Would it ever be possible to have something like the FFXII Zodiark battle in this game? An extreme primal with something like 100 million HP that you have the whole week to try and down? Would anyone find that interesting? I think it would be kinda neat if it saved progress then reset like other weekly raids.
Week long primal
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08-06-2015, 04:01 AMwhiskeybravoWeek long primal
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08-06-2015, 04:28 AMCanadane
Remember Absolute Virtue?
I don't quite think it could work out the same in this game. -
08-06-2015, 04:30 AMMilesSaintboroguhWhat about that other boss that a group fought for 18 hours straight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
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08-06-2015, 04:31 AMInstrumentalityPandemonium Warden?Quote:
Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh
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08-06-2015, 04:52 AMwhiskeybravo
I know neither of those references, was just thinking out loud really lol. It would be a different then what we've had so far, I just don't know if it's within the games ability to be able to do something like that without reworking everything. (being able to save a boss HP% between encounters I mean). Have like 4 chests with loot, a special mount, title, etc I think it would be a neat deal.
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08-06-2015, 04:57 AMRyuRoots
It was a stupid waste of time in FFXII and it'd be the same thing here.
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08-06-2015, 05:01 AMYumi_umi
Zzzzzz super long fate boss.
That would pretty much sum it up.
If they made it as hard as odin ppl would cry cuz if zodiark did a final move that wiped everyone in a proximity after 18 hours of fighting.
The forums would explode from all the pissed ppl.
So no SE would never risk doing that. -
08-06-2015, 05:11 AMSubucnimorning
I think the time people would enjoy this type of thing has long passed. I remember in EQ1 waking the sleeper and people throwing themselves at it for hours trying to keep its HP going down was one of the more cool things to ever experience. Now a days though people don't have the patience to do something like that, it is just boring and a waste of time.
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08-06-2015, 05:14 AMwhiskeybravo
Ah, FFXI references. Unfortunately one of the FF games I never got to play.
IDK, boss fates don't really have mechanics, so there's room to make interesting mechanics for different phases in a long fight. And ideally you wouldn't really worry about wipes because recorded HP%.
Just "general discussion" not petitioning for anything really.. But if XI had stuff like that and it didn't work out or wasn't really embraced by the player base then it wouldn't be worth it to have it here.
People waste hours wiping or waste hours afk lol, at least you wouldn't be starting from scratch every wipe (ideally, I think)Quote:
Originally Posted by Subucnimorning
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08-06-2015, 06:21 AMAlphaSonic
I didn't find FFXII Zodiark that long. Now imagine if we had to fight FFXII Tiamat...
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08-06-2015, 06:26 AMMilesSaintboroguhYou mean Yazmat.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaSonic
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08-06-2015, 06:27 AMAyuhra
If any Primal ends up working like this it'd be....Zodiark
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08-06-2015, 06:32 AMsirDartsI wouldn't say it's about patience. It's more about different demographic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subucnimorning
Back in the day MMOs were MAINLY (and I mean like 80+%) played by young people with close to no obligations. Older people didn't really understand games much. Nowadays (yes, it's one word) that's quite different, a LOT of MMO players have jobs, families, friends, etc. outside of the game and can't just spend a week doing nothing else than play during their waking hours. -
08-06-2015, 06:32 AMMarveth
To have a constant 10+ hour fight? In an open world? No thanks.
However, let's say you have a fight split in five parts. When you finish one part you have to return another day to do the next. Manage to finish all five in a week and you get an extra bonus (besides the loot from each part).
Every part could introduce new mechanics and even be in new areas (lore wise you could be chasing down a beast).
The final battle could be a top a mountain where it is cornered.
This I could accept. Would give incentive to play and something to do between grinding. -
08-06-2015, 06:33 AMF_Maximillian
If we had something like a trial boss that we fought in phases (1 phase per day) and we would be rewarded based on how much progress was achieved or how many phases were passed that could be something cool. Like a world boss that appears at set times each day for a set time slot and people would be rewarded based on their contribution and the overall progress of the server. Might just be a colossal waste of time but if done right it could be something good.
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08-06-2015, 06:40 AMMarveth
I don't recommend open world though or thearea would be absolutely overcrowded if people knew when it would spawn.
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08-06-2015, 07:05 AMwhiskeybravoYea I wasn't thinking about open world, would have to be 8-man instance. Split into parts is what we have now basically, I'm thinking something along the lines of an endurance race but more accessible because, yes, there are very few people who can commit to one long 10-hour trial or raid. Could possibly have HP checkpoints that correspond to phases, such that you could say, spend a couple hours getting it to 80% (phase 1), take a break, go back in the next day and get to 60% (phase 2) etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marveth
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08-06-2015, 07:07 AMYurimi
does anyone remember the FFXI event in 2003 after christmas with the sparkling trents in various zones where it was a server wide effort to kill them that rewarded the outpost warps ? I imagine something like this could be fun again :) Imagine something like this to take over say the Aetheryte area in the makers quarter in the Hinterlands in order to enable the zone teleport for there.