Having trouble Getting and holding aggro after level 50

I'm a PC user, no game pad. And I'm an old man (53) so I'm a little slow on the clicking.

Here's my problem;

Now that I've reached level 50 I'm noticing it's taking me longer to get and hold aggro.

In defiance I generally throw a tomahawk, an Overpower while I turn the Mob(s) away from the group.

Then I use my combos Heavy swing, sunder, Butchers block. or Maim and Storm's eye.

Then while stuff is cooling down I generally hit with stuns, fracture... whatever isn't cycling.

In my current armor set my stats are Str=395, Dex=190, Vit=495 with HP at 6373 ( in Defiance )

I'll loose aggro ofter to Lancers, but sometimes healers ( please dont laugh too hard ) Which may mean I'm being OD'd by the lancers but doesn't explain the healers unless I'm not mitigating the healing enough with Stormwind's -50% healing reduction.

Basically something is very wrong. Any ideas?

Its your gear, you need a heavy upgrade on all of it. Assuming your profile is your current load out. Everyone is running ilvl 150 or higher. Its going to hard against those people, even level synched. To give you an idea check out the gear I'm running, even I'm low on ilvl but I can hold my own for now http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/7249699/

Plain answer - you're not generating enough enmity.

You need to do more overpowers and I would recommend cross classing flash from the Paladin to help you manage the TP in instances where you need to generate more aggro than you thought you would.

Also, after 50, you will get a lot of really geared players and if you, yourself are not as geared, there will be times when you have difficulty holding threat on everything.

Start looking at the gear other folks are wearing to see if they are outclassing you, so you can adjust your pull and how many overpowers you need to use to hold the enmity.

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Originally Posted by Eye_Gore

Its your gear, you need a heavy upgrade on all of it. Assuming your profile is your current load out. Everyone is running ilvl 150 or higher.

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It is my current loadout ty.

You're gear is likely insufficient. 6k sounds mad low for someone level 53 but I haven't been 53 in about a month so maybe I'm wrong.
Attempt Tomahawk + 2 Overpowers or Tomahawk + Flash + Overpower and you'll likely be fine. If your worried about a dragoon just throw in the heavy swing at the start following the tomahawk. Full Str players roll at 12/13kk health with defiance off at 60...your 7 levels below and have half the health while in defiance. Probably your gear.

If you do have the expansion, run the MSQ and you'll get some decent gear upgrades, side quests too. If you don't have the xpac start farming for poetics that gear will atleast get you up quite a bit.

While you did not provide a lot of details i can tell you Warriors with defiance have one of the easier times keeping AoE aggro.
Always look at your threat meter... this is a must for all classes but a tank if your red is blinking you are in danger of losing aggro.

Assuming you dps isn't all focusing random mobs you rarely have an issue with aggro until max level when ilevels could make you struggle with aggro. When i played Warrior I would overpower twice before i start rotating into hate combos. Cycling through the mobs on you two enmity attack helps quite a bit. If i know we are doing massive aoe having flash as a cross class can be helpful for helping to keep hate while not expending TP. Past this with what you have said it is too difficult to know any other issues you may be having.

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Originally Posted by Eye_Gore

If you do have the expansion, run the MSQ and you'll get some decent gear upgrades, side quests too. If you don't have the xpac start farming for poetics that gear will atleast get you up quite a bit.

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Kool didn't know about the loadout thingy. here is Mine. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1017424/

Have you completed the main story scenario? (By which I mean have you reached a point in the game where it wants to send you to Ishgard after retreating from Ul'dua?) If you haven't, stop running dungeons for a while and work on those story quests. You'll be rewarded with Item level 110 armor and weaponry that will make things a lot easier for you. There's a particularly nice ax called Conqueror that should solve your enmity problems in 50 content and below.

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Originally Posted by Grupp

Kool didn't know about the loadout thingy. here is Mine. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1017424/

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Your gear is your problem. Until you get better gear from dungeon spam you should be wearing the i115 gear you can buy from the vendors at the pillars or buy some ironworks pieces with any poetic tomes you have saved. Secondly you desperately need to get gladiator up to 22 for provoke

It's your gear + weapon, weapon dmg for every class in this game is HUGE most people you're grouping with probably have either their Zeta (ilvl135) or other high ilvl weapons. Once you catch up and get some more gear you'll be laughing at how easy you'll tank. Just be patient and it'll all come as a guy posted before, most people were running around in gear called "Slaying" in their right gear slots which is: Str, crit, determination which helps excel warriors (and other tanks) at tanking.

You're under geared vs over geared as been stated.

It's no different from a newbie tank in satasha vs i170 sync players.

You simply gotta do more of everything than usual. More than 2 over powers. Rotate aggro combo on all more than once and watch your bars. Your gear will be obsolete at 54. Time to upgrade. Tp burn is gonna be a nightmare but flash and nins can help ease the pain.

As others have said, it's your gear being weak compared to what others are wearing. That's understandable as a fresh 50. But I'll give you credit for rocking that Warrior look. So that's something!

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Originally Posted by Hundred

You're gear is likely insufficient. 6k sounds mad low for someone level 53 but I haven't been 53 in about a month so maybe I'm wrong.

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It IS mad low. 6k in Defiance? That's lower than some level 50 DPS (pre-Heavensward!). Your accessories really need love.

Most everybody you'll be running with has at least i115 gear, at LEAST, forget level synced level 60 characters—even the 50s. I had over 10k in Defiance at 50; that's the kind of gear standard most players are at, so your gear is just making this impossible for you. As people have been saying, you need to gear up, desperately. Get on those Poetics for now.

Also yes if you don't have Provoke yet drop everything and go get it. It's non-negotiable.

Thanks for all your help folks. Looks like I'll be finishing the MSQ. And concentrating on my gear stats more. And leveling my gladiator. A lot of good advice here.

It's your gear as other people have said before. You can probably just buy from the NPC's if you're not rich enough to afford some HQ sets from the Market boards and be fine. Can get everything but your accessories. Though if this is your first time through, quests will give you gear as well. But i'd still buy at least the npc gear atm until you get that far because 6k as a warrior is extremely low for Heavensward content, as a WAR.

My PLD and WAR are iLv123!? I only have issues in low-level dungeons (since folks like to still run ahead an pull even when I am holding 2 mobs). I can generally maintain control, but other than that, I'm usually golden, unless there's a higher tank there.

I DF'd T10 as PLD. There was a Lv60 WAR there (I was Lv50 PLD). Sadly, he would have to slow his dps because he would take hate even after I am bursting my abilities and he has no Defiance up nor using Butcher's Block. But when I'm paired with another tank that is under Lv55, it goes smooth.

Also reason you are losing hate to healers (don't feel bad though) probably they had to heal you too often and for alot. Like everyone said, try to upgrade your gear (weapon most important) get gladiator to at least 22 to get Provoke cross-class skill.

And I also advice you to get in to good , friendly FC and farm the dungeons :) Don't let up and most importantly have fun Warrior!