Healer should be allowed to hardlock onto both an ally and enemy simultaneously.

Only gotten to lvl 33 so far and playing healer feels so tedious in fights where i can heal and attack without any issues. Mainly because i either have to repeatedly reselect the tank or a monster only because i can't lock onto both simultaneously.

And if there are any skills that can target both friend of foe, they could make it so that it priotized friends, or make some sort of toggle like targeting foe if cleric stance is up.

Of course healers should mainly heal, but at the lower levels it's practically a one button job while dozing of on the keyboard.

You sort of can with <tt> macros. Just use those for your damage skills and you'll attack your target's target instead.

I use "mouseover" macros for all my heals, <mo> is the command. What I like to do is Target the boss so I can see its cast bar. Focus target the tank i'm healing (Shift+T). I can dps the target, switch in and out of cleric stance, and heal the party without losing my current target. I just hover my mouse over whomever i wish to heal and mash the macro w/o switching targets. I love it!

Example: /ac "Cure" <mo>

that's what focus target is for

Maybe what he's suggesting is a more customizable version of what we have now, where if he's targetting an enemy, if he casts a heal instead of it healing himself, it would go onto his focus target or something along those lines.

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Originally Posted by Litner

Maybe what he's suggesting is a more customizable version of what we have now, where if he's targetting an enemy, if he casts a heal instead of it healing himself, it would go onto his focus target or something along those lines.

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I used to have a setup in wow kinda like this. If I had an ally targeted one keybind would heal. If an enemy was targeted that same keybing would cast loghtning bolt. It was pretty awesome. I miss it :(

I would love to have context sensitive hotbars for healing and dps.

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Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi

I used to have a setup in wow kinda like this. If I had an ally targeted one keybind would heal. If an enemy was targeted that same keybing would cast loghtning bolt. It was pretty awesome. I miss it :(

I would love to have context sensitive hotbars for healing and dps.

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You can do the same thing with macros, I'm suggesting an option that would be customized in an options menu.

I just focus target the boss so I can switch to it easily if need be (along with seeing what its casting) and use party frames to target friendlies with my mouse. In the case of mob packs I either tab target, or if I've already healed the tank, then it brings up all of the mobs in the threat window which lets me easily click on the lowest one there. I've never really had issues with switching targets frequently. It's just part of the job and something you get used to.

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Originally Posted by Litner

You can do the same thing with macros, I'm suggesting an option that would be customized in an options menu.

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How do you get context sensitive hotbars with macros? Also, dont macros prevent ability queueing?

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Originally Posted by Litner

Maybe what he's suggesting is a more customizable version of what we have now, where if he's targetting an enemy, if he casts a heal instead of it healing himself, it would go onto his focus target or something along those lines.

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I'm playing with gamepad so i'm to shure how it works with mouse/keyboard.

You got hardlock which is your primary target with the big healthbar, and softlock which is a temporary target. If you are hardlocked on a ally and softlock onto an enemy, you can cast either a heal that with hit the ally or an attack that will hit the enemy BUT the softlock will reset and need to be applied again for the next skill while the hardlock remains the same. Vise versa if enemy is hardlocked with the softlock on the ally being reset.

What would be nice is a player could hardlock both a friend of foe since the skills allready differnetiate which one can take what. This would make so that the healer no longer need to repeatedly softlock onto the same target for every skill used, which would make damadging and healing simultaneously a lot easier and fluid.

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Originally Posted by Muchmidget

You sort of can with <tt> macros. Just use those for your damage skills and you'll attack your target's target instead.

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Usefull although macros aren't exactly the most reliable things in this game the lack of queueing and latency issues, so it would be a whole lot better if something more fluid was coded in.

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Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi

How do you get context sensitive hotbars with macros? Also, dont macros prevent ability queueing?

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/ac "Aero" <t>
/ac "Cure" <t>

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This macro will make it so that if you're targetting an enemy, it'll cast Aero, and if you're targetting an ally, you'll cast Cure. Just be sure to turn off error messages. Also yes, macros prevent ability queuing, that's why I suggested it to be in the options menu rather than a macro thing.

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Go into any class that can cast Cure. Go find any enemy, even your own local training dummy. Try and cast Cure on it. It'll cure yourself instead. My suggestion as to what his suggestion is to change instead of healing yourself, you can change a setting in an options menu somewhere and make it heal the last person targetted or something.

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/ac "Aero" <t>
/ac "Cure" <t>

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This macro will make it so that if you're targetting an enemy, it'll cast Aero, and if you're targetting an ally, you'll cast Cure. Just be sure to turn off error messages. Also yes, macros prevent ability queuing, that's why I suggested it to be in the options menu rather than a macro thing.

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Ah right. I get what you mean now. Thanks and I support your idea.

Agreed. TSW has this feature. Focus target helps a bit and macros can work around it but come with their own downsides.

Warhammer online did this.

It's a mixed bag of useful and pain-in-the-!@#^. On one hand, woot, damage abilities go to the enemy and healsies to the friend!

On the other, self cast while targeting an enemy often saw your quick save-my-own-ass heal going to the friend. It saves a step in some places and adds it to another. Mouseover targeting is indeed the best way to handle this.

Also maybe improved and efficient interfaces like Wow had with GRID. Amg GRID. Square, pls.

In tsw, you can have an offensive target and a defensive target, (which is you by default). It is quite a handy feature. And would make a great qol addition.

It's not hard, you'll get more used to it with experience. I play on PS4 and can easily switch targets between the boss or mobs and the tank or other players. Usually quickest way if DPSing the boss and need to cure the tank is just hitting circle to untarget, then down on the d-pad twice to move from myself at the top of the list to the tank. Just takes practice then it is super easy.

I don't really use Macro's myself but doing one like the person above suggested would work. I really only use 2, swiftcast + raise of course, and then my other is just called Stone, and it's basically

/ac "Stone II" <t>
/ac "Stone III" <t>

Yes I lose the ability to queue them but it's great for roulette as space is limited on PS4 so would be a pain having Stone III as my main DPS attack on my hot bar and then get put in a level 50 dungeon where I can't use it and would have to swap it for Stone II etc. This way it uses whichever one is highest for the dungeon I'm in. Not being able to queue them isn't even a huge issue I find as other than solo content, 99% of play is in parties and what not, where you're most likely only going to pop a couple Stone's on the enemy anyway before flipping out of CS back to healing.

/ac "Cure" <t>
/focustarget <tt> will cure your target, make your targets target your focus target.

Then for advanced macros you can
/ac "Stone" <t>
/focustarget <tt> this will allow you to dps then make your tank your focus target.


for even more advanced you can
/ac "Aero" <tt>
/focustarget <tt> This will only attack your tanks focus target with aero and making his current target your focus target.