DoL Retainers?

Can I make a retainer have one of the DoL jobs? Someone's comment implied one could... is it true?

Yes. Not sure if you have to have the class unlocked but they can be any class in the game. I have a miner and had a fisher but since switched the fisher to gladiator. You just have to equip their main hand with that classes tool. If you're switching a class have to remove their equipment then select switch retainer class.

Yes you can you just have to have that class unlocked. The retainers as always can only level to the level of your current class and the starting weapons can be found in each main city that you originally got the class.

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Originally Posted by MeridaQ

Yes you can you just have to have that class unlocked. The retainers as always can only level to the level of your current class and the starting weapons can be found in each main city that you originally got the class.

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The retainers' max level on a certain class is the same as your level in that class. My botanist retainer is capped out at level 34 at the moment because that's the level I'm botanist at.

Retainers can be DOL, DOM, and DOW classes but can not become jobs of the DOM/DOW line, the max level of each retainers class is dependant on your own level in that same class/job as each retainer can not surpass their master, I am not sure about heavensward jobs if retainers can be those but if you got 4 I recommend setting it up as

1. your main class
2. miner
3. botanist
4. fisher

if you got more then
5. miner
6. botanist
7. miner
8. botanist
or you can copy 1-4

Botanist is pretty useless now though...

Why would Botany be useless now? Somehow I have it stuck in my head that Botany gathers mats to support CUL & ALC, the 2 crafting jobs I want to eventually acquire (errr, level cap, I may take the others to 15 for cross class skills).

I have all 3 DoL jobs around 20ish now on my main, so I can start one of my retainers on one of the three. Is it true that once equipped, gear I assign to the retainer can not be used on my main (I'd assume so, just checking to make sure)? AND are the ventures I assign to her going to be specific to acquiring ore, plants, or fish?

You can not wear the gear your retainer has equipped. Its no longer in your inventory when your retainer has it. You can assign specific items to be gathered. Though its level based. Every 5 levels will grant new items, also not sure if you would to have gathered them also before it becomes available to your retainer. When I leveled my gatherers, except for fisher I would go and gather atleast one of each item on the list so my retainers always had a full list of items.

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Originally Posted by RiversideGuy

Why would Botany be useless now? Somehow I have it stuck in my head that Botany gathers mats to support CUL & ALC, the 2 crafting jobs I want to eventually acquire

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I'm not sure why Botany would be considered worthless. (There may be some endgame reason I haven't gotten to yet, though.) Yes, it does gather most of the crafting components for CUL and ALC.

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Originally Posted by RiversideGuy

Is it true that once equipped, gear I assign to the retainer can not be used on my main (I'd assume so, just checking to make sure)?

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No. Your character and retainer can't both wear the same item at the same time, and you cannot change your retainer's gear while he/she is in the midst of a venture, but between ventures you can swap something back and forth between them. I'll occasionally switch my best (Ironworks) gear which I usually use myself as Bard onto my archer retainer so he can have the higher item level long enough for a quick venture or two on days when I'm focused on crafting or leveling my other classes.

One other note about retainer gear:
For DoL retainers, the only stat that affects their results is Gathering. There's no need to equip them with the other DoL gear that improves Perception or GP.
For DoW/DoM retainers, the only stat that affects their results is Item Level. Gear has to be wearable by that class, but it doesn't matter whether its stats would normally be suited to the class or not.

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Originally Posted by RiversideGuy

AND are the ventures I assign to her going to be specific to acquiring ore, plants, or fish?

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There are three types of ventures you can assign:

A Hunting, Mining, Botany, or Fishing venture takes 1 hour (or maybe less if it's a high level retainer going on a low level venture), costs 1 venture token, and returns several of an item of your choice (with the list of choices being dependent on your retainer's class and level). For this type of venture, you have to have already gathered the item at least once yourself (though that's not true of the other two types of ventures).

A Quick Venture takes 1 hour, costs 2 venture tokens, and returns a random item. It may or may not be related to your retainer's class. It might, if you're lucky, be one of the rare items that are exclusively available through ventures (or if you're not so lucky, it might be nearly worthless junk). The amount of experience you get is variable, depending on the quality of the item brought back. Your retainer has to level up a little (I think it's level 10) before you can do this type of venture.

A Field, Highland, Woodland, or Waterside Exploration Venture (which are all essentially the same thing, just named according to your retainer's class) takes 12 18 hours, costs 2 venture tokens, and returns a random item (or a few of a random item) and one or more Allagan Bronze or Silver Pieces. It gives more Experience than a Hunting, Mining, Botany, or Fishing venture, and more than most Quick Ventures. (Though it's possible that some of the best Quick Venture results exceed it's XP. I'm not entirely sure on that part.)

Another great post Niwashi, thanks so much.

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Originally Posted by RiversideGuy

Why would Botany be useless now? Somehow I have it stuck in my head that Botany gathers mats to support CUL & ALC, the 2 crafting jobs I want to eventually acquire (errr, level cap, I may take the others to 15 for cross class skills).

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Before HW it was quite good, but now, not so much, because most useful things are hidden and retainers can not gather them.

Thanks Erendis, I had both retainers as DoL and I just changed my botanist to DoW (at level 38) because I wasn't finding much use for the mats I was getting. That confirms I made the right decision :)