01:25 PM
Denmo

because you can't use any abilities on chocobo.

Duh.
10-09-2011, 08:24 PM
Reika

Would be nice if those 3 abilities were usable on chocobo back tho. all they do is give you a Distance and direction, theres no animation for them.
10-10-2011, 04:07 PM
Eruantien

would be a bit too easy to find nodes if you are perminantly at an increased speed. chocobos make the quickening skills pointless
10-10-2011, 05:22 PM
Reika

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Originally Posted by Eruantien

would be a bit too easy to find nodes if you are perminantly at an increased speed. chocobos make the quickening skills pointless

Yea all those are a nice waste of marks for me now. But, you have to pay for chocobo too.
10-10-2011, 05:25 PM
Raikki

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Originally Posted by Eruantien

would be a bit too easy to find nodes if you are perminantly at an increased speed. chocobos make the quickening skills pointless

But you ARE always at increased speed. You just use the ability right after you finish a node, hop on chocobo and go that direction for that many yards--I mean yalms. It's just annoying if you forget to use the ability to get back off your chocobo, use it, and get back on. I don't see any problem letting us do it while mounted.
10-10-2011, 08:56 PM
EmeraldHill

Yes, it would be great to have this. No reason not to!
10-11-2011, 07:51 AM
Estellios

I'd like this feature too. Not having Stealth on chocobo makes sense, but this would be really nice.
10-14-2011, 04:54 AM
Jinko

Yea I'd like to see this added as well, why is that are always more people ready to protest at someones idea than to support it ?
10-14-2011, 06:47 AM
Len

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Yea I'd like to see this added as well, why is that are always more people ready to protest at someones idea than to support it ?

A simple convenience like this one is apparently a bad thing! :rolleyes:
10-25-2011, 03:37 AM
Rukkirii

Thanks for your feedback! We relayed your request about using abilities, such as those that let you survey the land while riding on a chocobo to the dev. team and they let us know that although they can’t make any promises, they are strongly looking into implementing this feature.
10-25-2011, 03:43 AM
Aleczan

Thanks for looking at the request LOL. Really appreciate it.

Honestly, though, I don't agree we should get the exemption and be able to use DoL abilities while riding the chocobo. I am a heavy gatherer, too, and I am very super uber happy I have a chocobo to ride out there while I'm gathering. I don't mind jumping off my chocobo to survey the land (use ability) for my next destination. It only requires 1 click of my mouse, or 1 hit of shortcut keyboard button which I assigned for my Chocobo Whistle. And it only takes like 1 second.
10-25-2011, 04:28 AM
CoDeWa

I see three options for this, two of which seem most pleasing. 1: They could add animations to the ability. This gives the player the feeling that he/she is not getting off of their chocobo to see a single line of text. 2: They could simply allow players to use the abilities on or off of their chocobo. I personally would prefer the animations for added visual integrity of the game, but the second choice isn't a bad move either.
10-25-2011, 04:33 AM
Grudgebringer

Another option would be an arrow on your mini map. Kind of like the Yellow arrow for when your out of range for leve mobs used to be.
10-25-2011, 04:42 AM
Kiote

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

Thanks for your feedback! We relayed your request about using abilities, such as those that let you survey the land while riding on a chocobo to the dev. team and they let us know that although they can’t make any promises, they are strongly looking into implementing this feature.

While you're at it, can we get an adjustment on Arbor's Call style abilities. Thanks to personal chocobo's it makes no sense to run 200 yalms, even with quicken, if you can freely hop on and off your chocobo.
10-25-2011, 04:46 AM
Jinko

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Originally Posted by Kiote

While you're at it, can we get an adjustment on Arbor's Call style abilities. Thanks to personal chocobo's it makes no sense to run 200 yalms, even with quicken, if you can freely hop on and off your chocobo.

And what bout people who don't have a lvl 30 character to get a chocobo ?
10-25-2011, 04:51 AM
Estellios

It also helps you figure out where a mature tree is if you're too far away for the locator abilities to work. It's not much but it is what it is.
10-25-2011, 04:56 AM
Xenor

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Originally Posted by Aleczan

Thanks for looking at the request LOL. Really appreciate it.

Honestly, though, I don't agree we should get the exemption and be able to use DoL abilities while riding the chocobo. I am a heavy gatherer, too, and I am very super uber happy I have a chocobo to ride out there while I'm gathering. I don't mind jumping off my chocobo to survey the land (use ability) for my next destination. It only requires 1 click of my mouse, or 1 hit of shortcut keyboard button which I assigned for my Chocobo Whistle. And it only takes like 1 second.

The V2 screenshot shows chocobos as being part of battles, so why not get them more involved in gathering too? The system to use actions on a chocobo will have to be implemented for V2 so they may as well let you use the DoL skills too.
10-25-2011, 05:01 AM
Airget

I do see the movement speed moves being adjusted at some point since the Guild mark ones are pretty useless once you get chocobos. But I honestly don't think it's worth the time to allow you to use abilities on the chocobo it really just takes all of 2-5 seconds to get on and off a choco to check the area which doesn't really seem like a big deal to me lol.

I'd rather the team develop on abilities that gatherers can use to enhance their abilities with gathering rather then solely rely on passive abilities.
10-25-2011, 05:29 AM
Abauge_Goga

Not a bad idea OP.
Would be nice if they would allow chocobos to dig, similar to FFXI, maybe a better system.
10-25-2011, 06:00 AM
Dekken

I was just thinking about this last night when I was gathering. It would be really nice to be able to use some passive abilities while on your chocobo.
10-25-2011, 08:59 AM
Ramsey

There's no logical reason flavor wise, or gameplay wise that one would have to dismount to "Look around." It's not equivalent to using a battle command or synthesis action. Because when surveying, you just dismount, use it and remount. It's just an necessary convenience that isn't justified for by gameplay or immersion. There's no reason it would be unfair to allow DoL to survey from choco-back.
10-25-2011, 10:42 PM
Jinko

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Originally Posted by Airget

I do see the movement speed moves being adjusted at some point since the Guild mark ones are pretty useless once you get chocobos. But I honestly don't think it's worth the time to allow you to use abilities on the chocobo it really just takes all of 2-5 seconds to get on and off a choco to check the area which doesn't really seem like a big deal to me lol.

Fair enough, seeing as its not a big deal to you never mind the rest of the people in this thread /sigh
10-25-2011, 10:50 PM
Aleczan

People state their opinion based on what they feel, think, or have experienced. It's not like one person's opinion would dictate the outcome. I feel it's rude to insult or imply an insult on other people's opinion. If you have other opinion, just state it. We can discuss or agree to disagree. If you sigh at people who simply said he doesn't feel like it's a big deal, other people might also sigh at you for feeling it's a big deal.
10-25-2011, 11:34 PM
Tiraelina

It's a quality of life change, not needed or required but would be very nice to have. It isn't really useful feedback when you just go whatever its 5 seconds every use suck it up. It's really pointless needing to dismount every time you want to use it. DoL gets the most use out of having a chocobo and some of the zones have really ridiculous node layouts.
10-25-2011, 11:49 PM
Aleczan

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Originally Posted by Tiraelina

It's a quality of life change, not needed or required but would be very nice to have. It isn't really useful feedback when you just go whatever its 5 seconds every use suck it up. It's really pointless needing to dismount every time you want to use it. DoL gets the most use out of having a chocobo and some of the zones have really ridiculous node layouts.

Wrong. He said that he could live with it because it doesn't bother him, and in addition he gave an opinion of what else he thinks would be more helpful.

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Originally Posted by Airget

I do see the movement speed moves being adjusted at some point since the Guild mark ones are pretty useless once you get chocobos. But I honestly don't think it's worth the time to allow you to use abilities on the chocobo it really just takes all of 2-5 seconds to get on and off a choco to check the area which doesn't really seem like a big deal to me lol.

I'd rather the team develop on abilities that gatherers can use to enhance their abilities with gathering rather then solely rely on passive abilities.

Jinko just didn't quote the full reply.

That kind of attitude (the /sigh over there and the page 1 reply) made me wonder if people who're allowed to speak up are only those who want change or want to demand/suggest new things. People who like or support the current system, as well as give the reason why they think the system is alright, has no place to voice their opinion? Sad.

As for the suggestion, since the dev team would like more opinion from players, I think it's fair to give reason why we want it, as well as the reason why, if, we think the current system is already good enough.
10-26-2011, 12:14 AM
Darkrose

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Originally Posted by Aleczan

Thanks for looking at the request LOL. Really appreciate it.

Honestly, though, I don't agree we should get the exemption and be able to use DoL abilities while riding the chocobo. I am a heavy gatherer, too, and I am very super uber happy I have a chocobo to ride out there while I'm gathering. I don't mind jumping off my chocobo to survey the land (use ability) for my next destination. It only requires 1 click of my mouse, or 1 hit of shortcut keyboard button which I assigned for my Chocobo Whistle. And it only takes like 1 second.

Though I don't mind too, but after keep hoping back and on the Chocobo none stop, my ear start bleeding from hearing the whistle sound and my thumb go numb after pressing it too much.
10-26-2011, 01:00 AM
Jinko

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Originally Posted by Aleczan

Wrong. He said that he could live with it because it doesn't bother him, and in addition he gave an opinion of what else he thinks would be more helpful.

Jinko just didn't quote the full reply.

That kind of attitude (the /sigh over there and the page 1 reply) made me wonder if people who're allowed to speak up are only those who want change or want to demand/suggest new things. People who like or support the current system, as well as give the reason why they think the system is alright, has no place to voice their opinion? Sad.

As for the suggestion, since the dev team would like more opinion from players, I think it's fair to give reason why we want it, as well as the reason why, if, we think the current system is already good enough.

There is nothing to stop the dev from doing both though is there ?

Why even say I would rather they spent time on such and such ?

Fixing these skills to work whilst on a chocobo seems like a fairly small task compared to some of the things they have lined up, especially considering you can already change class and armor whilst on a chocobo.
10-26-2011, 01:13 AM
Aleczan

Dev said they'll look into it but can't make any promise. It's not definite yet, either way of it.