Just started recently like a week or two ago but i've noticed that alot of people like to do their own thing...when its a team game..i dont get the logic in that..if you wanted to do your own thing w/o a team then why not go wolves den..test your skill there instead of testing your skill on trying to kill 10 guys by yourself..ok enough ranting about the wolves in the team game.
Tip #1 - stay coordinated as a team ( there will be times where you will be forced to be split up due to having multiple bases), figure out where your enemies are and decide whether or not to abandon post to regroup or to let your enemies fight it out with each other. pretty much listen to group chat n watch map to see whether or not each move is best for team.
tip # 2 - avoid the fight if it isnt neccessary, there are times when two team just go at it due to some unknown hatred for each other, these are the best time to steal bases as they are the least guarded, no point joining the fight when your just chilling and raking in points ( think boss mode, why dirty your hands when you can get your opponents to take themselves out) .. also DONT FIGHT IN OPEN GROUND WITH NO BASES TO GAIN...unless of course its like 1-2 wolves lurking then ya, kill them asap.
tip # 2.5 - exemption to rule # 2 is if you are in last or second position and #1 is about to win next round, then you must, gather all forces and attack the fck outta them.
ex - #1 - should never engage unless neccessary to defend or get a node
#2 - same as above unless margin betweeen points is big then you should be fckin wit them unless fcking with them puts you down to #3 then its better to find nodes where you get # 1 n 3 to fight each other
# 3 - should be pushing as a whole group together to either get kills or let #1 n 2 fight while you steal nodes.
-since there are too many examples, lets just say use strategy depending on nodes,positions and your rank.
tip #3 - which brings me to this. dont chaseeee enemies into ttheir own territory. i know you might think its just one guyr running away..but hes running towards his group..n if you end up getting caught, you just lost your kill and pts for the team. so dont.
tip # 4- holding multiple bases is obviously a good thing right? ya it is, unless your holding onto 3 and your forces are spread evenly among them. if that is the case, it is ALWAYS better to drop one of them to regroup to the most densed allied bases.(2 at most) even if 3 are cclose, drop the one outside or prepare for incoming onslaught from both teams. EXCEPTION TO THIS IS IF BOTH TEAMS ARE FIGHTIGN FOR ONE BASE, then by all means keep all 3.
tip # 5 - MIDDLE OR BASES INBETWEEN TWO ENEMY BASES are the worst fckin positions you can be in. best strategy for this is to let the enemy/enemies attack you while you arent there trying to fight both sides. and sneakily steal the one thats attacking your mid the hardest. that way you end up surrrounding the mofo that tried to jack u.
tip # 5.5 - Being in spots where there are only one or two entrances are the BEST. think "300" and spartans, while they rush in one by one you are fckin them up. try to get yourself in those positionings. (high ground nodes, corner nodes, any nodes with 1-2 paths in)
tip # 6 - when you are outnumbered 1-3+, dont engage! cuz realistically your not fckin spartans, so dont die for no reason. even if you are highground. does not mean shit when you have 5vs 15. ABANDON THE NODE N REGROUP! (only exception is if your whole team was already on their way there because of only node)
tip # 7 - while engaged in raid battles, it is always best to take out the healers ASAP, if prolonged. the fight could take minutes which is good if you are defending, but thats only one base..and your enemy can easily have taken the other 3.
7.1 - best class to take out healers are range (mch,brd,smn) debuff the fk outta them, silence,stun,harass. the more they focus on themselves, the less time they have on focusing on their team, which is then ALOT more easy for your team to kill enemies...nin are also good for harrassing but if you get too close into enemy lines, you;l die in secs, so best b range.
tip # 8 - dont bash on the guy that speed types and ends up with sentences like "gt outa mid! thy rushn in" because he just wants to help the team win instead of losing especially with obvious strategies..(venting) which i still dont get because its still clearly understandable..i think.and dont be racist jus cuz im chinese n eng typing perfectly isnt my strong point in war games.
tip # 9 - running outta obvious tips, so il end off by saying, play as a team and you will win, divided you will fall, together you will conquer! . remember this is a war pvp game, so just getting points and killing enemies will not always win the game, use strategy accordingly to the rng of the game.
also i didnt take time to read or edit post so dont bash me on grammer, if you dont understand the concept then ask n il explain. GL HF
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08-25-2015, 03:43 PMKilluaKhanPvP tips seal rock
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08-27-2015, 06:53 AMUrthdigger
Tip #10 - Don't play as a healer. Folks will drop faster than they can be healed anyway, and healers will drop in 2 seconds from the other alliance targeting them. Go as SMN instead.
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08-27-2015, 08:28 AMHarzSnake detected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urthdigger
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08-27-2015, 08:36 AMkudokun3Then you want a PvP without Healers?! /sarcmsoffQuote:
Originally Posted by Urthdigger
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08-27-2015, 08:39 AMDomiraDoesn't happen to me. It seems like this is your experience. Healers are tanky as heck, especially AST.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urthdigger
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08-27-2015, 09:41 AMUrthdiggerMaelstrom actuallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Harz
Yes actually, any other class contributes more.Quote:
Originally Posted by kudokun3
I doubt even an AST can survive 24, or even just 8 DPS on them at once. Especially if bound and heavied. The only way a healer can survive is to avoid contact with the enemy, running away when they show up. Otherwise they get piled on and die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Domira
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08-27-2015, 09:42 AMUltimatecaliburI can't help but laugh at this "tip" and how wrong it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urthdigger
Nope, he's Mael and less than Rank 30 at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harz
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08-27-2015, 12:13 PMUltimatecaliburUnless a healer is the only one standing by an open access tomelith, that is a very unlikely occurrence save when Aether Adders deploy multiple voice chatting premade parties (which usually have a rough 2 tank 2 healer 4 dps set up from what I've seen).Quote:
Originally Posted by Urthdigger
If you are not facing a voice organized premade, a 2 tank/2 healer/4 dps party is very tough to break and/or kill. -
08-27-2015, 04:16 PMSirtimid
Stack vitality if you are a healer.
As a scholar if you have 12 k hp and access to 9 lustrates the only way for you to be killed is if you get stun locked by a Paladin or get melee limit broke spammed. -
08-27-2015, 05:35 PMGuesswhat
Another tip that very few people seems to grasp: If your team gets 3 or 4 tomeliths, your GC will most likely be sandwiched. In these cases I find that most players think that it is possible to defend all nodes. Which is false unless the opposing GCs are total noobs.
Yesterday we had this happen in 5 or 6 matches, and the same thing happened each time: We got 3 tomeliths in relative close proximity. Me and some others tells the group to gather at 1 to avoid sandwich. Of course most of the team ignores this and tries to defend all nodes, resulting in us losing 100+pts due to massive pincer. 1 match we went from solid lead to 3rd. Had 500+ pts, went down to 300 in the space of 3 mins or less.
Even when holding 2 nodes you may want to focus defending 1. By "defending" here I mean attacking attackers, which is the best form of defense.
Don't be greedy; use your brain. -
09-01-2015, 12:57 AMTouchandFeel
My little addition, although I doubt any of the players we want to see these even read the forums.
Tip:
Most of the time it is not worth it to push on or defend a node that is really low (around 20% for pushing on or 15% for defending seems to be the general "don't bother" percents in my experience.)
If pushing to capture, by the time you do maybe capture it you will gain almost nothing because the node is pretty much empty and you run the risk of losing more point than you gain due to deaths while trying to capture it.
If defending, many times the points lost trying to defend a node that is almost empty is greater than the last bit of points gained from the node. Doubly so if it is a node in a bad position, such as being sandwiched.
So basically, in my experience I have found it much more strategically advantageous to not push on or to just abandon a very low node and just regroup and prepare to move on and capture the new nodes that will be spawning.
P.S. there are of course acceptions to this and players should strive to read the situation on the battlefield and adjust accordingly. -
09-01-2015, 03:34 AMJinglybell
Just want to add this 2bs=1 S rank tomelith , so dont abandon smaller close together points unless they're at like 20%> (unless it obviously looks like you're out matched or getting sandwiched so its not worth it). Just had one raging "general" shout insults when most of the alliance didn't leave our two b's that were next to each-other to attack an A with a near full alliance guarding it.
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09-01-2015, 08:49 AMBeckett
Don't go for a Tomelith on the other side of the map that is 50% or less unless you know for a fact that there are no/very few defenders there. Even if your entire alliance goes to capture it, by the time you get to the tomelith if you have to face any real opposition, you won't be able to capture it before it completely runs out of data. All you will accomplish is getting your team into a protracted battle with one of the enemy teams over a point that is now empty, leaving the third team free to capture new tomeliths.
Kill the healers! In Seize, this is only really important if your against a pre-made, but if you're attacking a target (even a high priority Battle High target) and they just aren't going down, then you need to shift your attention to the healers ASAP. No matter how many bodies you throw at an enemy, if their healers are on point and alive, then you'll never beat them. -
09-01-2015, 09:11 AMGuesswhat
(Gather together)
Seriously, I don't know how many matches we've lost because people chase and scatter all over the place. -
09-01-2015, 07:38 PMStupiduglytaru
Monks one iim punch scholars and summoners, I can't stress how easy it is to completely shut these these jobs down by removing their aetherstacks.
As a smn I have yet to ever have a monk do this to me, just leaving me free to blow your whole alliance up.
As a monk I always do this, its hilarious to see a charging smn sprinting our direction, then panic and try to escape with their tail between their legs...