From a healing standpoint...

It's really frustrating and annoying for me, as a healer, when I burn a stack of aetherflow to use Indomitability after a raid wide aoe only to see that the BLM and the BRD standing in opposite corners of the battlefield didn't get healed. Why some of y'all think it's always safer to stand at MAX range to DPS during fights like that of Vault or Titan HM (where you're constantly being bombarded with raid wide AOEs) than that of the MNK who's right up the butthole of the boss is beyond me. From a mained healer to you mained deeps, help us out.

When I go range DPS I tends to stand near the healer, or even at melee range (must be habit from being a monk main). Even when encounters required everyone to spread out, there is never really a need to stand far in a corner by yourself.

I've noticed the same thing and it is annoying.

As a summoner, I've gotten used to standing up close for the myriad benefits.

I just try to be courteous and stand close in because standing far out just leads to all kinds of issues.

So I hear you, little lalafel, and I concur.

Yea that burns me up popping divine seal, swift cast then aoe heals...then derp the range dps were to far and eventually die while I'm trying to slow cast as primals like Titan stomp like 5 more times >_> why you so far range!! Whyyyyy lol

As a Dragoon with Battle Litany. I feel much the same way when I try to blow BL to benefit everyone. Only in specific fights do you REALLY need to spread out that far.

Sorry, I'm shy.

*Walks over to BLM to use Helios* *misses OT with helios* *walks to OT to use helios* *misses BLM with helios* *cries*

When I'm playing my scholar i have the same problem. However i feel like it is more a problem with the range of the spell and less about dps standing away from each other.

I do get frustrated. That said, I'll make the effort to go into the middle of my team to cast aoe heals. if it heals you, ok good, if it does not, I hope my next physick will keep you alive. Also, there are some occasions where they will be inevitably be away from you. Vault last boss due to chains and A4 normal due to debuff on you. My job is to keep the team alive, even if you are unknowingly making my job harder, i'll do my job.

On another note, healing dungeons is still not so bad compared to healing in seal rock. God bless healing in seal rock.

I find myself yelling at ranged dps all the time as a SCH or AST because they for some God forsaken reason think it's cool to hang out so far away. It's worse as AST cuz helios has such crap range

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Originally Posted by kupokage

It's really frustrating and annoying for me, as a healer, when I burn a stack of aetherflow to use Indomitability after a raid wide aoe only to see that the BLM and the BRD standing in opposite corners of the battlefield didn't get healed. Why some of y'all think it's always safer to stand at MAX range to DPS during fights like that of Vault or Titan HM (where you're constantly being bombarded with raid wide AOEs) than that of the MNK who's right up the butthole of the boss is beyond me. From a mained healer to you mained deeps, help us out.

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Shall we discuss about the annoying habit of healers standing behind bosses like they are melee, messing up mechanics?

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Originally Posted by Lucael_Shikaree

Shall we discuss about the annoying habit of healers standing behind bosses like they are melee, messing up mechanics?

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What? Standing behing bosses is not a bad thing per se.

Btw I usually don't heal the antisocial dps that loves to stand all alone in a corner. Selene will do it if she has nothing better to do. That shy BLM will get close to you when his HP are less than 30%, trust me.

If you've ever tank'd, I know you've wished there were things your DPSs would do to help ya out. Chances are your tank, as a DPS, wished the same from you. Like wise with the relationship between healers n DPSs. As an example... Me personally, as a healer, have never a seen a PuG party member who has stunned/bound a mob who was gunning straight for me. Something I do all the time as a PLD or BRD when I see a loose mob running towards my healer.

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Originally Posted by Lucael_Shikaree

Shall we discuss about the annoying habit of healers standing behind bosses like they are melee, messing up mechanics?

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WHICH mechanics can be mess up by the healer standing with melee DPS to heal the WHOLE group ?
Find one !
You won't say Titan Ex, Ifrit Ex is kind of an exception because of the fire bomb on healer

During the 2.X progress and end game content where I played as SMN/BLM, I was standing and fighting with all the melee DPS. The MNK/NIN and DRG of my static were always laughing at me, but my healer were loving it but complain about our unfunny BRD that was running far from the group and telling me how I was suppose to DPS from far away as a ranged DPS.

Now on 3.X content, I switch to SCH... and I feel my previous healer problem...
having this BRD running far away from me, my fairy or aoe heal kind of piss me off !
and I get the same from BLM >x<
WHY are ranged DPS forced to run away when massive aoe is coming... How I am suppose to heal them w_w
burning a lustrate and possibly kill the tank ? naaaah

as a great healer once said !

"The Healer’s Motto:
There’s a time to take damage,
There’s a time to deal it,
There’s a time to ignore all else
and do your best to heal it
Then there’s a time to laugh while they all BURN"

let's thanks "TheHiveLeader’s Guide to Healing in MMOs" for that

Usually I'm standing in the back because I was standing as close as I could to the boss without pulling. Then precast my opener. Then I'm kinda stuck there til a mechanic forces me to move or there's a boss jump phase. I'll usually try to get closer to the healer when I have time, but there are a lot of mechanics that force you to spread out; when those happen it's better for us ranged to go back so the melee and OT have room to work with each other. Then if we wanna move back up we have to sacrifice dps.

tldr; I'll try and get close, but not if I lose dps over it (unless I'll literally die, but manawall/ward exist)

The more distance I put between you and my ley lines, the less likely you are to walk over and park yourself on it.

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

As a Dragoon with Battle Litany. I feel much the same way when I try to blow BL to benefit everyone. Only in specific fights do you REALLY need to spread out that far.

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With ranged in your party, even though it's not the optimal rotation, precasting Battle Litany as you are walking towards the boss/just before you Elusive Jump to them just to make sure you hit everyone.

As for the topic at hand, whenever I play ranged (read: rarely) I often stand about 1-1.5 damaging-AOEs away from the healer, usually in between the DPS and the healer, off to the side. That way I get hit with good buffs/AOEs and if targeted with an enemy AOE, no one but me has to move.

While we're having this inter-role heart to heart:
Healers, for the love of the 12, stop sprinting around the perimeter of the arena like Linford Christie in Sonic the Hedgehog shoes because you have adds attacking you that do like 2 DPS to you, while you presumably shriek in horror irl. Stand the hell still so we can kill them / grab them like we're supposed to? :P