Is It Me OR Is There Been A Graphical Update

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10-05-2011, 10:10 AM
Armok

Is It Me OR Is There Been A Graphical Update

Word of warning, it may just be me... BUT... are the graphics slightly better, lit better or something?

Don't know why but my graphics seem clearer and also better at further distances.
10-05-2011, 10:13 AM
Fear

Seems slightly more optimized to me, also the FPS limiter is nice for towns, when I go AFK or just wait for a shout with FPS limited to 30 my Graphics card sits in the 50's :D w00t my room no longer feels like an oven while i wait
10-05-2011, 10:19 AM
Wolfie

Maybe. I've gotten hit with two DX9 crashes so far, so they did something.
10-05-2011, 10:23 AM
Fear

I got hit with a crash on the character select screen once but nothing since
10-05-2011, 10:33 AM
Ark_mage2

Every time a new patch comes out the game feels faster and seems to run smoother. I think it has more to do with the server reset they do than it does with the graphics engine. After a few days/weeks it always goes back to normal.
10-05-2011, 09:48 PM
Jibe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ark_mage2

Every time a new patch comes out the game feels faster and seems to run smoother. I think it has more to do with the server reset they do than it does with the graphics engine. After a few days/weeks it always goes back to normal.

This.. I think this is it as well. That and placebo effect.
10-05-2011, 09:50 PM
PrettyPrincess

I don't doubt that they are slowly optimizing everything. I mean, it makes sense. Even the UI is more responsive, it's amazing.
10-05-2011, 09:52 PM
Eekiki

Hasn't crashed on me yet. I have a GTX580 graphics card, and it always ran good before, but running it in 30fps mode is smoooth. So glad they added this option.
10-05-2011, 09:56 PM
Agoven

They been working to make icons sharper. There's better shading going on. They added some lighting enhancements. If you hadn't heard sure there is a slew of people with crashing problems...mostly due to graphical issues seem ATI isolated. Turning off a few in-game settings fixes this issue.
10-05-2011, 10:03 PM
Jibe

I really wish they could do something about the major screen tearing if you are not using vsync. Kind of forces you to enable vsync with a third party tool or suffer horrible tearing. Performance is then degraded. The information have yet to try out the new frame limiter though. Wonder if that will help.
10-05-2011, 10:10 PM
Eekiki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jibe

I really wish they could do something about the major screen tearing if you are not using vsync. Kind of forces you to enable vsync with a third party tool or suffer horrible tearing. Performance is then degraded. The information have yet to try out the new frame limiter though. Wonder if that will help.

It will. Even though I get no screen tearing and a solid framerate at 60fps, I still play in 30fps mode because everything runs so much smoother.
10-05-2011, 10:27 PM
Betelgeuzah

It's you. Placebo etc.
10-05-2011, 10:38 PM
Armok

Would make sense if you knew how the Placebo Effect works.

For that to work, you have to go into something "expecting" and "truly believing" said outcome is going to happen.

Which I didn't. Graphics weren't on my mind at all until I saw them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

It's you. Placebo etc.
10-05-2011, 10:46 PM
Betelgeuzah

I don't care. Nothing has changed.
10-05-2011, 10:58 PM
Jibe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eekiki

It will. Even though I get no screen tearing and a solid framerate at 60fps, I still play in 30fps mode because everything runs so much smoother.

Wow you were right. I game runs awesome with the frame limiter turned on. I have all my graphics turned to max too except general drawing quality. This is just great.
10-05-2011, 11:25 PM
GabbaGabba

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

I don't care. Nothing has changed.

sucks for u
10-06-2011, 12:09 AM
Petdo

I'm experience random crash on the field and in the town..
I donno what happen ( maybe because i was messing with their dat before? .. lol )
Try to restore all dat to original state but the crash still the same.
my GPU is GTX460

Try on my notebook ( super low graphic setup ) no crash at all ==' i'm confuse
10-06-2011, 12:28 AM
lenethlockheed

idk ive never had a problem befor the patch. now i crash everytime i use the map,change my gear,or use my items and ive tryed everything ive turned the graphics down all the way ive tryed the 30fps idk it sucks
10-06-2011, 01:41 AM
Teknoman

There were lighting enhancements added in 1.18, dunno about 19.
10-06-2011, 01:44 AM
Eekiki

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petdo

I'm experience random crash on the field and in the town..
I donno what happen ( maybe because i was messing with their dat before? .. lol )

I believe you've pinpointed your problem. >.<

Restoring the DATs you modded is restoring them to their pre-patch state. You may need to bite the bullet and reinstall from scratch.
10-06-2011, 01:56 AM
Reinheart

I guess my random crash might be related to the ones people posting here, went to call my retainer and adv guild in Limsa and it crashed, tried again and it crashed again. HD5770 with newest driver avail here.
10-06-2011, 02:12 AM
Travesty

Something has definitely been tweaked with the graphics. I noticed it immediately upon logging in. I dunno if it's the fluidity, overall sharpness, lighting, or what, but there's some slight difference.
10-06-2011, 02:20 AM
Fear

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reinheart

I guess my random crash might be related to the ones people posting here, went to call my retainer and adv guild in Limsa and it crashed, tried again and it crashed again. HD5770 with newest driver avail here.

CCC 11.9 just came out you have that installed?

I had 1 crash only none since then, Radeon HD6950 here
10-06-2011, 02:22 AM
Eekiki

Also try installing the latest beta drivers, if they're available.
10-06-2011, 02:22 AM
PrettyPrincess

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teknoman

There were lighting enhancements added in 1.18, dunno about 19.

OMG SO I AM NOT CRAZY I KNEW SOMETHING WAS DIFFERENT
10-06-2011, 02:32 AM
Reinheart

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fear

CCC 11.9 just came out you have that installed?

I had 1 crash only none since then, Radeon HD6950 here

Dunno what version I have steam and it auto updated my driver which they updated i think was 2 days ago; I'll check when I get home.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eekiki

Also try installing the latest beta drivers, if they're available.

/nod good idea

Thanks :D
10-06-2011, 08:50 AM
VydarrTyr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armok

Word of warning, it may just be me... BUT... are the graphics slightly better, lit better or something?

Don't know why but my graphics seem clearer and also better at further distances.

I had literally the same reaction. "Wait. Does the lighting look better? I don't know, maybe softer or something? And the water on Iron Lake looks different. Is it just reflection from a different sky, or maybe I'm just remembering wrong?"

So, yes, I think it's been changed slightly. And for the better, in my opinion. (Of course, I haven't had any crashes ... yet ... so others may feel differently. :) )
10-06-2011, 08:53 AM
Frein

Today I crashed for the first time since 1.17 (or so) but only once. As far as graphics and performance goes, I notice no difference.
10-06-2011, 10:22 AM
VeranRamaden

the river in Gridania looked better to me. Limsa water as well.
AND DEF THE LIGHTING.
Sunrise in Limsa looked very very amazing.
Colors/lighting/water ftw!
10-06-2011, 10:40 AM
Mushy

team makes changes: everyone whines

team does nothing: oh my gosh it looks better, the lighting, the colors, THE WATER MAN LOOK AT THE WATER!

team scratches head, continuing not to fix the graphics
10-06-2011, 10:52 AM
VeranRamaden

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mushy

team makes changes: everyone whines

team does nothing: oh my gosh it looks better, the lighting, the colors, THE WATER MAN LOOK AT THE WATER!

team scratches head, continuing not to fix the graphics

some of us have a keen eye for aesthetic details......others as yourself do not.
10-06-2011, 11:07 AM
Jennestia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agoven

They been working to make icons sharper. There's better shading going on. They added some lighting enhancements. If you hadn't heard sure there is a slew of people with crashing problems...mostly due to graphical issues seem ATI isolated. Turning off a few in-game settings fixes this issue.

On both of my PCs with ATI's I've yet to crash. There does indeed seem to be some improvements, or rather optimizations given the 30/60 FPS switch -- This means they have been actually working on the engine because this and last patch were paying close attention to the core of the game as well as content relation.
10-06-2011, 12:00 PM
Mushy

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeranRamaden

some of us have a keen eye for aesthetic details......others as yourself do not.

and you all have have screenshots from the same machines/settings to back it up? OHNOWAIT ITSJUSTAHUNCH
10-06-2011, 12:56 PM
VydarrTyr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mushy

and you all have have screenshots from the same machines/settings to back it up? OHNOWAIT ITSJUSTAHUNCH

Do you have screenshots showing there haven't been any changes?

"OHNOWAIT ITSJUSTAHUNCH"
10-06-2011, 01:52 PM
VeranRamaden

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mushy

and you all have have screenshots from the same machines/settings to back it up? OHNOWAIT ITSJUSTAHUNCH

your name is Mushy because my giant Elezen foot stomped on your tiny Lalafell head.
10-06-2011, 02:04 PM
Bahn

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeranRamaden

your name is Mushy because my giant Elezen foot stomped on your tiny Lalafell head.

Had to +1 this statement, made me genuinely laugh.

I also noticed the very slight improved performance post 1.19 patch. However I had my NVIDIA driver crash on me today and FFXIV crash on me again after using the Return command to go back to Uldah. Not sure if they're related in any way to the patch, but it's the first time it's crashed since 1.17 for me.
10-06-2011, 02:05 PM
El-Neko

Looks the same to be but again im not playing on the highest on my crappy overclocked 8400 GS :s.
10-06-2011, 02:34 PM
VeranRamaden

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bahn

Had to +1 this statement, made me genuinely laugh.

Thank you ^^
10-06-2011, 02:49 PM
Gramul

Whatever the case, the game has been running much much smoother for me.
10-06-2011, 04:08 PM
Jibe

I don't see a difference in the quality of the graphics but when the game is set to 30 fps it runs so very much smoother now. That is not to be denied on my machine. Only weird thing is with general drawing quality set to 9 the game fps drops to literally 1 fps when I start to teleport. The its the actual animation that is doing it.

Buttery smooth other than that, with msaa 8, all other ffconfig settings set to highest, but no ao or dof. I would say it's the frame limiter alone that is providing the improvements, and but with the whole teleport thing and other people getting crashing issues wouldn't that point to some changes to the graphics coding?

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