Wondering about something Garuda says to Gaius van Baelsar in story trial

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07-20-2015, 12:43 PM
T2teddy

Wondering about something Garuda says to Gaius van Baelsar in story trial

Garuda to Gaius:

Quote:

That foul stench...I see now! She has touched you!

:confused:
Uh...SHE who? It almost seems she's talking about another primal or god...whatever it is freaked her out enough to summon Titan and Ifrit to her
07-20-2015, 12:53 PM
Mysteltain

She's not referring to Gaius, but to us, the player. The "She" refers to is Hydaelyn, who has blessed us with the Echo, which prevents us from becoming enthralled by the Primals.
07-20-2015, 01:06 PM
T2teddy

Nope she was talking directly to Gaius in a conversation with him alone. I just watched the video a few times to confirm

Quote:

Camera focusses on Gaius:
"Is that all? O Lady of the Vortex! O mighty Garuda! Of all the Primals, the most terrible, I say again. IS. THAT. ALL!?"

Cid: "Gaius?"

Gaius: "Ah, Cid my boy, you look well for one who has forsaken kin and country. I wonder, what else will you forsake before the day is done?"

Cid: "What?"

Gaius: "What exactly did you hope to accomplish here this day?" Gaius asked.

Cid: "I…"

Gaius: "Well, I shall accomplish far more!"

The Ixali charge toward Gaius, he shoots them all.

Garuda to Gaius: "Is that all? IS THAT ALL!? Insolent mortal, I shall make you suffer! That foul stench, I see now. She has touched you! Very well…"

Then she hurts the captured beastmen enough to make them summon Titan and Ifrit.
07-20-2015, 01:48 PM
Dyvid

Well it could mean Gaius has the echo given by the Ascians.
07-20-2015, 02:31 PM
Anonymoose

Let's not let this get too far away from us, lol. Before Gaius intrudes, Garuda is struggling to understand how you can possibly resist her.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garuda

You, landwalker─you who dared to raise your hand against me─you shall be the first to pay for your sins! Not with your death─but with your LIFE!
You will serve me, landwalker...to your last breath!
<Garuda attempts to temper the PC; the attempt fails>
No, NO!!! I claimed you! You should be MINE!
<The Blessing of Light reacts, tearing the aether just bestowed on Garuda from her chest and manifesting a Crystal of Light>
What...what are you? What have you done to me!?
No mortal should possess such power! This...this is impossible!
Why do you not tremble at my might? Why do you not beg for mercy!? Why do you not DIE!?

Gaius interrupts her, but after she scoffs at him, she goes right back to talking about you.

EN: That foul stench... I see now... She has touched you!
JP: So... Now, I understand. This impure presence... the divine protection of the star!?
DE: Ah... The Crystal aids you...! This is your vile little trick!
FR: I see... I understand... this is the protection of Hydaelyn!

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When I first saw the scene, I didn't really grasp that Garuda was planning to consume Titan and Ifrit - and I wondered why people kept saying that. "Surrender yourselves unto me, I would feast upon your aether!" sounded like the same general "to all present" threats she was making before. But, indeed, she is speaking directly to Titan and Ifrit, demanding that they submit to her as the one true god and grant her their strength to make her "invincible."
07-20-2015, 02:48 PM
Exodus-E

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

BONUS INFORMATION
When I first saw the scene, I didn't really grasp that Garuda was planning to consume Titan and Ifrit - and I wondered why people kept saying that. "Surrender yourselves unto me, I would feast upon your aether!" sounded like the same general "to all present" threats she was making before. But, indeed, she is speaking directly to Titan and Ifrit, demanding that they submit to her as the one true god and grant her their strength to make her "invincible."

So...had Gaius not intervened with his Ultima Weapon, we could've had a "Mexican stand-off" between 3 Primals?
Because if so, that would've been awesome.

We totally need more scenes involving Primal confrontations among themselves.
07-20-2015, 04:11 PM
Anonymoose

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exodus-E

We totally need more scenes involving Primal confrontations among themselves.

I think it's been implied before that this is one of the possible outcomes of the Ascians' meddling - that multiple societies could summon multiple one true gods and then having them go all Primal Rage on each other (pun not intended but deliciously apt) until the era collapses.
07-20-2015, 11:55 PM
Fenral

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I think it's been implied before that this is one of the possible outcomes of the Ascians' meddling - that multiple societies could summon multiple one true gods and then having them go all Primal Rage on each other (pun not intended but deliciously apt) until the era collapses.

Considering the fight between

Shiva and Ravana

in Heavensward is probably the coolest fight scene we've gotten in FFXIV so far, I'm hoping it was just the tip of the iceberg as far as future story developments go.
07-21-2015, 01:19 AM
Theodric

It's interesting how the term 'foul stench' is used. I suspect it can be tied in with the way in which a certain someone views the Warrior of Light after the current expansion's final trial.
07-21-2015, 04:35 AM
Sakasa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theodric

It's interesting how the term 'foul stench' is used. I suspect it can be tied in with the way in which a certain someone views the Warrior of Light after the current expansion's final trial.

Maybe but Ramuh didn't see that in us, mayhap because his purpose was not as direct as Garuda and the other. Or maybe it was infact just the understanding of being defeated while holding "ultimate power" in ones hand. Because Gaius said a similar cryptic line about the player holding the power of a king which I just connected with the idea of ffXII Dynast King. One Chosen by fate. One similar to Sinbad whose every opposition had no chance of defeating him till his fated position was achieved. So built in story armor if you will.
07-23-2015, 08:34 AM
T2teddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

-snip-

I'm aware of, but not interested in what was going on before Van Baelsar cut in, but what occurred immediately afterwards.
Gaius does more than JUST interrupt her, he INSULTS her severely and she responds emphatically, directly to him, not to me. She was facing Gaius when she shrieked her responses to his words.

Quote:

Gaius:
"Is that all? O Lady of the Vortex! O mighty Garuda! Of all the Primals, the most terrible, I say again. IS. THAT. ALL!?"

Garuda to Gaius:
"Is that all? IS THAT ALL!? Insolent mortal, I shall make you suffer! That foul stench, I see now. She has touched you! Very well…"

By consuming Titan and Ifrit it is my belief she intended to prove to Gaius that 'No! That is NOT all!'
It appears to me she has completely dismissed our party.

Wouldn't make any sense that she's ranting one second at him and the sort of 'oh excuse me a sec, I need to finish up with this little twerp. Brb.'

I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree! :)
07-23-2015, 01:00 PM
PArcher

Its also good to remember Garuda is *insane*. Just because she seems to be speaking to one person does not mean she really is.

She could also be thinking that you and Gaius are on the same "side" (or, at the very least both are enemies and neither is more or less important than the other), and so facing him is no different than facing you.