What's the best ratio stat/eso for healer ? And others questions.

Hi !
I'm a bit new on the forum and I'm looking for help.
I don't know how really work stat and it's bugging me.
I know that weapon damage is a huge stat and that everyone should take the weapon first.
But I want to understand.
I don't see thread like How to dragoon per second for whm so I'm a bit lost. :confused:

+2WD, +9 vita-mind, +70 piety and 92 critical hit rate and -80deter and -58 spell speed is worth 990 eso ?
How much stat gain do we have ?
How much +2 Wd is in mind ?

How much stronger my heal will be ?

I wanted to dps with my Whm but my accuracy sucks... Does critical hit a bad stat ?
And I don't like rng so in my mind Deter>Crit.

I would say that WD>Mind>piety>spell>deter>crit.

Thanks for reading my post.
Sorry for My english.

Personally i priorities mind over everything else. More mind = stronger heals.

To give a short, rough answer.
With our current gear, 1WD should give you roughly 100 more healing on Cure I from my experience.
The -80 Det will of course make it look less in this case, but you also get 9 mind to make up for that.

So WD > MND > Prefered Seconday Stat (Usually PIE and SS for WHM, but there is different playstyles out there)

Sodamachine basically covered it... I'm not sure what the exact weights are with the Heavensward stat nerfs, but generally, 1 WD is worth 7~9 MND which is worth a ton of det. So Sodamachine's stat priorities (WD, main stat, then offstat of choice) are generally the way to go.

Crit is really worth it on some classes as they get extra bonuses. On SCHs, a crit also doubles their shields (in addition to being stronger because it's a crit). BRD gets extra procs for crit hits. Stuff like that.

Det gives you a small boost but it's consistent/no RNG. SS just makes heals go out faster and now strengthens HoTs a bit.

Not going to get into which offstat is best but I'll say that for WHM, any of them are viable depending on your play style.

Thx for the answer. I know the basic, I read a lot but I didn't find enough information. So I'm here, asking you for your help. I really need more accurate data !!!
I really want to know how much my heal will be strengthen.
1Wd=7-9 Mnd= Worth XX det ? (+-100heal).
And how is the increase of damage for the hots with ss ? How is it working ?
With such detail, I'll be happy ;p

I haven't been over to the bluegartr forums recently but that's where I'd look for the hard TC data.

You can honestly ignore secondary stat... My whm has 765 Crit atm, and i dont really notice a difference, compared to 500~.

SE changed the scaling of secondaries, so they are equally worthless now, and even on melees, Det scales as 0.13~ (instead or 0.33 pre-heavensward) per Main stat.

tl;dr: Ignore secondary stat. They scale SO bad right now, that you can just blindly go for higher item level.
More WD + MND = stronger heals. End of Story. Losing 80 Det? You wont notice them. Probably 3-4 mind are already enough to counter that. Or 1 Weapon damage is also worth more than 80-100 det.

All this is correct. I don't think anyone has really figured out the skill speed on HOTS/dots yet and how well the scaling is working for us. But with very few gear options right now you just want the best weapon which is Eso weapon unless your static is downing A4S (which almost no one is doing). Regardless the Law weapon or the upgraded Law weapon is not going to beat out the Eso Weapon on almost any job and especially for WHM.

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Originally Posted by mp-please

Decided to run some tests, pretty much heal spam x50 w/o considering crits, making a average and dividing the difference between the stats to determine how much each affects healing points. This is pretty much what could be concluded.

5 det = 1 mnd
8 mnd = 1 WD

1 WD = +~39 heal points
1 mnd = +~4.7 heal points
1 det = +~0.9 heal points

With this, the average healing from swapping from hive to AF2 should increase 50 points. Meanwhile the setup i described on my previous post increases the average healing by 100 points. Obviously this doesn't take in account 2 things, crit rngeesus and limit break dmg. Crit is too random to be measured properly and LB, lol.

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This post was done to compare swapping from hive to AF2 weapon and keep hive and swap chest+hat from i190 to i200. Weapon is crap, get pants then hat/gloves, then wtv you want. Getting the weapon is more idiotic now since we're getting relic weapons in a month and a half.

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Originally Posted by NamoNanamo

Hi !
I don't see thread like How to dragoon per second for whm so I'm a bit lost. :confused:

How much stronger my heal will be ?

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Hi!

You won't notice the impact of secondary stats as much as you would for a DPS class. Heaing is all about the Mind :)

For SCH the priority is mind>crit>det = piety>ss. I only say DET and Pie are equal as it may vary depending on the fight. For example, if you are having mana issues you may want to prioritize piety over SS and Det, but if you're find managing your mana then you can just ignore piety. It all depends on where you are and your group comp.

For WHM the priority is once agian mind but secondary stats are a bit of a mix depending on who you ask. I prefer piety>det>ss>crit.

For AST I'd argue it is similiar to SCH but in mind>piety>crit>det>ss order. I think that way you get the best gear for either dirunal or nocturnal

under preasure as everyone said that "weapon damage is most important blaablaablaa you need to buy the weapon" so i bought it and i regret it so baddly
we did some testing (cure1 spam keeping regen up the whole time for 20minutes) and the difference between eso weapon and ravana weapon was basically next to 0.. regen actually (avarage amount during 20m) healed more with ravana weapon atleast on my test than with eso weapon and cure 1 healed little more with eso weapon simply because i had few more crits the avarage amount of non crit cure 1 didnt increase basically at all

so if you havent bought it i recommend to use your eso more wisely and wait for new relic.. i wish i did ,__,


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and on my opinion secondary stats (WHM) goes in this order WD -> mind -> determination -> piety -> spell speed -> crit (and personally when it comes to crit i avoid it at all costs and aim to have 0 crit on my gear.. been going with those stats since 2.0 and has always worked for me personally) even if there would be piece of gear with 60 det and 10 crit or 30 spell speed 30 piety i still would go for the ss/piety piece :'--D

and what comes to gear imo this is BiS atleast for current gear in game

head = alex
body = alex
hands = Esoterics
waist = Esoterics
legs = Esoterics
feet = alex
neck = alex
earrings = Esoterics
bracelet = alex
ring = Esoterics -> alex (crit nuuu ;_; might go for crafted for second ring)
weapon = alex

(and sorry for my amazing english grammar....)

Hmm, different point of view. I think I'll buy the leg next week, it's a secure choice. I'll continue to search for more accurate data. And a big thanks for all your answers.