An investment in fine sand

I recently upon hearing news of the no NPC bought fine sand purchased a little over $7m worth. in fact 20,000pcs.

This is enough to craft me 320,000 shards.

What I'm concerned though is to back it up I will need 20,000 crystals or lots and lots of fish which is not impossible.

With the current cost of crystals between 1-2k theres absolutely no profit to be made selling the shards at 130g each, its about break even at 200g.

Do you think that the price will rise to over 300g or more again after this patch? Or do you think there will be hordes more people like me that just have a character full of fine sand?

i think your insane

but who knows, it may work out well for you

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Originally Posted by Haru

I recently upon hearing news of the no NPC bought fine sand purchased a little over $7m worth. in fact 20,000pcs.

This is enough to craft me 320,000 shards.

What I'm concerned though is to back it up I will need 20,000 crystals or lots and lots of fish which is not impossible.

With the current cost of crystals between 1-2k theres absolutely no profit to be made selling the shards at 130g each, its about break even at 200g.

Do you think that the price will rise to over 300g or more again after this patch? Or do you think there will be hordes more people like me that just have a character full of fine sand?

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most crafters i know that do alchemy are doing the same thing. i have a friend that just purchased 100 stacks today.

I wish you would have bought all the sand i had -.-;

This reminds me of the one time me and a few people manipulated the price of fire crystals in FFXI by abusing price history >.>

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Originally Posted by Gath

I wish you would have bought all the sand i had -.-;

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Isn't your 1 gil enough? =/

I think the fact that you felt insecure enough about your decision to post a new thread about it doesn't bode well.

Wow I thought i might be overdoing it when i bought 50 stacks of fine sand. If it never becomes purchasable from an NPC again it could be a great investment for a long time to come. Only problem with this thread is now anyone who wasnt paying close attention can run out and stock up too.

I'm going to laugh my little lalafell ass off if they make it so Djiggas drop 5~10 at a time like tails and baskets. I've been saying they should do that for ages.

I also went and bought a fk ton, but that is because I also broke tons of clusters months ago so I have over 1k lightning/wind to use them on!

idk, I pretty much sold all my moraine, made a nice little profit at 2k apiece, now i'm 200k richer for it.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I'm going to laugh my little lalafell ass off if they make it so Djiggas drop 5~10 at a time like tails and baskets. I've been saying they should do that for ages.

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agreed, but even if they do the people that bought the sand will only lose a few hundred gil out of a few thousand a synth. you figure a synth is 2400+ profit so even if they do drop drastically afterwards they'd still make 2k profit. all i keep being told is that they are doing it just in case. it's a better safe than sorry purchase.

the upside far out weight the downside of the buy if they plan to making shards imo. personally, i will buy a few stacks, but not going to buy tons.

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Originally Posted by Haru

With the current cost of crystals between 1-2k theres absolutely no profit to be made selling the shards at 130g each, its about break even at 200g.

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If you buy crystals at 1k, break even is 84g... people buy crystals for 2k in your server? how much is fish then? 10k? I'm sure there's money to be made there if you find the loophole :)

As for sand, of course everybody is doing it. Still, I expect the average shard price to go up to the 200-300 range once those stocks start diminishing, give it a ~1month.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I'm going to laugh my little lalafell ass off if they make it so Djiggas drop 5~10 at a time like tails and baskets. I've been saying they should do that for ages.

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It doesn't matter if its the commonest drop in the game (I wouldn't call a drop from Djiggas a common drop given the monster is not so common), if it's a mob drop and its a highly needed item for all crafters, the demand will be far greater than the amount coming into the market from mob farmers so the price would rise waay above the 350 tag that the npc has now. Even right now the cheapest fine sand in the MW is at 1k >.>

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Originally Posted by neizero

If you buy crystals at 1k, break even is 84g... people buy crystals for 2k in your server? how much is fish then? 10k? I'm sure there's money to be made there if you find the loophole :)

As for sand, of course everybody is doing it. Still, I expect the average shard price to go up to the 200-300 range once those stocks start diminishing, give it a ~1month.

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Crystal 999g, Sand 358g. Total 1357g
Result = 16(Minimum Quantity), * 150(sale) = 2400 = 1043 profit.

Thats an nice profit when you multiply it big or manage to get lucky, eg I did a lot of 500g crystals and sold at 200-250. The best is when you do have 16 lightning, then use 4 fish at 230, putting my total to 1357 + 920 = 2277, result = 48wind sold at 150 = 7200. So made 7k out of 2.2k, thats an nice 227% profit! 1m becomes 2.2m, and 10m becomes 22m and so fourth.

Or kill elementals XD for 6 crystals of that ele and chance at a cluster, fortunately I can breakthem, prepatch. Thats how I started off, days in cassi hollow to get 1k lightning crystals!

You can even make more profit now as Earth is usually more than wind these days and its cheaper to make lol.

Just this is very dry dulling boring! But it pays =D, Crystal + Sand = Shards + Fish = Shard = profit!

i recall the price went sky high for a while on Lindblum. 10x original, and then eventually it ran out and then there were no Shards for a while, but lately there's been plenty and i could never figure out why. Anyone know?

High Demand, easy to obtain, its a quick buck.