3.05 PvP

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In patch 3.05, the Grand Companies once again ask for the aid of adventurers in staking their claim to Allagan relics.

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*rolls eyes* Why bother with the GC limitations, you're making new maps for nothing. You're in a high populated GC? have fun and wait for hours in a queue until other GCs meet the requirement... :rolleyes:
No problem! switch GC so you can lose all your progression so far.

They spent all this effort to make a new mode and it'll be unplayable for the same reason the old modes were.

Brilliant.

They always ignored our feedback about it and put lore above gameplay. It's really silly that after this long it has never been changed.

Fail incoming in.......

I was so looking forward to pvp, but it seems that yet again if I want to play I'll have to make sure I have the whole day free... And sit in queue for 3 hours until it rings. If it does at all....

The sad thing is, if they removed GC vs GC vs GC Frontline would be instant que.

They should add some kind of mercenary system or something, that would at least speed up the que times a bit, especially if you are from a overpopulated Grand Company.

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Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl

They should add some kind of mercenary system or something, that would at least speed up the que times a bit, especially if you are from a overpopulated Grand Company.

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I'm sure SE could come up with some satisfying lore for this too.

Pls Understand.

Ping ^

That's true. The GC are limitations. Just make it free without these damn gc

For the first time in the game, with Frontlines SE gave us content we could enter unencumbered by role restrictions- no need to wait on DPS/Healer/Tank ratio to be met queueing in, and the ability to change class upon arrival, which was great. Finally, the ability to play something as soon as the minimum number of players was met, unlike with how everything else works. EXCEPT.... they had to throw in this GC restriction that made it even worse. Ask any player, would you rather-

A. Be able to play a match at the point you decide to by queueing through DF, or
B. Wait up to over an hour to play that same match so you can be aligned only with those who arbitrarily chose the same GC as a sub-level 25 player

A. Be able to queue up with our friends and/or anyone else of your choosing such as people who ask you for advice on how to PVP effectively, or
B. Your friends have to swap GC's to queue with you (one did yesterday but that is a hell of a lot to ask)

A. Have the overall pool of players you're aligned with & against on the battlefield (beyond those you queue with) be randomly determined one match to the next
B. Have the same opponents & teammates match after match, so whatever dynamics exist outside your control that contribute to a win or loss never change

A. If we must have the GC restriction, have it so stronger, more experienced players can easily change teams to give newer/weaker GC's a chance and balance out queue times a bit or...
B. Allow someone to make that team swap, but lock it in for 15 days and oh yeah, you start over at 0 with PVP rank for each GC and can no longer equip PVP rank-tied gear you earned (even for glamour purposes).

What everybody seems to want is A. What we've been given is B.

Fighting over for more Allagan Stuff. Next thing you'll know they'll add a more "civilized" mode of collecting Allagan Data called Allgan Slaughter, where we somehow obtain allagan data from KOing other players who are not allagan but somehow have relevant allagan data thats put into your GC's Allagan database.

Allagan.

....Why they bother and waste there time/effort with PVP stuff...? >.>

I mean.. they dont even add NPC's that are fighting with us so the wait arnt countless hours...

After a year of complaints...

Once again i can't play with all of my FC mates, cool stuff.

Pvp in this game has and always had 2 problems:
1. GC restrictions
2. New maps/modes always offer better/faster reward than the old ones so people rather run the same mode/map all the time. This way PvP will never expand.

Imo best solution is to let one of GCs win one day, end this whole PvP fiasco and then release some 3 different PvP maps with different modes - Team deathmatch, Capture the Flag and Siege (one team defends castle, one sieges it). Players would be hired by some landlords and they would be automatically put into the team that needed more people.
More modes, no more GC restrictions, more fun.

Now fire the PvP director (if there even is any) and hire me. Hue Hue

I really wish they would remove the GC limitation. The few people in my FC whom I wanted to play with we couldn't due to having a different favorite GC. All of us stopped bothering with it at all since we couldn't play with whom we wanted without making a huge sacrifice.

I really like the PvP in this game. Which is crazy, because I hate PvP. I like the armor, the PvP only skills, the frontlines are particularly fun, because they are low stress brawls. If they would just remove the restriction on GC I would PvP all the time, because I wouldn't be waiting all day for a queue to pop.

The GC's haven't been relevant to the players since they hit level 50 before CT. They serve no purpose now especially when they don't have updated ranks. They are vestigial at best and PvP doesn't need to suffer because of them.

Just change the storyline to say that since there is a ban on outright conflict between the nations, they have to hire mercenaries to participate in skirmishes that don't have official political ties to each nation. Queuing puts you in a random GC as a mercenary, bam, done.

oh boy i can't wait for the premade/static flame party from gilgamesh to kick my ass again non stop :D

If they removed the Company 'limitation' then... what lore reason could they give? "Who needs a reason to PvP?" Well, for one, the people who don't like PvP to begin with. You had such an early influx of PvPers because there were non-PvP rewards in the form of the mounts and glamour-bait equipment. Once they got what they wanted they were done, as is presently the case given queues for Frontlines. They tolerated it for as long as they did because there was a overarching goal that wasn't just, "Kill the other teams." You had a central target, but also secondary targets that they could sit back and defend and still have the potential of winning. If it wasn't for this I'd never have tried it myself. Most players here don't care about the various 'measuring' contests that permeates PvP, so removing the lore from it would only really serve to ensure that they will never try it.

I like PvP in and of itself. I enjoy it.

However with GC restrictions it is nearly impossible to get into this games PvP mode. Furthermore the gear from raiding and PvP are isolated so you can't even really show off your PvP skills.

I wish they would add a "mercenary mode". Where you join the gc that is in most need for that battle. It would go towards your over-all win score (ads mount),not your gc win score (gc-pony). It wouldn't break lore either, people who want to stay with their gc only could still do so.

Still only rank 21 with little motivation due to the wait lol
Should have bumm rushed it during the WD era or when FL was new lol.

I agree. Queue times are far more important than lore.

SE please fix pvp GC vs GC vs GC dont work, long queue times and we cant queue with our FC mates.

Also fix mages/healers , everything imterrup our spells and thats sad

How can they continue this GC policy? They MUST have some form of metrics that shows how long it takes to get a PVP match. I refuse to believe they don't track that data at all.

This mode will be dead in under a month. Such a waste of development time and resources.

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Originally Posted by Akuryu

How can they continue this GC policy? They MUST have some form of metrics that shows how long it takes to get a PVP match. I refuse to believe they don't track that data at all.

This mode will be dead in under a month. Such a waste of development time and resources.

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A month? Slaughter was dead within a week. lol

ive been eagerl waiting for this hoping it would be different but meh ._. ive given up on frontlines rewards due to 3 hour waits for a loss lol

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Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl

The sad thing is, if they removed GC vs GC vs GC Frontline would be instant que.

They should add some kind of mercenary system or something, that would at least speed up the que times a bit, especially if you are from a overpopulated Grand Company.

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WoW apparently is just now doing this with Ashran.

mercenary system.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/198...mode-7-15-2015

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Originally Posted by Kit-Kat

A month? Slaughter was dead within a week. lol

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then again slaughter was a mindless zerg fest in the middle.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

WoW apparently is just now doing this with Ashran.

mercenary system.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/198...mode-7-15-2015

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i can get behind this.

Adventurer is just a nicer way to say mercenary anyway.

I lol'd10char.

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Originally Posted by SovereignAegis

I like PvP in and of itself. I enjoy it.

However with GC restrictions it is nearly impossible to get into this games PvP mode. Furthermore the gear from raiding and PvP are isolated so you can't even really show off your PvP skills.

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not quite sure what you mean here since PvP gear is completely useless outside of wolves den. and even in there it's pretty useless as well seeing as the pve gear was on par with the ilvl morale turned it into.
the materia bonuses were pretty negligable tbh.