Monks practice your suplex!

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

A new primal battle will be added. We’re keeping the details a secret for now, but there are some tips regarding this in the Rising event coming later, so please look forward to it!

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http://i.imgur.com/KQvDFb0.jpg

ALL ABOARD THE DOOMTRAIN!

As long as I can als Phoenix Down the doomtrain for an instant win

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

As long as I can als Phoenix Down the doomtrain for an instant win

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Phoenix Downs can't be used in combat =(

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

Phoenix Downs can't be used in combat =(

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Just for this one battle...........please

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Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl

http://i.imgur.com/KQvDFb0.jpg

ALL ABOARD THE DOOMTRAIN!

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sounds awkward...is it gonna be like Leviathan fight, where doomtrain flies around, and pops up here and there?
dunno how tanks will be able to tank....a speeding train...
or are we going to run around on the rails, across thanalan?

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Originally Posted by Radacci

sounds awkward...is it gonna be like Leviathan fight, where doomtrain flies around, and pops up here and there?
dunno how tanks will be able to tank....a speeding train...
or are we going to run around on the rails, across thanalan?

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The actual fight doesn't start unless you pass an HP check. If your main tank doesn't have enough, Doomtrain just runs them over while they stand in front of the tracks and the encounter insta-fails.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

sounds awkward...is it gonna be like Leviathan fight, where doomtrain flies around, and pops up here and there?
dunno how tanks will be able to tank....a speeding train...
or are we going to run around on the rails, across thanalan?

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I wouldn't be surprised if we're fighting something on top of it, similar in concept to Alexander.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

I wouldn't be surprised if we're fighting something on top of it, similar in concept to Alexander.

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Or inside it...!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z85_JMFPIPM

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Originally Posted by Daralii

I wouldn't be surprised if we're fighting something on top of it, similar in concept to Alexander.

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remember that all raids are circular platforms - doomtrain needs to be quite big, for there to be enough space on it, or in it.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

remember that all raids are circular platforms - doomtrain needs to be quite big, for there to be enough space on it, or in it.

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But Leviathan's was a square. Checkmate.

Serious: A big, rectangular, interior area is probably more likely than on top of it. Unless it's not moving, anyway.

Could also be a gimmeck style fight like Bismark, or we are on something moving along with Doomtrain.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

But Leviathan's was a square. Checkmate.

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cause of lore! would be awkward with a circular platform
well actually Alex Floor 1 and 2 are also rectangular, so maybe they are breaking the habit, since ppl complained about it :)

I'm going to guess that doomtrain will be like Bismarck. Either us riding next to doomtrain. Or us being on top of it.

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Originally Posted by Vydos

I'm going to guess that doomtrain will be like Bismarck. Either us riding next to doomtrain. Or us being on top of it.

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Could also be a touch of cerberus as well as the fight goes on we have to go inside and attack as well. Least that was one concept I enjoyed about the fight.

I dunno... Doomtrain just seems way too obvious (plus, there's no Primal minion). Hades, on the other hand...

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Originally Posted by Nestama

I dunno... Doomtrain just seems way too obvious (plus, there's no Primal minion). Hades, on the other hand...

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Could be that it exists in mythology somehow(hence the windup toy). That'd make it a prime(hue) target for summoning.

We could always fight it on a separate train running ahead or parallel to it I guess, it would be quite cool to have the outside area of the boss fight heavily animated.

Well I mean, there's also the "What evils would bring together two Primals, a Behemoth and a Bomb?" hint. I'd figure the SE team would be super vague with their next Primal, rather than outright (if near NPC) saying what it will be. Hades could combine things in FFIX (one being Ark), for example :o

I will channel my inner Sabin.

*flexes Lalafell Monk muscles*

Bring it.

Doomtrain was never in Final Fantasy 6 though...

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Originally Posted by Bhuni

Doomtrain was never in Final Fantasy 6 though...

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Doomtrain is a reference to the Phantom Train, which was. Autonomous, magic trains have been a recurring feature of the series.

Clockwork Doomtrain is probably going to be a Void Ark minion drop (calling it now. Void Ark quest name will probably be "The Phantom Plane").

Doomtrain in FFVIII was also known as Glasya Labolas in Japan.

Nah i bet they r just gonna make it like steps of faith.
We fight on top of the train*
A longgggg rectangle with seperate sections of the train (spawning waves of trash etc ) till we reach the end and fight the doomtrain's head etc.
this is probs the only logical choice of design SE would take if they were to feature the "whole" train.

When they said they were hinting at a new primal in the upcoming Rising event, I started screaming for Doomtrain at my FC. And now with this hint, I hope it comes true.

I want it to be a Steps of Faith battle, but rather us chasing it, it's chasing us. A horrifying battle of intense running and screaming and just general fun shenanigans for all. (Maybe he picks a random target to chase after, similar to the Big Bad Wolf event Warcraft's Karazhan?)

Either way. I am excited for Doomtrain primal; and I hope we get a click ability to suplex the train to stun it or something.

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Originally Posted by Vydos

I'm going to guess that doomtrain will be like Bismarck. Either us riding next to doomtrain. Or us being on top of it.

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Yeah, this is how I feel Doomtrain will work. Or SE could make us fight our way to shutdown Doomtrain. Like we start at the end of the last car and work our way to the front car to shut him down.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

But Leviathan's was a square. Checkmate.

Serious: A big, rectangular, interior area is probably more likely than on top of it. Unless it's not moving, anyway.

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It can have a moving background.

I want a fight more like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UkXVj2dCbg

You jump from trains to trains fighting enemies. If you don't jump off in time you fail, with many trains and many types of fights and paths.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Clockwork Doomtrain is probably going to be a Void Ark minion drop (calling it now. Void Ark quest name will probably be "The Phantom Plane").

Doomtrain in FFVIII was also known as Glasya Labolas in Japan.

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This also prettyyyyy viable lol
A doomtrain minion is pretty legit

Just to refresh because I'm not remembering it precisely, There is a train that runs between Castrums, and I think it is called Phantom train, yes?

Who on earth is going to summon Doomtrain and why?

I can see the thought process "I NEED POWER, I NEED RESPECT, I NEED SPOOKY PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION!"

Maybe it'll just be some kind of weird attempted money making scheme by Rowena, but I don't know of anyone who would be particularly interested in summoning a vehicle.

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Originally Posted by ChazNatlo

Just to refresh because I'm not remembering it precisely, There is a train that runs between Castrums, and I think it is called Phantom train, yes?

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Yes. It's Garlean transport technology.

With you right there, Basketofseals. I really don't see how Doomtrain can be a Primal in this game or why. It just makes more sense for that Clockwork comment to imply it's a drop from Void Ark... but as a Primal? The name doesn't even sound like something that sits with the others (Ifrit, Ramuh, Garuda, Bismarck, Doomtrain, Ravana, Shiva, Leviathan, Titan).

I thought that guy was referring to a new minion, to be honest... "clockwork" is what a lot of the minions are, so...

And since Primals do not drop minions of themselves...

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Yes. It's Garlean transport technology.

With you right there, Basketofseals. I really don't see how Doomtrain can be a Primal in this game or why. It just makes more sense for that Clockwork comment to imply it's a drop from Void Ark... but as a Primal? The name doesn't even sound like something that sits with the others (Ifrit, Ramuh, Garuda, Bismarck, Doomtrain, Ravana, Shiva, Leviathan, Titan).

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Except Doomtrain was also called Gashaboras (Gurasha Raborasu or Glasya Labolas) in FFVIII.

I am personally all for beating armour panelling and creepy stuff off a moving Doomtrain. And punching its face in. I'm gonna wear red for this fight.

http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2013/03/2...gif-480c55.gif

And Glasya Labolas is already in FFXIV, so they can't call Doomtrain that.

Isn't Doomtrain also a summon from FF8 too? I'm just hoping for some more FF6 gear from the new raid ^^.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

Isn't Doomtrain also a summon from FF8 too? I'm just hoping for some more FF6 gear from the new raid ^^.

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Doomtrain's a summon in 8, referencing the recurring Phantom Train that first appeared in 6.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Yes. It's Garlean transport technology.

With you right there, Basketofseals. I really don't see how Doomtrain can be a Primal in this game or why. It just makes more sense for that Clockwork comment to imply it's a drop from Void Ark... but as a Primal? The name doesn't even sound like something that sits with the others (Ifrit, Ramuh, Garuda, Bismarck, Doomtrain, Ravana, Shiva, Leviathan, Titan).

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I mean the name didn't exactly fit with the others in 8 either. Ifrit, Leviathan, Eden, Cerberus, Diabolos, D O O M T R A I N.

Well, that's because it was called Glasya Labolas (グラシャラボラス) in Japanese (it also made why it came from the Solomon Ring make sense. Glasya Labolas is mentioned in the Lesser Key of Solomon or something something). They probably called it Doomtrain for us because the name is shorter (PS1 limitations orz).