What is your BLM rotation?

Hi all,

As the title says, what is your BLM rotation?

I'm not wanting a discussion on what we all think is the best rotation. I think Aikaals thread does that.

I'm more interested to see what variations people have due to gear, experience, etc. I figure that someone is likely doing something different and I can learn from that to be a better BLM and have better DPS (On PS4 so can't parse :()

Basically, post your rotation and if available, your parse from a dummy or a fight.

I'm currently using:

Open: QS>SC>LL>F3>ENO>F1>RS/Pot>F4>F4>F4>FS>Convert>F4>F4>F4>B3
Std: T1(proc)>B4>F3>F4>F4>F1>F4>F4>B3

I use T1 before B4 due to time left on Eno at that stage for me, one of the reasons I'm interested to see other rotations.

I have only been able to hit above 1250 once on faust in A1S (with food+pot, plus lucky TC and crits, normally avg just under 1100 on him) and know that I should/can be doing better. (FC mate was parsing our static run)

Hello! I assume you mean rotations for end game content/raids. If that's the case my rotation is similar to yours.

QS-LL-ShC-F3-Eno-F1-RS-INT pot-F4-F4-F4-F4(if SCH is in party)-FS-Convert-F4-F4-F4-B3(Tranpose if no SCH)-T1-(SwC depending on Eno timer)B4

Then continue on to do the regular F4-F4-F1-F4-F4-B3-T1-B4.

Obviously, depending on what stage of a fight I'm in, sometimes I do prefer to do the old 2.xx rotation once or twice just because I know a lot of movement is coming. If I feel comfortable I may use Enochian and throw a F4-F1-F4 sort of deal despite needed movement.

What do you do for your AoE rotation? I ran an expert the other day and was told to 'get gud' because I don't use Ley Lines too often during trash pulls. My reason for this is because if leaves an awkward no DPS part while you wait for tranpose. So like If I had Leylines up, I'd Enochian for the damage boost then F3-F2-F2-F2-Flare-Convert-SwC-Flare-Tranpose-F3-F2-F2-Flare....and then comes the problem. Because of the Sp.S boost from Leylines I finish Flare before Tranpose is off CD. Granted it's only like 2-3 seconds but still.

:/ I don't think I need to 'get gud' I just don't like down time for DPS >_>

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Originally Posted by Aurelle_Delacroix

Hello! I assume you mean rotations for end game content/raids.

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Yes! Sorry, forgot to state that bit :)

I didn't know that you could get 7 F4 with a SCH in the party! That's really good to know. Thank you!

It's a tight rotation...like really tight. You need to be on point with your spell casting and pray to the MMO gods that there is no lag. The more comfortable route is the 6 F4s but hell, that's what end game raid is all about right? Making yourself as uncomfortable as possible while trying to shell out as much DPS xD.

Six F4s leaves you with around ~300 mp for B3 in the opener with 264 piety. How are you getting the seventh?

You can't get 7 Fire IVs without AST.

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^That's my rotation.

I'm not very good at this game.

I personally do things a lot different, mostly cause I'm more comfortable with my opener and the way I use my binds.

Opener: 5 seconds before pull - precast Sharp + Quelling > Fire I > LL > Firestarter proc > enochian + RS > Fire IV > pot > Fire IV > Fire I > Fire IVx2 > Swift + Flare > Convert > Fire IV > Blizz 3 > T1 > Blizz 4.

So I know this isn't as potent by doing 5 F4s + Flare as opposed to 6 F4s. But the opener had more freedom and it's more forgiving especially on fights where you'll have to move during your opener.

As far as my numbers......with bard, monk, and ninja in my static, last week I parsed 1420 on Faust. I was i190 when I did this. The parse was higher but the 1420 was to Faust alone. Only hit 1 add with the opening Flare. This week, at i193, I parsed 1492 on Faust. Same comp.

Mines similar as both posted above. With a few exceptions. I start off with thunder then follow rotation above. But I don't use sharpcast with fire right away. If thunder procs off first cast, which tends to be when im about to cast blizzard, I use sharpcast, then hit thunder proc, then thunder will proc again which I use to lengthen thunder. Then it might proc again to lengthen again. To increase dot without downtime during enochian to recast it. Ill also keep up rotation, using blizzard when enochian is down to about 5-6. Usually by the time im enochian wears off, I can cast thunder again, and enochian is back up to go again. Is it the best rotation? Probably not. .. but im always casting f4/b4... with thunder dot here n there.

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Originally Posted by Aurelle_Delacroix

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Im unfamiliar with the problem your having with leylines. I generally cast it on trash pulls if its available and haven't noticed having to wait for transpose (maybe I just dont aoe as often so dont remember). Aoe rotation seems solid. Im not an expert so take my advice with a grain of salt, but depending on the pull, sometimes ill sharpcast thunder and thundercloud 3 another mob before going into my aoe rotation. Most of the time by the time I finish off a flare I have a thundercloud proc waiting to be thrown onto another mob. If I dont have convert I like to throw in tc after transpose so I dont feel like I'm just standing there. Is this good or am I wasting potency?

Op I'm in same boat. Opener is the one most are using. I'd focus more on what your doing during the other rotations to improve dps. Atleast thats what I'm trying. Good luck on some solid responses

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Originally Posted by Underlord

If thunder procs off first cast, which tends to be when im about to cast blizzard, I use sharpcast, then hit thunder proc, then thunder will proc again which I use to lengthen thunder. Then it might proc again to lengthen again. To increase dot without downtime during enochian to recast it.

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Maybe I misunderstood, but you don't really want to be using thundecloud procs whenever they come up. It depends on the time left on thunder. Thundercloud is more potent than Fire IV, but only if it's allowed to tick near its full duration. Don't remember the exact time at the moment. But doing something like TC proc > Fire IV > Fire 1 > TC proc would be a dps loss unless you are using the second TC on a different mob. As a general rule, 1 TC per Astral Fire phase unless it's like maybe at the very beginning, and very end.

My core rotation is simply: Blizzard III > Thunder 1 > Enochian > Fire III > RS > Fire IV x2 > Fire > Fire IV x2 > (Thundercloud/Firestarter Proc if any) > Blizzard III > Blizzard IV

Depending on movement I have to adjust my rotation. If it looks like I will not be able to get off a Fire IV for the second time, I use fire 1 earlier to keep Astral Fire III up.

I strongly feel that doing any casting before my core rotation is a waste of time that I could be using to cast Fire IVs. So basically, I go straight the point. I have not created a "Straight to the point" opener yet.

Prolly worth noting that BLM currently has one of those rotations that are heavily influenced by what happens during a fight and how prepared you really are for things to go wrong.

What you should do instead of blindly following ability chains others recommended is learning what each ability really does and how you can use some of them in a creative way once things do not go as planned. One example among many, of course Swiftcast and Sharpcast are best used for DPS soon as they are up, but depending on situation you could just as well use them to keep up vital buffs that would otherwise fall off, causing you a more significant DPS loss. And that is something you best learn by playing yourself and experimenting a bit. You'll eventually come to the same conclusion as most guides out there, but you understood it on a fundamentally different level. One that allows you to actually play the class and not just blindly follow the instructions of others without knowing why you do that.

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Originally Posted by Garotte14

Maybe I misunderstood, but you don't really want to be using thundecloud procs whenever they come up. It depends on the time left on thunder. Thundercloud is more potent than Fire IV, but only if it's allowed to tick near its full duration. Don't remember the exact time at the moment. But doing something like TC proc > Fire IV > Fire 1 > TC proc would be a dps loss unless you are using the second TC on a different mob. As a general rule, 1 TC per Astral Fire phase unless it's like maybe at the very beginning, and very end.

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Yea sorry should of clarified that. Ill use thunder proc on one mob, then other proc from swiftcast on a differ mob. Then if proc comes again I recast on 1st mob to lengthen it.

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Originally Posted by Aurelle_Delacroix

What do you do for your AoE rotation? I ran an expert the other day and was told to 'get gud' because I don't use Ley Lines too often during trash pulls.

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Sorry! didn't see this question originally ^^

For my AOE, pretty std really, although I will use LL if up (but not too fussed if I don't have it on)

I use F3 > F2x3 > Flare > Convert > SwiftFlare > Transpose > F3 > (F2 if tick accommodates) Flare > Repeat from Transpose
For those fantastic times where we end up with 2 BLM's, I'll single target and they will AOE or vice versa.

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Originally Posted by Twilite

My core rotation is simply: Blizzard III > Thunder 1 > Enochian > Fire III > RS > Fire IV x2 > Fire > Fire IV x2 > (Thundercloud/Firestarter Proc if any) > Blizzard III > Blizzard IV

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was using this opener originally and then moved to Aikaals one but added a T1 after/before (Eno timer) the first B4. It has seemed to increase my DPS on Faust, but that could have just been lucky crits.

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Originally Posted by Egnasya

Prolly worth noting that BLM currently has one of those rotations that are heavily influenced by what happens during a fight and how prepared you really are for things to go wrong.

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Agree! I am finding now that I am able to prepare and be ready for certain phases of runs (raid or dungeon). More runs seems to = better output. Even Neverreap isn't that bad now (that last boss though.. ugh)

Thanks everyone for your tips :) One big change I have made has been with my Thunder Proc's, I am making much better use of it now than I was previously. I am still learning and getting better each time I play of course, but it helps to understand what other people are doing and seeing if that works for me. :D

For me

LL>f3>enochain>Rs>F4>Swiftcast>F4>sharpcast>f1>f4>f4>f3 proc>convert>f4>F4>b3>b4>t1 :)

But I also put 4points into piety to be able to get my B3 in..