Bot and Min retainers not returning HQ items on high level ventures

Is there a problem with the normal botany and mining ventures? My ACN retainer usually returns at least 1 HQ item, sometimes more. But other than the 18 hour ventures, my Bot and Min retainers fail to return any HQ items on the level 51 through 60 ventures. Another in our static group has commented on the same. Anyone else seeing this?

How much gathering does your retainer have? Maybe needs to be higher. Mine returned some HQ mats

Both are over 400 Gathering, ventures take minimum of 388. I am sort of afraid that I will have to give them perception to be able to get at least the 1% just like my character bot/miner. Can anyone verify this?

mine used to not give me any HQ items until i upgraded their gear. now i'm getting about 1-2 HQ cedar logs per venture.

Well, I put the HW quest main and off hand tools on both, I will put a couple of pieces of HW gear on each and see how that fares. So, basically, HW gear on retainers to get HW HQ items?

I recall reading that "Perception does, in fact, effect the chance of retainers bringing back HQ items", long, long ago. Given that I've done nearly 100 lvl 58+ ventures on my MIN retainer and gotten not a single HQ item, where as others I know who have geared similar retainers have, I'd say it's likely true.

I recall reading that too. As such, I get some hq items on the lowest level hw gather stuff, but the topmost item I can get with them yet as I just barely pass the gathering score for it doesn't give any hq. I assume that when I update rest of their gear to match, giving them also reasonable perception score, I'll start seeing hhq for them too. That makes me wonder if there's invisible perception wall for the hq items, as there is the visible one to be able to get them at all.

After putting a couple of pieces of HW gear on my bot, I did get a couple of HQ cedar logs. Still leveling my LTW, so I can upgrade their gear as I go. I just didn't want to have to use my materia on retainer gear to get enough perception. Thanks for all the replies.

My retainer is still wearing hand me downs from a couple levels ago so 1/20 mythril sands will be HQ and not much else above that. So I'm actually having to mine those daily GC turn-ins myself, sucks.

All my DoL retainers tend to bring back HQ most of the time so not sure why yours are not and mine are just wearing NPC bought gear. I have 4 DoL retainers and yesterday for example 2 brought back HQ items, 1 brought back a big game fish and the other brought back a fat cat minion.

Which items did they bring back HQ?

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Originally Posted by Snugglebutt

All my DoL retainers tend to bring back HQ most of the time so not sure why yours are not and mine are just wearing NPC bought gear. I have 4 DoL retainers and yesterday for example 2 brought back HQ items, 1 brought back a big game fish and the other brought back a fat cat minion.

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The fat cat was from an 18 hour venture, yes? I was speaking about the normal bot and min ventures. My bot did bring back 1 HQ Ramie but I have not seen any HQ items for DOL ventures higher than that and rarely for anything lower than that. Both are still wearing a mix of 2.0 and 3.0 gear, still working on upgrades.

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Originally Posted by Kaaylryn

The fat cat was from an 18 hour venture, yes? I was speaking about the normal bot and min ventures. My bot did bring back 1 HQ Ramie but I have not seen any HQ items for DOL ventures higher than that and rarely for anything lower than that. Both are still wearing a mix of 2.0 and 3.0 gear, still working on upgrades.

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All of my retainers only currently do 18 hour ones because in process of leveling them, sorry if I did not make that clear.

There seems to be a correlation between perception, (and GP? I'm not sure on this one however) and HQ items. While it's not certain, I tried gearing my Botanist with the perception items (she now has the full level 60 set) and melded everything with perception. She now has 610 gathering, 639 perception, and while earlier I barely saw any HQ items (gathering did increase the number of items she could get, however, it's all 20 or 30 now), she now occasionally brings me back batches of 20 hq dark chestnuts (sometimes there's a split, like 17 nq 3 hq, but full hq batches seem common). My two fishers seemed to have a difference in the ability to bring back hq items based on their gear, too.
So in short:
Gathering: ability to gather items, amount of items (caps)
Perception: ability to gather hq items, amount of hq items (randomized)
GP: ???
Level difference: time for venture completion (10-19 level difference shaves 10 minutes,20+ level difference shaves 20 minutes, and it caps there)