PC players using PS4 controller

Just a few questions,

1. Do you have to use BetterDS3 or Motioninjoy to use a PS4 controller or does windows 8 have the drivers?

2. Does the vibration work?

Currently using a PS3 controller via BetterDS3 and I get no vibration when fishing, however on the vibration test in betterDS3 it works.

1. Neither. I use scpserver. Those two other programs kept dropping connection(mind you, this is wired) from the controller which resulted in wipes.

2. It DOES, but for some reason the game refuses to save the vibration setting. And by "does" I mean my controller rumbles when enabling the setting. I haven't noticed it otherwise.

Don't use Motionjoy. I used that until I realized it was casing my PC to BSOD. I use scpserver like Phire now, but it's not as user friendly.

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Originally Posted by Phireblast

1. Neither. I use scpserver. Those two other programs kept dropping connection(mind you, this is wired) from the controller which resulted in wipes.

2. It DOES, but for some reason the game refuses to save the vibration setting. And by "does" I mean my controller rumbles when enabling the setting. I haven't noticed it otherwise.

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So it doesn't actually work when you fish or take damage?

I would recommend InputMapper for PS4 controller. The installer would be all you need. You won't need the xbox controller driver or anything else, unlike some of the other ps4 controller softwares.

It's easy to use and you can customise everything, including the colour indicator and there is an advanced macro builder.

https://inputmapper.com/

And yes, the vibration works pretty reliably.

I use SCP server. It's really easy.

If you have bluetooth on your computer you can do it wirelessly even.

Using DS4 Tool. Which is in fact just a wrapper to SCP.

i use PS4 controller on the PC natively. though you have to go and customize the CFG file in your documents for it... the PS4 controller is native plug and play. what it does not do is set the buttons in the proper positions. so you have to go into the CFG and look for every line for the Alias.

so when you open it in notepad look for the <game_pad settings> and find Alias.

copy this line and replace the whole string line.

Alias {90,91,88,89,41,40,32,33,73,72,48,49,3,2,1,0,4,6,10,5,7,11,9,8}

after that. turn off what you used before and the PS4 controller will be native plug and play.

sadly if you connect any other controller or software to change button layout it will reset.

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Originally Posted by dementiondrive

i use PS4 controller on the PC natively. though you have to go and customize the CFG file in your documents for it... the PS4 controller is native plug and play. what it does not do is set the buttons in the proper positions. so you have to go into the CFG and look for every line for the Alias.

so when you open it in notepad look for the <game_pad settings> and find Alias.

copy this line and replace the whole string line.

Alias {90,91,88,89,41,40,32,33,73,72,48,49,3,2,1,0,4,6,10,5,7,11,9,8}

after that. turn off what you used before and the PS4 controller will be native plug and play.

sadly if you connect any other controller back to it. it resets.

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This is what I used when I played on PC didn't have to use any third party program and was able to use bluetooth for wireless gameplay also.

Thanks for the replies, went with scpserver and the vibration now works!

Only question is, do you have to run scp server when you need it to work?

yes. you need to run it every time

Download DS4Windows. It's similar to Motioninjoy but for DS4 instead of DS3.

Seem to be getting deadzones on the right analog stick using scp, anyone else had this?

I use DS4Windows and it works fine and never drops and the vibration works too.

Use SCP server its easy to use and you can even get it to work wirelessly with a Bluetooth dongle.

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Originally Posted by dementiondrive

i use PS4 controller on the PC natively. though you have to go and customize the CFG file in your documents for it... the PS4 controller is native plug and play. what it does not do is set the buttons in the proper positions. so you have to go into the CFG and look for every line for the Alias.

so when you open it in notepad look for the <game_pad settings> and find Alias.

copy this line and replace the whole string line.

Alias {90,91,88,89,41,40,32,33,73,72,48,49,3,2,1,0,4,6,10,5,7,11,9,8}

after that. turn off what you used before and the PS4 controller will be native plug and play.

sadly if you connect any other controller or software to change button layout it will reset.

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This... Not sure what this business about third party programs are. The PS4 controller is plug and play.

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Originally Posted by Phireblast

1. Neither. I use scpserver. Those two other programs kept dropping connection(mind you, this is wired) from the controller which resulted in wipes.

2. It DOES, but for some reason the game refuses to save the vibration setting. And by "does" I mean my controller rumbles when enabling the setting. I haven't noticed it otherwise.

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SCPSERVER FOR THE WINNNNNNN


And weird, the vibration works for me!

I was able to pair my ps4 controller with my PC, and it works fine, although I had to do that alias thing too (why can't ffxiv detect the controller properly? Is is because Sony never released drivers?). However, my question is there a way to keep the controller paired with my PS4 as well? The PS button used to turn it on, and of course that no longer works.

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Originally Posted by FaileExperiment

I was able to pair my ps4 controller with my PC, and it works fine, although I had to do that alias thing too (why can't ffxiv detect the controller properly? Is is because Sony never released drivers?). However, my question is there a way to keep the controller paired with my PS4 as well? The PS button used to turn it on, and of course that no longer works.

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That's an issue with Bluetooth peripherals, and it can't pair to more than one device at a time. Even if it could, then how would each know that an input was intended for them (actually that in itself is an easy fix but...)? EM signals are broadcast and everyone in range to receive gets the message, so you will have an instance of the device not knowing what to do if the both the PC and PS4 send it conflicting messages (such as shutting off).

I bought a Mayflash wireless PS3 adaptor from Amazon for 15.00 - it works perfectly fine without any clunky software to configure.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

That's an issue with Bluetooth peripherals, and it can't pair to more than one device at a time. Even if it could, then how would each know that an input was intended for them (actually that in itself is an easy fix but...)? EM signals are broadcast and everyone in range to receive gets the message, so you will have an instance of the device not knowing what to do if the both the PC and PS4 send it conflicting messages (such as shutting off).

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Yeah Xbox One controllers are the same way. Once I paired it with my computer it didn't work with the Xbox until I resynced it.

got to take into account that the DS4 controller is direct input and the game is trying to assign the button layout as a Xinput controller. that is where they are conflicting.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

This... Not sure what this business about third party programs are. The PS4 controller is plug and play.

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yeah it's plug & play, but it's functioning as a generic PC controller with messed up default mapping. FFXIV allows us to remap the buttons but some other games don't. some of them don't even support anything but X360 controller so these 3rd pt software are like a life savior to us DS4 on PC users. if you plan to use DS4 as your main PC controller you should have one of these software.

I tried scp for my ps3 controll but it never worked at all there was rlly no help to guiding it ... So i gave up finguring its just for wireless..

the SCP server/driver is not for the PS3 controller. reason you can not get it to work. it will only work for DS4 controllers.

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Originally Posted by dementiondrive

the SCP server/driver is not for the PS3 controller. reason you can not get it to work. it will only work for DS4 controllers.

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i see.. is their a better option for ps4... im so sick of motionjoy disconnect me when im in a boss /dungon

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Originally Posted by dementiondrive

the SCP server/driver is not for the PS3 controller. reason you can not get it to work. it will only work for DS4 controllers.

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lol what? I can use my PS3 controller with SCP server.

Not sure what you did, but it works for me.

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Originally Posted by SecretCrowds

I would recommend InputMapper for PS4 controller. The installer would be all you need. You won't need the xbox controller driver or anything else, unlike some of the other ps4 controller softwares.

It's easy to use and you can customise everything, including the colour indicator and there is an advanced macro builder.

https://inputmapper.com/

And yes, the vibration works pretty reliably.

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This one is the best. And it is the update of motionjoy that become DS4tool and now this of same group. If you use old one I recommend to switch to this. The bonus is that you can even use the touch to use mouse and other buttons while old program you couldn't.

PS: I used them all in order as they were updating.

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Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2

lol what? I can use my PS3 controller with SCP server.

Not sure what you did, but it works for me.

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if you got it to work. then please explain to the ones who are having trouble with it please. :)

i have not got it to work for myself. i been using DS4 tool ever since i got a DS4. so i have no reason to go back to the DS3 controller.

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Originally Posted by dementiondrive

the SCP server/driver is not for the PS3 controller. reason you can not get it to work. it will only work for DS4 controllers.

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WRONG, completely wrong, I have been using my PS3 controller with SCP server for years... In fact SCP server was created before the PS4 even was out and even works for PS2 controllers.

The only help I can provide is a link to the page which has the most information about it on:

http://emulation-general.wikia.com/w...Driver_Package

AS far as my own experience common issues I have come across are:

Making sure the Xbox 360 controller drivers are installed and up to date
Making sure you UNBLOCK all the .exe files in the SCP server folder (right click, properties, unblock) SCPmonitor, SCPpair, SCPdriver, SCPserver, SCPservice.
Trying "Force install" in installation can sometimes work.

All of the above is written in more detail on the link.

The original thread and place to download it:

http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInpu...DS2-Controller

you did not have to say it the way you did. sure i might have been mistaken and a correction would indeed to fix. though going out of the way like that was a stretch a bit. showing how i was wrong and correcting it is all that is needed. it is not the first mistake i made and won't be my last. :)

Scp works for a ds3 but I was getting deadzones on both analogues, will pick up a ds4 and try direct input. If that sucks, ds4windows seems like the next best option.

Ps4 controller as plug and play and DS4windows both work well however i still cant get vibration to work on either, does anyone else have vibration from these two methods?

Also, that alias mapping gets a few triangle cirlce X mixed up if anyone else gets that use this one;

{90,91,88,89,41,40,32,33,73,72,48,49,3,2,1,0,4,6,10,5,7,11,9,8}

Forgive my triple post but I have to say that after trying numerous applications for DS3 and DS4 controllers the best by far is InputMapper. All you need to do let windows install the drivers when you plug your controller and dongle in, then run the application and everything works straight away and you get a moderate amount of customization options.

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

Forgive my triple post but I have to say that after trying numerous applications for DS3 and DS4 controllers the best by far is InputMapper. All you need to do let windows install the drivers when you plug your controller and dongle in, then run the application and everything works straight away and you get a moderate amount of customization options.

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Glad you tried my recommendation, even though this thread was littered with SCPserver posts.

I too tried several different apps before coming across InputMapper. InputMapper is definitely better and easier to install and use than the other apps people mentioned here. One of the things that got me hooked was not needing any other driver such as the xbox driver.