Next Expansion can the City-State be the hub?

As the title says please for the next expansion make the city-state the hub, its so sad that for a expansion that revolves around Ishgard we spend more time in a little area like Idyllshire. Now I know Idyllshire is the Mor Dhona of the Ishgard region; however, that only made sense in the 2.0 areas because the city-states were beginning areas. Ishgard requires level 50 to enter.

i like having two places. i still HP in Foundation and only go to Idyllshire when i have to (same thing for Mor Dhona back in the day).

Ishgard isn't the hub? It's the capital city of the Coerthas region, it has a market board, retainer bell, and easy transportation to Coerthas Western Highlands, the Sea of Clouds, and Azys Lla. Getting to Tailfeather or Anyx Trine isn't hard to do from Coerthas either, since there is a direct chocobo flight path. Once you're at either of two cities, you can easily go into the Dravanian Hinterlands or the Churning Mists. People just idle in Idyllshire because they're silly, Ishgard is at the heart of map.

I think they spread out areas where people gather because they don't want everyone in 1 spot.

The 'hub' of a game such as this will always change to where the most 'action' will be. In 1.0 the hub was Ul'dah, 2.0 it started in Ul'dah then migrated to Mor Dhona. Now it's... well, wherever it is. Next expansion it could well find it's way back to Mor Dhona or Ul'dah. Who knows. Either way, it's going to be where the players are, which is entirely out of Square's hands.

It would be nice, but I think the goal of Mor Dhona 2.0 is so high pop servers aren't lagged to hell and back due to how many people are in one spot. Prime time in Mor Dhona used to be a problem.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Either way, it's going to be where the players are, which is entirely out of Square's hands.

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they have total control. if they don't want people there, they can take out Summoning Bells / Mail Moogles. not having a Market Board and having the Hunt Board in Ishgard already keeps people like me from staying in Idyllshire.

if they move the Red Scrips and Favor NPCs to like Tailfeather, you would disperse even more people.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

they have total control. if they don't want people there, they can take out Summoning Bells / Mail Moogles. not having a Market Board and having the Hunt Board in Ishgard already keeps people like me from staying in Idyllshire.

if they move the Red Scrips and Favor NPCs to like Tailfeather, you would disperse even more people.

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Revenant's Toll didn't always have bells yet that didn't stop people from congregating there. Idyllshire doesn't have a market board yet people still idle (heh) there all day every day. Again, players will camp where they will, Square permitting or no. As as an aside, Square added bells to Toll because players were congregating there so much.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Revenant's Toll didn't always have bells yet that didn't stop people from congregating there. Idyllshire doesn't have a market board yet people still idle (heh) there all day every day. Again, players will camp where they will, Square permitting or no. As as an aside, Square added bells to Toll because players were congregating there so much.

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there's a difference between stopping people and encouraging more people. putting the bells in Revenant's Toll put more people there, they didn't have to do that.

After the reading the original, and seeing the walk you guys took with the thought, I don't think the original post used hub in the correct sense.

I think what he was saying/asking is for the next expansion to be centered around the main city-state that we are heading to (if that is how the story line is about to work).

I believe that what he is asking for (like in 3.0) for the central point of the story and the lands to be the city-state itself. Considering how the 2.0 city-states are setup and how both the 2.0 and the start of 3.0 have gone, I understand the request.

However, I also think that about the only way this request could be made a reality is if Ala Mingo is the 4.0 City-State, and it is also the last place we actually get to.

Heavensward could not do this since we had already gotten to Coerthas and you could see Ishgard from Whitebrim Front and Stone Vigil.

I will say that what Brightshadow suggest would make for a potentially interesting story progression with the City-State being the end game map and 8 man end game dungeon.

Yeah I know that Heavensward got close with the Vault but think for a second if an entire city-state (Ul'Dah possibility with the 3.0 story progression) was itself a dungeon where you had to fight (same city-state) from the Gate of the Sultana all the way through to the market and fight up the Steps of Thal to get the Royal Prommenade for the final Boss encounter to save the Sultana?

Sounds like an ass kicking good time to me...as long as they give us plenty of Brass Blades to kick the crap out of along the way.

better that way if all the players were in the city ...ugh, better spread the playerbase btw 2 hubs

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Originally Posted by Aoxaviar

I think what he was saying/asking is for the next expansion to be centered around the main city-state that we are heading to (if that is how the story line is about to work).

I believe that what he is asking for (like in 3.0) for the central point of the story and the lands to be the city-state itself. Considering how the 2.0 city-states are setup and how both the 2.0 and the start of 3.0 have gone, I understand the request.

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wouldn't have to bring up both Idyllshire and Mor Dhona if that was true.

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Originally Posted by Aoxaviar

However, I also think that about the only way this request could be made a reality is if Ala Mingo is the 4.0 City-State, and it is also the last place we actually get to.

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or we participate in a Garlean revolution, it would be very FF12-like. Garlemald in the center, Ala Mihgo to the South and Doma to the East being places we visit first.

I like being able to walk around Ishgard.... I mean, Idyllshire is pretty and all but there are just too many people there pretty much all the time so going there is a chore.

I can understand OPs request. It might have been nice to wind up back at Ishgard at the end of the story... but wait, we're not done with 3.xx story yet are we.
Also: anyone noticed goblins are still re-building Idyllshire? I dont think that area will feel so small in the future.

Hm, I somewhat agree with this sentiment. I love Foundation and how it is a vast city compared to everything else we've seen, and I would love to see people strolling across the bridge and up and down the streets more often instead of just in The Jeweled Crozier. I love the bustling feeling of it all.

But at the same time, as someone else said, having all those people in one place might not work too well. I can only imagine what getting to a summoning bell will be like.

Housing area is king of all "AFK" places as it has all in one packet, mb, bell, vendors and ofc your FC/Personal house.

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Originally Posted by Synestra

Housing area is king of all "AFK" places as it has all in one packet, mb, bell, vendors and ofc your FC/Personal house.

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I agree! So if SE were to implement more (and affordable) housing then the rest of us can benefit

I really think people migrate to area's like Mor or Idleshire for one specific reason:

It's where all the gear upgrade NPCs are.

I think it's just easier to just hang out there while they queue and come back for quick turn in's or some jazz like that. Just my guess anyway. Summoning bells just put icing on the cake.

Remember when the Gold Saucer was the place to afk? No? Meh. xD