The title speaks for itself. Please allow open world PVE EXP to be equivalent of that of the EXP you can earn by doing FATEs in the zone. Tired of having FATEs crammed down my throat as the only open world PVE EXP grind.
1.0 was beautiful at doing this. EXP chains mattered. Grouping up and getting to the back of a stronghold mattered. There was gear to be obtained, EXP to be gained in the open world itself.
Why are FATEs and instanced dungeons the only way to grind for EXP?
Don't even bother showing me I just had an EXP chain because it doesn't even matter, in the end all your EXP comes from the bonus of the FATE, or the bonus of the Dungeon.
Are these really my only two choices?
What happened to gathering together as adventurers in the open world of Eorzea, picking a good spot to camp and group as many mobs together at once repeatedly for EXP?
What has resulted - Open world EXP farming for FATE's is notoriously botted now. Trash SB gear is frequently brought into dungeons because its the only place they can obtain good SB (T4 pre 3.0 for example.)
Go see for yourself by reading the threads complaining about it, or just spend 60s in Northern Thanalan.
The game is becoming less and less about random adventurers gathering together, it's more like this solo MMO where everyone gets a piece of the pie as long as they get one Aero in before the FATE is complete.
I got all my jobs in 1.0 to 50. Why? Because it was actually fun to group up and gain EXP. The thought of getting all of my other jobs now to 60 simply through FATE and Dungeon grinding, simply isn't fun. I've been a subscriber since 2010... and well... I feel like I'll always be here, but I'm starting to lose a lot of interest.
[Suggestion] Make Open World PVE EXP Chains a thing again
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07-22-2015, 12:49 AMmelisande[Suggestion] Make Open World PVE EXP Chains a thing again
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07-22-2015, 01:49 AMMaza
I agree with you all the way. The old ff I would play till 2 or 3 in the morning in exp parties for days, it was very challenging. Fates and the like are great I guess for people that gotta have it all as fast as possible, I'm kind of a pod person (don't care a wit about gearing up to the max, iknow, what a nub :/ ) and play games for fun and to relax from rl stress. Exp parties were a blast and it didn't seem like there was so much pressure for gear. It wasn't always awesome, few things are, but I was hooked on it. /shrug
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07-24-2015, 10:59 PMmelisande
Seriously, why dont they bring this back?
I entered 2.0 with all 50's, so i didn't realize that lvling up was exclusively done through FATE's, Dungeons & Quest turn ins.
I think I may take a break for a while, this is kind of a game breaker. -
07-24-2015, 11:01 PMTerribad
I prefer grinding mobs over anything else. I hate the only way to level other classes/jobs is fates or those slow boring dungeons.
There's nothing wrong with options. :) -
07-24-2015, 11:13 PMKietsu
Hi, devil's advocate here!
Pitching a tent and farming enemies with friends honestly just sounds like a really long FATE.
That being said, I agree there's not much of a sense of community when you're leveling up in the open world. Even if you hop into a party through PF, it ends up being a game of silent whack-a-mole 95% of the time. Trying to find a party for something other than FATEs is silly, because no such thing exists. It's a real shame, and I'm glad I have friends and an FC to keep me company. -
07-24-2015, 11:20 PMFelis
Exp chain still exist oO
You have just to kill enemies with 1 or more level higher than yours.
But what SE can bring back is party exp from linked leves. -
07-24-2015, 11:24 PMmelisandeYes, they exist, but don't matter as much as they used to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
In the end, what matters most is the bonus you get for completing the fate or dungeon.
The chains are there, but they simply do not matter as much. -
07-24-2015, 11:30 PMAshkendorYou can already leve link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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07-24-2015, 11:37 PMIbiDifferent strokes for different folks, but I always found sitting in one place waiting for people to bring in mobs, killing them all, then waiting again to be far more boring and mindless than any FATEs or dungeon.Quote:
Originally Posted by melisande
What makes you think that camped EXP parties wouldn't be at least as botted as FATE parties? Probably even more so, since it's a much less engaged and complex method of gaining EXP than FATEs.Quote:
Originally Posted by melisande
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07-25-2015, 12:21 AMHavenae
and here I'd just be happy if new content fates where more worthwhile exp wise than old content. People are literally grinding old content in the form of fates rather than experiencing new content because heavensward fates aren't rewarding in the least by comparison. That's a problem, if for no other reason than it's a poor design choice.
So please do something to ease the leveling curve for alt jobs. -
07-25-2015, 12:30 AMCrankysorcYou can already see bots farming mobs in packs of like 20 BLMs in C Than.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ibi
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07-25-2015, 01:02 AMFelisYes, but they don't give increased exp for the link, just normal exp as if there is no link. During 1.0 the links gave bonus exp to the enemy exp, up until 4 links.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashkendor
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07-25-2015, 01:49 AMKaedan
Why can't you have mob grinding be equivalent to FATEs and Dungeons? Because then they would have to take away the bonuses of FATEs and Dungeons.
If mobs gave a significant amount of XP, then FATE XP and Dungeon completion XP would have to be reduced significantly or removed altogether. So you would be destroying other people's playstyle for your own... an incredibly selfish request.
Whereas in the system we have now, FATEs essentially are mob grinding, just with specific targets you're supposed to go after. So your argument isn't really all that valid. -
07-25-2015, 01:51 AMKaedanActually, they increased XP for FATEs in Ishgard. They give a metric ****-ton of XP now. In Western Coerthas, you make 32-35k per FATE. And there's always at least one group of people going around doing them. It's actually much better than N.Thanalan now. I leveled my MCH from 53-54 in less than an hour on nothing but FATEs in Western Coerthas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Havenae
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07-25-2015, 02:01 AMMageBlack
You mean FATE's? Like Dark Devices? or is this just another "Let me find a corner of the map so I can ignore ALL THE CONTENT IN THE GAME and kill snipps for hours on end to level up" thread?
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Nevermind, it was the latter... At least I can now ignore this thread cause it will be going nowhere just like all the other ones like it. I still don't understand why people would do this intentionally... Its the most boring, mindless way to level and a huge reason I quit FFXI. But hey, if you are a Bot you will love this! -
07-25-2015, 02:24 AMAethaerynGo to Churning Mists. D: Maybe your server isn't doing the fates there, but they are soooo much faster than Coerthas. I did them from 54-60 on black mage because Hinterlands fates were taking too long to complete (and people kept splitting up).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaedan
But back on topic, I actually really hope they don't bring back exp chain parties. FATEs are a pretty big improvement on that, and it's all just a grind regardless. FATEs are so fast for levels right now, and there's no way they could make mobs give comparable experience without adding new maps with mobs that take more than a few seconds to kill in a party (and also ones that aren't daily hunt targets so that you don't ruin someone else's fun).