Divine Veil

When is it appropiate to use this ?

Can' t for the life of me get it to work right.

Either everyone is too far away, or I don't get a heal because the healer is doing other things so it wears off.

I suggest creating a macro that announces in party chat that you are using Divine Veil so it will be easier for others to know to group up near you and for the healer to trigger it.

i use it when im playing paladin for any mechanic that ppl tend to group up for aoe healing, ie: bloody fuller/pillar Ravana ex, phase transition in A4, AS! when ppl are stacking to prep for the 8x Resin puddles

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Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

I suggest creating a macro that announces in party chat that you are using Divine Veil so it will be easier for others to know to group up near you and for the healer to trigger it.

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Please don't. I hate those tanks who make macros for every skill. It might work in a static where the healer and everyone knows from the sound effect alone what's going on, but if you have to read it's often useless. Either it's not really needed because it isn't that critical, or if it is really critical/needed, the healer won't have time to read the chat. Keep those macros only for the really critical stuff, like Hallowed Ground for example.
I recently had 2 tanks in A4 who announced convalescence with a sound effect macro for gods sake!
And divine veil lasts what? 30 seconds? If it wears off because you didn't get a heal in 30 seconds it clearly wasn't necessary and thus didn't matter anyway.

Just do what repoe said, use divine veil in the right moment.

well those tanks were probably macro happy. Who in the right mind macro's Convalescence? The only skills I have macro'd are the "oh $!@#" buttons i.e Holmgang. I also include a timer to countdown how long till the effect wears off but that's it.

For Divine Veil just use it when people are relatively close or stacked for phase changes. I think the range is about the same as Flash so its pretty short.

Well it wore off because the healer was dpsing too much and had to panic heal the dps back to full health during the boss fight xD.

you can take this ability off your bars and not miss it, just another fluff ability like cover, pld got shafted this expan with the new moves

Veil is amazing. Use it between phase transitions.

Wouldn't it be useful for A1S prey mechanic where the tank is doubly taking a tank killer?

Divine Veil + C3 etc.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Wouldn't it be useful for A1S prey mechanic where the tank is doubly taking a tank killer?

Divine Veil + C3 etc.

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You mean if prey on tank? Veil doesn't work on tank only on party.

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

Wouldn't it be useful for A1S prey mechanic where the tank is doubly taking a tank killer?

Divine Veil + C3 etc.

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You mean if prey on tank? Veil doesn't work on tank only on party.

I meant doesn't work on pld * lol

I only asked when it's best to use and I got it.

Please don't turn this into another "PLD needs help thread".

I can find multiple uses for it now and have saved the party from wiping with it.

It's a tool for raids and primals.

Use it whenever the group is getting peppered by light attacks (you'll get a heal, veil everyone, and lessen the damage some) or is about to get hit by a big party-wide nuke to ease its impact (takes some coordination).

There's no loss in using it in dungeons, but most times in dungeons when other people are taking damage it's because they're making mistakes and/or it will absorb light damage and not really make a difference. Maybe best to save it as a panic button so the healer has another moment to recover if the group is smashed up.

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Originally Posted by Noira

I only asked when it's best to use and I got it.

Please don't turn this into another "PLD needs help thread".

I can find multiple uses for it now and have saved the party from wiping with it.

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Unfortunately no matter how much you'd like this to not become another thread of complaints aimed at skills like Clemency and Divine Veil, that's still going to happen.

I'm glad you got the info you were looking for, and I hope it serves your parties well in the future.

One thing to note is that the "up to 10%" in Divine Veil seems to be 10% no matter what the healing strength is. You can have a dumb black mage or something physick you and it'll trigger for the full amount. Divine Veil is good for like party busters where you know a succor is coming (Teraflare, boss jumps in A1S, all of A3S, maybe primal limit breaks, etc).

^Well that's because the 10% is based off the PLD's max HP. The japanese tooltip straight out says "10% of the Knight's HP", Knight being the Japanese name for the class.

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Originally Posted by NFaelivrin

^Well that's because the 10% is based off the PLD's max HP. The japanese tooltip straight out says "10% of the Knight's HP", Knight being the Japanese name for the class.

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Yeah, the English tooltip is a little more ambiguous. "Up to 10%" could mean that getting less than 10% is possible.

A good example of when to use Divine Veil is after the jumps of the A1 boss. Since everyone stacks during jumps, you pop Veil since your healers will be pre-casting AoE heals to heal the damage from when the bosses land. Group gets heals and barriers from Divine Veil, then move back to position.

When party needs to stack, and there is aoe dmg afterwards