Real Patch Notes

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/24910

>.> holy crap... looked at the scroll bar and went C.C;;;; O.O!!!!!!! *eyes popped out of head*

because of forum posting not that far but like the appearance of the new tutorial features!

Exactly ^^ still going over them but im HYPED!

GC SPECIFIC SALUTES!!!!?!?!? pretty awesome!

Wow, I am about half way through the patch notes and I have to say that this is the best patch ever

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to.../ee/1214_4.png

look in the background of the blue... that face scares me XD!!!!

This is almost a mini-expansion õ_o

So much good stuff in these notes.

wow. I'm still only about half way. I have nothing but good comments on everything. Only one little spot even worries me.

SO much content! I'm a very happy camper!

Longest patch notes I've ever seen.
Too much to comment on so I'll just say <3 Featherfoot buff

and people thought that the weapons were the only ifrit drops! seems like there will be armor to! again another "surprise"

One thing I do not like. If you kill/defeat ifrit with everyone belonging to the same company, the rewards are increased. The population on servers is already low enough and now my LS will prolly shun me if I choose a wrong GC. This bothers me.

Archer Nerf!!!

some pictures aren't loaded, hope SE fix this ASAP! xD

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Those who defeat Ifrit in a party formed exclusively of members from their own Grand Company will earn greater rewards.

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This concerns me because right now, like it or not, everyone is in Ul'dah ul'dah ul'dah.
Anyone with levels or aspirations to fight this guy will know that parties will be formed with this in mind and feel forced to join U'dah. What other way can there be if you want to significantly increase your odds?

Maybe people won't care after all, and i hope not, but it worries me.

OK, read them. Now I need to read them again :D.

Anyway, the only problem I have is it isn't Tuesday. Why can't it be Tuesday?

[dev1032] The following actions are no longer executable while in passive mode:
* All magic spells
* Actions which can be used on self or other party members


typo I assume? maybe are now allowed to be executed in passive mode

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

This concerns me because right now, like it or not, everyone is in Ul'dah ul'dah ul'dah.
Anyone with levels or aspirations to fight this guy will know that parties will be formed with this in mind and feel forced to join U'dah. What other way can there be if you want to significantly increase your odds?

Maybe people won't care after all, and i hope not, but it worries me.

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I think it should be pretty obvious that everyone will be joining Twin Adder for the least dorky looking salute emote. Priorities.

Yes its a typo and was corrected already.

Yup it's a typo. Magic can now be casted in passive mode. At least that is what I think they meant going by the image.

And wow the patch notes are nice, this is going to be so much fun. :D

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This concerns me because right now, like it or not, everyone is in Ul'dah ul'dah ul'dah.
Anyone with levels or aspirations to fight this guy will know that parties will be formed with this in mind and feel forced to join U'dah. What other way can there be if you want to significantly increase your odds?

Maybe people won't care after all, and i hope not, but it worries me.

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I agree and that is literrally the only thing that worries me after reading the patch notes. I want to choose gridania because I love the lore but I won't now. I'll choose uld'ah now.

Thought the notes would be a bit longer...

It is going to take me at least a month to get use to this awesome patch.

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Originally Posted by NefarioCall

This concerns me because right now, like it or not, everyone is in Ul'dah ul'dah ul'dah.
Anyone with levels or aspirations to fight this guy will know that parties will be formed with this in mind and feel forced to join U'dah. What other way can there be if you want to significantly increase your odds?

Maybe people won't care after all, and i hope not, but it worries me.

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It's probably got more to do with company seals rather than drop rate.

Yeah, it kinda sucks, but it isn't terribly terrible.

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Originally Posted by Royal

I agree and that is literrally the only thing that worries me after reading the patch notes. I want to choose gridania because I love the lore but I won't now. I'll choose uld'ah now.

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Honestly, I'd say don't worry about it. The rewards are "greater" but they didn't state how. Nothing about it is really mentioned. Plus that gear will also eventually become obsolete down the road but as of now you can only choose your company once.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

It's probably got more to do with company seals rather than drop rate.

Yeah, it kinda sucks, but it isn't terribly terrible.

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If it was tied to company seals you'd think they would make that clear by saying: "Completing the repeatable quest "Ifrit Bleeds, We Can Kill It" exclusively with other members of your Grand Company earns you extra rewards (or just simply say company seals)

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Honestly, I'd say don't worry about it. The rewards are "greater" but they didn't state how. Nothing about it is really mentioned. Plus that gear will also eventually become obsolete down the road but as of now you can only choose your company once.

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With both Ifrit and Darkhold being tied to Grand Companies there is a good chance future content will be as well, I think it is a pretty serious issue that needs to be gotten to the bottom of.

Amazing update :D (Other than Victimize getting nerfed ; ; ). Also why are conjurers getting their abreviations changed? I used to call my ls' conjurers just 'con's but now I wont be able to resist calling them conjies!

Also +1 to Rage Of Halone begin awesome and +1/2 ~ -43 depending on what they did to my shield, im skeptial but I trust yoshi o.-;

The patch notes sound really good and hope the dev team keep up the great work. It's times like this when you really get to properly see and appreciate the level of work they are doing to get the game back on its legs.

[dev1191] The credits have been updated.

hahaha i lol'ed hard at this xD

The sheep got bigger XD!!!!

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Originally Posted by Razor

Amazing update :D (Other than Victimize getting nerfed ; ; ). Also why are conjurers getting their abreviations changed? I used to call my ls' conjurers just 'con's but now I wont be able to resist calling them conjies!

Also +1 to Rage Of Halone begin awesome and +1/2 ~ -43 depending on what they did to my shield, im skeptial but I trust yoshi o.-;

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Victimize got a buff not a nerf. The 60 seconds is nothing especially when a Pugilist can equip Keen Flurry and do it twice in one minute. However it got a debuff which if any good will give Pugilists a needed and viable role in parties.

This could be an awesome patch for Pugilists.

WOOT NO MORE GUARD! lolol! thank god! oh and im just soo lovin this...

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Originally Posted by Murugan

Victimize got a buff not a nerf. The 60 seconds is nothing especially when a Pugilist can equip Keen Flurry and do it twice in one minute. However it got a debuff which if any good will give Pugilists a needed and viable role in parties.

This could be an awesome patch for Pugilists.

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It would be for sure if they'd done what we asked them to do with Simian Thrash. T_T

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

It would be for sure if they'd done what we asked them to do with Simian Thrash. T_T

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Evade AoE's, and be happy we got something. All melee got something good in this patch and archers got nerfed. Be appreciative of their efforts to balance the game.

I'm not sure if I'm understanding the new MP regen mechanics. I get that we will not be constantly regenning MP while in passive mode and casting. But about the "incurring enmity" line in the notes, does this mean we will not be able to regen mana once we start a battle? Once we take our first action, we will have enmity from then on. Or do they mean if an enemy is actually attacking you? I really hope we don't have to start relogging to reset enmity to regen mana. :(

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[dev1144] Most damage algorithms have been renewed in conjunction with the abolition of physical levels and the automation of character attributes.
These changes serve to streamline the influence of damage algorithms upon battle attribute calculations.

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You know, considering the monumental amount of work that went into this tiny sliver of the update,
the size of this patch is astounding.

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Originally Posted by Royal

One thing I do not like. If you kill/defeat ifrit with everyone belonging to the same company, the rewards are increased. The population on servers is already low enough and now my LS will prolly shun me if I choose a wrong GC. This bothers me.

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Just a way to further segregate the population.

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Originally Posted by naaros

I'm not sure if I'm understanding the new MP regen mechanics. I get that we will not be constantly regenning MP while in passive mode and casting. But about the "incurring enmity" line in the notes, does this mean we will not be able to regen mana once we start a battle? Once we take our first action, we will have enmity from then on. Or do they mean if an enemy is actually attacking you? I really hope we don't have to start relogging to reset enmity to regen mana. :(

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Correct, it seems that if a monster is attacking you, even if you're standing still, you won't regen HP or MP. Everyone else would be able to regen. "HP and MP will automatically recover only while the player is stationary, regardless of whether or not he/she is engaged in battle."

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Originally Posted by naaros

I'm not sure if I'm understanding the new MP regen mechanics. I get that we will not be constantly regenning MP while in passive mode and casting. But about the "incurring enmity" line in the notes, does this mean we will not be able to regen mana once we start a battle? Once we take our first action, we will have enmity from then on. Or do they mean if an enemy is actually attacking you? I really hope we don't have to start relogging to reset enmity to regen mana. :(

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Incurring means acquiring so unless DoT generate enmity and you have a DoT in effect (I don't believe they do generate enmity at this time), then you are not incurring enmity just because you have engaged and incurred some already.

It is a present participle of an action verb. Unless you are "doing it" in the moment, you are not technically incurring enmity.

Though it was already clear they changed it:

HP and MP will automatically recover only while the player is stationary, regardless of whether or not he/she is engaged in battle. The amount of HP and MP recovered will increase based on the amount of time a player remains stationary.
The recovery amount will reset under the following conditions:

The player is attacked
The player moves or performs an action

Oh okay, thanks both of you for the clarifcation! =)