Physical Heavensward OST instead of itunes?

Hey there,

In regards to the HW music available online.

Do you think we are getting a phys version of HW OST as well?
I would like to purchase a physical copy so hesitating to buy it on itunes now.

You mean the one that's currently sold out?

That's not for Heavensward though but just the music from the 2.2 to 2.5 patches. What Belmont is referring to is this mini expansion music album that has just been added to itunes. Sadly at the moment there doesn't seem to be a physical edition to it though...

Here's to hoping.

I don't use a iProduct anymore so I'm kinda out of luck.

I'd expect a full Heavensward OST to come out sometime after 3.1, and it'll included the 3.1 music as well, pretty much like they did with the Realm Reborn OST. Pretty sure they said they'd do one, but they do take quite a bit of time to make, and Soken is rather busy ;)

I didn't know they offered FFXIV's various sound tracks over iTunes. This sounds so much more reasonable than distributing it on Blu-Ray. The only Blu-Ray devices I have are the PS3 and PS4. Not ideal machines for music. And no way of getting the songs off those onto my iPhone.

A physical Heavensward soundtrack isn't going to be available until they have enough tracks to make a physical copy worthy of purchasing. No one's going to bother purchasing a physical copy if it only contains seven tracks!

I hope they release it physical or atleast put it in other places like amazon, personally I hate itunes.

I just want the Ishgard daytime theme. Sometimes I'll just plop my character down in the main plaza just to hear that glorious music. Also, word up for being one of the only Mateus people on the forums. Woot Woot.

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Originally Posted by Laraul

No one's going to bother purchasing a physical copy if it only contains seven tracks!

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Clearly you've never met a Justin Bieber fan.

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Originally Posted by Laraul

I didn't know they offered FFXIV's various sound tracks over iTunes. This sounds so much more reasonable than distributing it on Blu-Ray. The only Blu-Ray devices I have are the PS3 and PS4. Not ideal machines for music. And no way of getting the songs off those onto my iPhone.

A physical Heavensward soundtrack isn't going to be available until they have enough tracks to make a physical copy worthy of purchasing. No one's going to bother purchasing a physical copy if it only contains seven tracks!

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They include mp3 files also.

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MP3 Files Included
In addition to the high-quality sound and video that you can experience on your home Blu-Ray player, we have included compressed zip files of all the songs in MP3 format (320kbps)! Extract the music files using a Blu-Ray disc player (including the PlayStation®4, PlayStation®3), or a Blu-Ray compatible PC, and take the music on the go in your favorite MP3 player.

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Originally Posted by Laraul

I didn't know they offered FFXIV's various sound tracks over iTunes. This sounds so much more reasonable than distributing it on Blu-Ray. The only Blu-Ray devices I have are the PS3 and PS4. Not ideal machines for music. And no way of getting the songs off those onto my iPhone.

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You actually can get the songs off of the Blu Ray, even if using a console. There is an option on the Disc you can select which will display a URL (it's the consoles local IP Address I believe), on your PC (assuming it is on the same network as the console) enter the URL into your browser and you will get a list of the tracks which you can then download. This is also the only way to access to hidden track on the disc, which you can't access by simply playing it.

So I noticed they released Dragonsong sung by Susan Calloway (love her!) on this mini soundtrack which is all fine and dandy, but what about Answers?? I've been waiting forever for SE to release Answers and still nothing... but here I get Dragonsong without even having to bat an eye... needless to say I'm a little frustrated...

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Originally Posted by MoonPhaseAlpha

So I noticed they released Dragonsong sung by Susan Calloway (love her!) on this mini soundtrack which is all fine and dandy, but what about Answers?? I've been waiting forever for SE to release Answers and still nothing... but here I get Dragonsong without even having to bat an eye... needless to say I'm a little frustrated...

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Answers was released on the "Before Meteor" disc.

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Originally Posted by MoonPhaseAlpha

Really? Because I don't see it on the track list... was it a hidden/bonus song?

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/be...sy/id948674916
Look at the last song, for some reason it was put as the last song.

Ah yes, I see it now... thanks!

We were told previously that the songs would be released in mp3 format before the disc version becomes available, so it shouldn't really be a surprise.

Yeah they have said digital release first before getting a physical release later down the line.

Greetings!

Soken had commented on this during the Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXIII:

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Q: When will you sell a soundtrack with the music added in Patch 3.0?

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A: Yoshida: It might be the death of Soken.

Soken: Our plan is to first sell it digitally, and once a bit of time passes from that we will release a higher quality version on disc. We’d like to start the digital sales around the time of Tokyo Game Show 2015.

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So as mentioned, these are just the first steps to be able to make some of the music available while also working on a disc-based version for a future release!

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

These are just the first steps to be able to make some of the music available while also working on a disc-based version for a future release!

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Obligatory PLEASE LOOK FORWARD TO IT. I figure that, like the ARR soundtrack, they might wait until the x.1 patch until finally compiling it into hard copy. It makes sense.

I know this is more a company-wide concern than a FFXIV-only concern, but could the powers that be please look into a wider distribution than just USA/Britain/Japan for products like this in the future? (I want to give you money; why do you refuse my Aussie dollars, Square?!)

Why itunes? How about google and or amazon? Apple is gross.

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Originally Posted by Apoptomon

I know this is more a company-wide concern than a FFXIV-only concern, but could the powers that be please look into a wider distribution than just USA/Britain/Japan for products like this in the future? (I want to give you money; why do you refuse my Aussie dollars, Square?!)

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This.. a million times over.. from myself and my whole AUS/NZ FC.....

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Originally Posted by xanj

Why itunes? How about google and or amazon? Apple is gross.

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Agreed. Please at least put it on Amazon or Google for those of us who don't have or want iTunes.

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Originally Posted by LunaHoshino

Agreed. Please at least put it on Amazon or Google for those of us who don't have or want iTunes.

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They probably have a deal with them or something o.o

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Originally Posted by LunaHoshino

Agreed. Please at least put it on Amazon or Google for those of us who don't have or want iTunes.

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I think that's what the hard copy version is for, which upon becoming available will be on Amazon.

I did not know Google had a music service. I know Amazon has Amazon Prime but have never used it for digital music purchases.

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Originally Posted by Laraul

I think that's what the hard copy version is for, which upon becoming available will be on Amazon.

I did not know Google had a music service. I know Amazon has Amazon Prime but have never used it for digital music purchases.

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What about those of us who want to purchase it online without a physical copy? I'd just end up ripping the music from the CD either way, but they don't ship to Australia so that's a problem. Does iTunes use some form of DRM on their music?

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Originally Posted by Laraul

I think that's what the hard copy version is for, which upon becoming available will be on Amazon.

I did not know Google had a music service. I know Amazon has Amazon Prime but have never used it for digital music purchases.

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Yeah, Google Play has a music store where you can purchase songs and albums in MP3 format. I have an intense dislike for iTunes and its proprietary system, so I buy all of my MP3s from either Amazon or Google. I really don't want to purchase a physical copy; all I want are the MP3s.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Does iTunes use some form of DRM on their music?

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No...

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Originally Posted by LunaHoshino

I have an intense dislike for iTunes and its proprietary system, so I buy all of my MP3s from either Amazon or Google.

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iTunes doesn't use a proprietary system. All files are encoded in AAC and can easily be re-encoded to whatever format you wish (MP3, WMA, OGG, etc).

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Originally Posted by Laraul

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iTunes doesn't use a proprietary system. All files are encoded in AAC and can easily be re-encoded to whatever format you wish (MP3, WMA, OGG, etc).

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I was under the impression you can't do that on iTunes. The whole point being so that you couldn't buy songs on iTunes and play it on a separate medium, you had to use an iDevice.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

I was under the impression you can't do that on iTunes. The whole point being so that you couldn't buy songs on iTunes and play it on a separate medium, you had to use an iDevice.

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Prior to March 2009, Apple did use a DRM technology on music purchased thru the iTunes store, albeit they never wanted too. Steve Jobs himself noted his objection to using DRM back in early 2007, saying that Apple did not want to use DRM but was forced by the musical labels. Since March 2009, all music downloaded from iTunes, regardless when it was purchased, is DRM free.

Slightly off-topic, but any chance of seeing ARR/Heavensward songs on RockBand 4?

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Originally Posted by Laraul

iTunes doesn't use a proprietary system. All files are encoded in AAC and can easily be re-encoded to whatever format you wish (MP3, WMA, OGG, etc).

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It's proprietary in the sense that A) you can't even purchase music without first downloading iTunes, and B) you have to re-encode it to put it onto a non-Apple MP3 player, neither of which are things I wish to do. With Amazon and Google, you click a button, and boom, you've got an MP3. No program download or re-encoding needed.

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Originally Posted by LunaHoshino

It's proprietary in the sense that A) you can't even purchase music without first downloading iTunes, and B) you have to re-encode it to put it onto a non-Apple MP3 player, neither of which are things I wish to do. With Amazon and Google, you click a button, and boom, you've got an MP3. No program download or re-encoding needed.

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If you purchases games thru Stream you have to download and install that too.. Would that make Steam proprietary?

iTunes distributes music encoded using the Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) encoding standard. It's widely supported across a wide range a portable players and devices. Android and Windows Phones both support AAC. As the PS3, PSP, PSVita, Nintendo 3DS, Microsoft's Zune. Blackberry does too. It's a widely supported standard.

Seriously pull your head out from under the ground once in a while...

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Originally Posted by Laraul

I didn't know they offered FFXIV's various sound tracks over iTunes. This sounds so much more reasonable than distributing it on Blu-Ray. The only Blu-Ray devices I have are the PS3 and PS4. Not ideal machines for music. And no way of getting the songs off those onto my iPhone.

A physical Heavensward soundtrack isn't going to be available until they have enough tracks to make a physical copy worthy of purchasing. No one's going to bother purchasing a physical copy if it only contains seven tracks!

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Correction: No one is going to buy a physical copy of an OST if it only contains seven handpicked tracks and purposely leaving out the tracks everyone is looking for.

Anyone who is an avid OST owner like me, knows what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by Laraul

If you purchases games thru Stream you have to download and install that too.. Would that make Steam proprietary?

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The fact that you must run these games through Steam, and Steam itself acts as a form DRM I believe yes, Steam is proprietary. They can, if they so choose to, remove a game from their library and make it so that you are unable to download it again should you for whatever reason, remove it from your library. I'm also pretty sure they can simply make it so you can't download it even if it was in your library, but thankfully that has never been an issue (for me).

Itunes is also DRM too. You own nothing lol.

iTunes doesn't have DRM, and you can just copy the songs to whatever device you want and transcode them if you want. If you buy an album and download the songs, you do actually own them, and you can keep listening to them even if they're removed from iTunes as long as you keep a local copy of the songs.

And to be honest, if a physical OST had only 7 tracks, and those are 7 tracks I like, then yes, I'd buy it.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

The fact that you must run these games through Steam, and Steam itself acts as a form DRM I believe yes, Steam is proprietary. They can, if they so choose to, remove a game from their library and make it so that you are unable to download it again should you for whatever reason, remove it from your library. I'm also pretty sure they can simply make it so you can't download it even if it was in your library, but thankfully that has never been an issue (for me).

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To be fair, Steam has said that if it fails for whatever reason and needs to shutdown, it would release code that makes Steam games playable in offline mode/without steam should anything happen. Also I dunno about iTunes, but if they shutdown and make all your purchases useless, they would get a ton of flak and their business would prolly be ruined, so, they probably have some form of contingency plan allowing you to play the songs in any music player.

Again, the moon would need to collide with the earth sending it head-long into the sun for those 2 companies to fail.

Reference: https://www.quora.com/What-would-hap...-service-today

comparing itunes to steam is a bit like comparing a turd to a delicious tender steak. itunes is a digital media marketplace and a terrible one at that. steam is a digital market place that also happens to be a launcher this believe it or not makes it a bit like xbox live and or PSN in that respect(not in looks or exact functionality).

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Originally Posted by Wildsprite

comparing itunes to steam is a bit like comparing a turd to a delicious tender steak. itunes is a digital media marketplace and a terrible one at that. steam is a digital market place that also happens to be a launcher this believe it or not makes it a bit like xbox live and or PSN in that respect(not in looks or exact functionality).

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Eh, not really. Both platforms launched their respective media into the digital age so to speak. iTunes was one of the first digital music platforms around, wasn't it? Instead of buying a lot of CDs from random places, you just bought them off iTunes. The same can be said for Steam, if not for Valve and Steam PC Gaming wouldn't be where it was today.

The key difference being is that there's no plenty of better alternatives to iTunes, from Amazon, Spotify, or Google Play Music. Steam is still the best and really the only viable PC marketplace and it'll be like that for long time as no one is going to up and abandon their entire collection which (for me) has cost over $5,000 so far. Apple has locked themselves into mostly Apple products officially. This is way off topic though, I don't see why SE wouldn't just release the OST on their website and allow us to buy it that way, Google Play Music even.

PS. Both iTunes and Steam are "turds", well; at least until Steam improves their non existent customer support.