Faust:
Solo tank method, can potentially alternate who tanks Faust at what stack and blow all your defensive CDs for that time period and have one tank who solely picks up adds. Doesn't really matter as long as it dies.
Oppressor:
Phase 1: Resin bombs stacked under boss or to the side, whichever. Decimate the Alarums (literally). Whoever has Prey heals themselves with SW and Thrill + Conv (unless it's the SCH obv). Veng + Thrill + Conv from the main tank before cleave (+SW after) and then a quick swap to another tank before .5 shows up.
Phase 2: Another quick swap once .5 shows up on the enemy list, making the previous MT the .5 MT and allowing optimal DPS on the original Oppressor. OTs blow all their defensive CDs on Alarums, MTs blow all their defensive CDs on Plasma + Holmgang, blah blah jump happens.
Phase 2 pt2/pt3: Swap with 2 designated OTs at the start to allow for Holmgang + all CDs on all Plasmas (so swap again if another jump happens).
Advantages:
- Pretty much never have to heal anyone except for very specific parts of the fight.
- 100% Deliverance uptime from everyone (except the SCH :<)
- Lots more healer DPS opportunities
- Probably more I haven't thought of.
Cons:
- No SMN (double virus, higher DPS), though you could go 6 WAR + 1 SMN + 1 SCH at the risk of needing to heal SMN for Prey if they get it.
- Possibly more work for the SCH since they're solo healing, but less healing overall so... maybe it evens out?
- Fairy can only heal one tank, which means the other may need to be manually healed.
- Probably more I haven't thought of.
Thoughts on this? Haven't really put too much thought into it but the idea seemed interesting. You could also go 2x healer but I feel like that'd defeat the purpose, aside from making it significantly easier to heal. Was also considering throwing 2x PLD into the mix to Cover Prey targets, but with all those WARs it wouldn't be necessary. Maybe 1 PLD incase the SCH gets it lmao.
7 WAR + 1 SCH A1S Theorycraft
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09-04-2015, 04:42 PMSpookyGhost7 WAR + 1 SCH A1S Theorycraft
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09-04-2015, 05:30 PMFreyyy
That's some real shit up there. Would love to try this out but I don't know enough good WARs on my server sadly.
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09-04-2015, 06:53 PMCGMidlander
Individual DPS would be a tad lower than normal since there is no party STR buff
No MND buff either for the SCH
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09-05-2015, 12:23 AMErit
And I had just been joking about this to an FCmate a few days ago, too...
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09-05-2015, 01:08 AMAlahra
It's wild to me that this honestly seems feasible. Awesome, but wild.
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09-05-2015, 01:41 AMSynestraCould always add maybe one DRG in the mix then(6,1,1), then they get both STR buff and Battle Litany.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGMidlander
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09-05-2015, 01:53 AMArkenne
O___O
This sounds interesting...
But I dont even know people :v -
09-05-2015, 07:24 AMSpookyGhostYeah, this is the best way to do it w/ a 6,1,1 comp. Those crit Fell Cleaves would be pretty glorious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synestra
I don't think the MND buff would be necessary for the SCH, but I also feel like any healer could work with this comp. SCH would just be the best given the fairy, Fey Wind, multiDoTing, Adlo shield, etc.
Also I guess worth noting: For the actual tank swaps you only need 4 assigned WARs. First WAR pulls, 2nd Swaps, 3rd Swaps, 1st and 4th swap after jump, 2nd and 3rd swap after next jump, etc. If using 7 WARs, you can have the first WAR sit off Alarum duty due to having just popped all his defensive CDs, but it's pretty trivial so 6,1,1 would work just as well w/ all the OT WARs picking up Alarums. -
09-05-2015, 11:21 PMRalvenom
Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should...
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09-05-2015, 11:26 PMPhoenicia
That's lots of thought. lol dang, I'd love to see this happen even if I end up going as the SCH! :p
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09-06-2015, 01:07 AMsaber_alteroh, it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralvenom
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09-06-2015, 04:55 AMTyrialShame we're on different servers, I'd love to try this out. Don't know enough good WARs here to even attempt putting this together.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpookyGhost
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09-06-2015, 05:22 AMDalvy
Definitely would like to give this a whirl some day as sch, with drg for battle litany
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09-06-2015, 05:25 AMLemuel81
I would love to see this happen. I'll be waiting for more "nerf warrior" posts.
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09-06-2015, 09:24 AMFallenWings
Me thinks other than the DRG, all warriors would rotate through all their cooldowns thus having maximum uptime on Deliverance and Mitigation skills.
For example, WAR 1 on oppressor rotates through Vengeance then Conv+Tob, War 2 Vokes and Vengeance then Conv+Tob and probably prepares for a holm zerk equil Sw and then WAR 3 rotates Vengeance then Conv+Tob. Rinse and repeat until clear. With CD timings WAR 2 will probably have to defiance unchained IB the second buster but the third holmgang will be back up etc. id imagine this would be the best mitigation route while allowing max deliverance str since the tanking tank will have mitigation up at all times lessening the damage overall. Drg will have to maybe deal with more spinning boss shenanigans but if executed well that shouldnt be the case. -
09-06-2015, 10:03 AMMetalwrath
Would like to see this happen.I remember on odin we did 4 warrior party on Wanderers palace hard mode before heavensward.Didn't seem so hard until the tank switching and dealing with doom on the last boss.But felt awesome managing that.I wish someone had taken a video of it.Took a long time and a lot of gear changing.
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09-06-2015, 02:32 PMWhiston
I was actually thinking the other day that WHM, SCH, PLD x 6 would be pretty awesome.
Tank swap every phase and have hallowed ground for every tank buster. Pretty much negates all significant healing. The rest of the cooldowns plus regen could cover all other incoming damage. -
09-06-2015, 06:01 PMFreyyyHow do you meet the enrage timer with Paladins and two healers ? Even if 100% sword oath and SCH full time DPSing... I don't think it would work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiston