GTX 580

Hello,

i just got me an SSD drive and a gtx580 (not overlocked... yet).
The SSD took care of 100% of the loading stutter issues. So that is nice.

The 580 in all HD /hardware hungry games runs fine (70-75 C, which is ok for nvidia)
at 100% load, Crysis with 16X and all put to the max. High frame rates, and ok noice.

When i start FFXIV, go out of uldah (other areas as well) my card heats up like CRAZY!!

it gets over 85C wtihout even doin anything or ppl/mobs around me.

Please fix that issue.

Thanks

Turn your General Drawing Quality down to 8 (standard) in the FFXIV config.

You won't notice the difference, and your card will run cooler (better framerate, too)

This is only speculation, but right now I believe the highest standard detail is achieved at 8. In the future (if and when SE implements DX11 support), the higher settings will do something, but right now all they do is cause your card to start screaming with no noticeable improvement in graphical detail.

Also, keep in mind that according to NVIDIA, 85-90C is still within acceptable operating temperatures.

thanks a lot Eekiki for the reply!!!
I am testing around atm, and since i had ati before im an nvidia noob.
But i think i found a solution, i kinda had too many extra options from nvidia inspector and such on. So the game had more filters on then you can notice i think :) i still have to keep in mind that it IS the best single gpu card but its still no god hehe. :)
The quality at 9 or 10 really is mostly a big performance hit, it DOES make the game even more detailed but some AA on the 8 quality and it looks just fine. And forcing a bit AO with NVIDIA (less peformance then the CP from FF) is more eye candy VS performance then the quality option imo.
But im still testing and tweaking around. especialy with the transparent textures and AA on it. Nvidia has more options then ati with that - which is cool :) but more testing needed.

Cheers

someone jacked my advice!!! lolz

^_^ It's the best I can do 'til SE adds a Steal ability to XIV.

Use MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision for the 580 and setup the software automatic fan control option to get a more aggressive fan profile, this will help a lot with your temps. My 580 never goes above 72°C in XIV ever.

since i came from ati 5870 overclocked, which kinda seems more compatible to ffxiv atm, i thought i can get a bit more eye candies on. I can only hope for further optimizations, since ffxiv performance increase is not much compared to most other games. Getting another cooling for that card soon though, since i hate loud ventilation ;),
im gonna try to work on the fan a bit as well, thanks for the info!

I have the same problem with a GTX 570 phantom model; i agree with what other ppl said about how to keep heat low, but this isn't the real problem...

The issue is that the gpu looks overstressed for the config we all apply, and there is obviously something wrong in the integration of the filterings (looks to ambient occlusion, drawing quality, shadow details, AA over 8x...), in any other games we can keep em MUCH higher with much less gpu stress.

I give to SE all the time they need, but this IS an eye candy game, so it would be a shame just to get it half-right... a great graphic should be a point of force of FFXIV and it's something that once is done don't need big refining time like adding content to the game, and what we want (at least!) here is just what we already get from almost any other game 'til now

Anyway i think now they have bigger problems to take care about Japan situation, so i'm taking it easy, just hope to see them talk about this matter in the next updates! (or a forum reply!! :) )

If I'm not mistaken, FFXIV is the single most GPU intensive game on the market. But part of that is clearly due to some sort of lack of graphic optimization or efficient drivers.

Update:

- The card cooling wasnt very well done. In fact it didnt cool the gpu properly and was barely attacked to the gpu - badbad.
- Bought me a Thermalright cooling solution.
Now i dont hear my card at all. OC to 900 and even with OC i have about -10 degrees. Without OC about 20-25 degrees less then i had with stock cooling. Worth it... at least if you have such an expensive gfx card.

Just too bad the game uses a shit load of transparent textures (that dont look nice if not supersampled lol) so that still
gives a hit to the 60 fps. One can only hope for some major graphic patches/improved bushes, less transparent textures...
not that performance hungry ambient occlusion as well :D


Im useing 8XSQ Setting from Nhancer. Was the best Performance vs EyeCandy option for me. Tested like 100 options.

My 580 never gets hotter than low 50's on full load. I'm using an Antec900 v2 case and it cools fairly well. Perhaps a new case would help!

My video card 3870 512MB is at 75-90C which is ok i play it all day when i used to play a lot without issue. My card only start to lag games with it reach 98C i talk to the company who made my card and said 90C is ok for this type of card. But i do wish SE make ffxiv better for video card some card which are 50x better then mine are going up to 90c also o.o

hello there. i posted a thread a little bit ago about the performance of my 6990. im not trying to steer away from the 580 talk to much but i got no response in my thread.

Just a quick question here. What i am gathereing from reading this thread is that it is completely normal for me to be experiencing shity performance with my 6990 with draw qualities past 8 because of poor graphical design of this game on SE's end? I had the same crappy performance when i had 3 5870's running in tri fire mode. Ive played every other game like dragon age 2 and crysis 2 with max settings and it ran very smoothly with not even a stutter but i cant say the same for this game.

i was also reading in another thread posted on here that this game uses alot of cache from the hard drives and that some people were getting there stuttering problems fixed by switching to SSD's. I have two western digital caviar black 640's at 64MB cache in a raid 0 config. i couldn't possibly think that that is my issue.

i thank you for your time and hope to hear some responses from you about this situation/issue i still continue to have and hopefully SE reads this and we can get some positive feedback from them.

Well, I had my GTX460 running at all max settings save no Occlusion or AA, and FF14 ran borderline too-hot. I dropped my General Draw Quality form 10 to 8, and enabled 16x QCSAA, not only does it look better, but I run almost a full 10c cooler than before. As for caching, yes, this game does seem to do a lot of it. Lowering the draw quality fixed a large % of that for me, to the point where I barely notice it even when I first log in. Though I do not have an SSD, I have a beast of a haitachi HDD, and I seem to have less problems than other people in otherwise nearly identical setups to me.

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Originally Posted by Muegen

reading in another thread posted on here that this game uses alot of cache from the hard drives and that some people were getting there stuttering problems fixed by switching to SSD's. I have two western digital caviar black 640's at 64MB cache in a raid 0 config. i couldn't possibly think that that is my issue.

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This game certainly chews up GPUs that are a few gen old, core2 duos, and even while I ran that setup a SSD gave me an amazing performance increase over my Caviar Blacks.

XIV is a ton of very small files, which isn't optimal for an SSD, and yet I still noticed a world of difference.