Ranged LB not working on slopes

Like someone in the JP forums mentioned, the ranged LB doesn't hit your target when there's a slope involved.

http://i.imgur.com/NHTCQ56.png

Top bar: The current state of LB aoe
Bottom Bar: Ideal LB aoe

This has pretty much existed since the start of FFXIV, with people exploiting Twintania's divebombs in a similar fashion by making use of a slope. From then on, all Boss fights occurred on flat ground to cover up this fault.

Is it difficult to factor in height into the code/program?

I don't think t5 divebomb was a exploit but yeah maybe they should fix this

The point of the slope for twintania was to make sure she always dive bombed outside of the arena apart from that small area

but yes this new LB issue has been a problem since seal rock was added

I've mentioned this a long while back and it hasn't gotten any attention (even though they had forwarded to the accepted bugs section)

It's utterly infuriating since ranged LB is technically lower damage than caster with a much lower effective range, made all the worse that you can't even take advantage of most of the bottle necks on the high ground nodes

The pit in T5 was nothing more than a physical landmark. The tactic could have worked from many locations, it was just easy to do there since that's also where the next set of adds spawned. The actual elevation and going up and down had nothing to do with dodging the divebomb.

I was under the impression that all AOEs, including LBs, had an exclusively horizontal property to them.

http://i.imgur.com/V2gsNeG.jpg
Twin's Dive on flat ground.

http://i.imgur.com/Nw8sgGg.jpg
Slope exploit. People who were slow in running up that hill still got hit by that AOE.

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Originally Posted by Aphel

I was under the impression that all AOEs, including LBs, had an exclusively horizontal property to them.

http://i.imgur.com/V2gsNeG.jpg
Twin's Dive on flat ground.

http://i.imgur.com/Nw8sgGg.jpg
Slope exploit. People who were slow in running up that hill still got hit by that AOE.

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But can u really call it "exploit". So is using tempered will etc also a exploit cause I can dodge divebombs with skills like this too?

It's taking advantage of a flaw in the system. Whether it can be termed 'exploit' is another argument for another day anyway.

Can't they make it so that the LB originates from the source and ends exactly at where the target last was, with height factored in?

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Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3

But can u really call it "exploit". So is using tempered will etc also a exploit cause I can dodge divebombs with skills like this too?

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How is using a slope can be related to using an in-game ability that is designed for such attacks?
Before you reply with "slope is designed to avoid such attacks as well", no they aren't designed for such attacks for example: Chimera's trial where you it up and tank it above a rock and dragon's voice won't hit ranged at all, how is this not an exploit?

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Originally Posted by Kapiz

How is using a slope can be related to using an in-game ability that is designed for such attacks?
Before you reply with "slope is designed to avoid such attacks as well", no they aren't designed for such attacks for example: Chimera's trial where you it up and tank it above a rock and dragon's voice won't hit ranged at all, how is this not an exploit?

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Actually it doesnt matter since there is no real difference in difficulty to dodge the db with the slope or not (atleast for me). Comparing it to the LB issue mentioned above is meh cause it works a bit different. And no its not that "hard" to fix it but I could imagine there are some problems x.x

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Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3

I don't think t5 divebomb was a exploit but yeah maybe they should fix this

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A better example of this exploit is Dhorme Chimera. Pulling it to the top of the hill made it so that no ranged/casters were hit by the Dragon's Voice. This is 100% an exploit since an entire mechanic is ignored.

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Originally Posted by Kassiekane

A better example of this exploit is Dhorme Chimera. Pulling it to the top of the hill made it so that no ranged/casters were hit by the Dragon's Voice. This is 100% an exploit since an entire mechanic is ignored.

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"ignored" You still get hit from db if one of ur group messes up.

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Originally Posted by TiaHariberux3

"ignored" You still get hit from db if one of ur group messes up.

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I'm not talking about divebomb since its a bad example, so I used a better one. And just to make things clearer, the dragon's voice exploit is completely relevant to the issues that ranged adrenaline rush has in frontlines.

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Originally Posted by Kassiekane

I'm not talking about divebomb since its a bad example, so I used a better one. And just to make things clearer, the dragon's voice exploit is completely relevant to the issues that ranged adrenaline rush has in frontlines.

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I noticed just wanted to make things clear cause I didnt liked the t5 example xD

I had a dragon on the slope in churning mists all the breath attacks go into the hill on the steep hills. Tried with a few different mobs with front attacks and they all disappear into the hills with out even having to move if you were on the high ground. They did seem to slope down the hill when I stood below them. This doesn't help with limit break, but it seems like it is a common problem with front attacks not registering slopes.