Have you guys tried doing Dragonskin Map solo?

I've tried it solo using SCH and I got the 3 phase mobs. But I'm mad on the last phase, the monster did damage like 3k and it's HP around 20% but I died. :(

How about you guys?

Tried as a DRG, got wrecked.

I tried to solo a Peisteskin back in like 2.4.

I got the #*$&ing Chimera.

Never again (at least not for at-level maps).

You can two man them with DPS chocobos, my BF is WAR and I WHM them. We haven't gotten the vanu vanu map since we've started two-manning them, so I don't know how well we will do on that one.

Have two-manned them WHM/BRD, no chocobos. The dinosaur one was the hardest we've found, most of the rest are a single mob tankable by my BRD partner while I regen/Tetra etc and kite anything else that spawns until it resets, then Assize/Holyspam until death.

Healer and tank/melee dps combo can do it but you can't solo it with current gears.

Been duoing them for ages now with my WHM partner. I am usually a SMN with Titan egi. I also tried BLM at some point but we failed the Vanu one with me BLMing so now we don't risk it anymore. We're pretty much curbstomping them now. (Also the past 5 days, a whole 10 thav silk in total dropped for me!!!!)

I get my butt whooped alone lol
(WAR, no choco)

WAR + Any healer has enough DPS to nuke down any of the Maps as a 2-man team. We use our choco's to help us get the weekly 100 kills for our birds (Mine's rank 15, 10 attack/9 heal, friends is 9heal.)

The Vanu map in particular is rather violent, however. It's the only one that you're going to be not-sure if you'll clear in time, because for some reason they have REDICULOUS hp values and spawan in groups of 3-4 for 3 waves.

Take 3 people is my advice for your standard player. But if you got a partner you have faith in and a balanced comp (Don't try to do this with just DPS or healer + DPS, some of the mobs hit hard even on my tank) then you should have no problem duo'ing it.

As others have mentioned, I tend to two-man them with a Chocobo out. I play White Mage, my friend used to Black Mage but switched to Dragoon recently due to the gear disparity between them. Dragoons make for surprisingly durable off-tanks, actually. :p

I could see some of them being soloable with some gear behind you, though. Much like the Chimera of Peisteskin maps though, I'd imagine some enemy setups will need a lot more than upgraded Esoterics things. I've been outright murdered by 2 Vinegaroons simultaneously critting me with their auto-attacks and Underbite when being complacent with the CC. :/

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

WAR + Any healer has enough DPS to nuke down any of the Maps as a 2-man team. We use our choco's to help us get the weekly 100 kills for our birds (Mine's rank 15, 10 attack/9 heal, friends is 9heal.)

The Vanu map in particular is rather violent, however. It's the only one that you're going to be not-sure if you'll clear in time, because for some reason they have REDICULOUS hp values and spawan in groups of 3-4 for 3 waves.

Take 3 people is my advice for your standard player. But if you got a partner you have faith in and a balanced comp (Don't try to do this with just DPS or healer + DPS, some of the mobs hit hard even on my tank) then you should have no problem duo'ing it.

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Getting choco medica makes companion a worse healer in my opinion XD

I've been duoing without chocobos using WAR/SCH. I feel like I could solo the mandragora map, but we got the Vinegaroons the other day and their AOEs were obnoxious.. as soon as one cast, the other started. >:|

I stopped trying to do 8 man maps when I got a bunch to Duo with my friend over a long period of time (stopped and retried the maps again at higher item levels etc..) and 3/5 times we tried chimera popped.

My sch and I (drg) always 2 man but I feel we would get wrecked alone

Such and war can kill anything

I've never tried solo, but I did try once in a two man group, with me as a MCH and the other as a DRK. We got utterly destroyed. Of course, we were both fresh 60s and didn't even have Law gear at the time, so that might have something to do with it.....

I've done plenty of Dragonskins with a WAR friend as a SCH, even without chocobos.

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Getting choco medica makes companion a worse healer in my opinion XD

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Oh, does it? Is it the cast time on Medica or is there some other reason it's so bad?

Can't imagine why having access to an AoE would be bad for the birds. XD But definitely interested to know the reason why.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Oh, does it? Is it the cast time on Medica or is there some other reason it's so bad?

Can't imagine why having access to an AoE would be bad for the birds. XD But definitely interested to know the reason why.

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For some reason, they tend to spam the crap out of Medica even if only one person needs healing.

The AI just needs some adjustment, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Oh, does it? Is it the cast time on Medica or is there some other reason it's so bad?

Can't imagine why having access to an AoE would be bad for the birds. XD But definitely interested to know the reason why.

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Mine is at rank 20, but only to 9 in each skill tree. The aoes have lower potency than single target skills, and they don't use them intelligently (as mentioned below). Avoiding tank/dps aoes also makes sure they don't pull non-aggro mobs.

Me(dps) and my friend(healer) and her friend(tank) are trio those maps o_o Every1 is around ilv185.

Strongest enmys group are those 2 Tyrannos with some adds! >_> Those Tyrannos deal extremly heavy damage!

Wouldn't it be logical to take more people on these?

From what I remember on the level 50 ones, everyone got full drop. There was no roll for loot. If you get 8 people and they all have one, that's 8 loot drops, no?

I'm able to stay alive for 5 min as solo Paladin (thanks to Clemency) but simply don't have enough DPS to finish Wave 2 of the Vanu Vanu map.

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Originally Posted by Ksenia

Wouldn't it be logical to take more people on these?

From what I remember on the level 50 ones, everyone got full drop. There was no roll for loot. If you get 8 people and they all have one, that's 8 loot drops, no?

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Loot drops to random members (And some people want it for their own crafting)
Certain unique-items, such as Thavanian Silk/Leather, is lottable by everyone. Some people have trust issues - and I make sure I get all people to confirm in party chat before hand that they WILL NOT LOT outside their orb.

Basically, less people = better for me. More items in my pocket, too, and smaller pool of people I have to 'trust.'

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Loot drops to random members (And some people want it for their own crafting)
Certain unique-items, such as Thavanian Silk/Leather, is lottable by everyone. Some people have trust issues - and I make sure I get all people to confirm in party chat before hand that they WILL NOT LOT outside their orb.

Basically, less people = better for me. More items in my pocket, too, and smaller pool of people I have to 'trust.'

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I just end up running them with 2-3 people from my static. We destroy the maps, plus there's no trust issues with the drops.

Did them PLD/SCH with two birds. One was tank/dps one was healer.

Got to stay in cleric stance for most of it, bird was offtanking one of the harder mobs. Was one in western highlands. Can't remember which now though.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

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Yeah I am the same way, luckily we have a crafting linkshell where everyone pretty much obeys the rule of "Your map = loot". However sadly those sticky fingered people (not in the linkshell) that gotta get the word in writing so you can report to the GM just incase. xD

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

Yeah I am the same way, luckily we have a crafting linkshell where everyone pretty much obeys the rule of "Your map = loot". However sadly those sticky fingered people (not in the linkshell) that gotta get the word in writing so you can report to the GM just incase. xD

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I thought that was the standard agreement?

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Originally Posted by hagare

I thought that was the standard agreement?

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You would think but if its not said, GM cant really enforce it if its not agreed on. So if a random does swipe your minion/item you are kinda outta luck.

Was going swell, then the black mandragoras did their zerg swarming thing.

Not surprised they're not soloable yet, with a little more gear we will probably start to see WARs and SCHs managing to solo them followed by the other tanks, healers and SMNs with titan soon after. Will probably still be a long while before the other DPS start to be able to solo them due to lower self heals (my MCH in particular seems to not have access to any self heals at 50)