Tank LB3s

So most of the time its the DPS that gets to use their LB3 it seems. Which I guess makes since, a bit damage spike to finish or mostly finish off the last 10% of a bosses health would likely be a skill you would want to use when you could.

I have seen healer LB3s save the day at times as well. If the boss is low on health but most of the ride dies due to a mechanic mess up, healer pops LB3 and we pull it out in the end.

But I have never....NEVER seen a tank seriously use his LB3. Its always been "Save LB3 for DPS to finish off quickly" or "Have the healer LB to pull us back in the fight". Ive never NEVER seen anyone say "Tank LB!"


So I ask...what could happen to get more traction out of tank LB. Perhaps there is a boss or two that require good timing of a tank LB to survive (Raid wide tank buster if you will), or maybe it would require changing the effect of tank LB all together?

T13 required a tank LB to survive teraflare.

i think it would be amusing if they made the tank LB changed so for a set time period you reflect damage back at the enemy. so if you use it before a huge tank buster that you know will do enough dmg to 1 shot you and/or the raid you use the tank LB (like in the fight with nidhog if est doesn't get the shield up in time.) it would turn all that damage back on the boss instead of you and the party.

i90 Wandering Minstrel Ultima orb-eating LB3.. I do miss it ; ;

I hoped they would do more fights like Cloud of Darkness - where the LB bar refills almost automatically from phase to phase, but then add mechanics making Healer and/or Tank LB necessary to survive that phase transition.

Yeah, for me tanks had to use it a few times against the Cloud of Darkness when the DPS missed the clouds phase, to avoid wipe.

But it would be great to use it more frequently, I've never seen the new animations.

I got to use the Warrior LB3 the other day, towards the end of an A1 wipe. Definitely a cooler animation than the old tank LB3. I'm assuming it still has the same effect, though.

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Originally Posted by Xenosan

i90 Wandering Minstrel Ultima orb-eating LB3.. I do miss it ; ;

I hoped they would do more fights like Cloud of Darkness - where the LB bar refills almost automatically from phase to phase, but then add mechanics making Healer and/or Tank LB necessary to survive that phase transition.

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I believe it filled really fast because of the meteors. It went up by a big chunk whenever someone ate one.

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Originally Posted by OliviaBadger

T13 required a tank LB to survive teraflare.

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Needed it for the ultima fight too at first on the last orb phase. Can't really think of any other times it was absolutely required.

Ifrit Ex had the same deal.. It didn't really matter where you LB bar sat before the final nail phase. Each nail killed adds to the LB bar, by the time all nails except the big one are killed - any group WILL have a full 3 bar LB available. Mechanics like that and the WoD meteors (or was killing Puffs too?) that are designed to provide full 3bar LBs at precise moments are a welcome addition. Disappointed that we're not really seeing that in NM ALEX.

Yeah, I kinda wish there were weaker, personal Limit Breaks you could use whenever. As it is, you might as well not even have your LB on your hotbar unless you're melee DPS.

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Originally Posted by Aerya

But it would be great to use it more frequently, I've never seen the new animations.

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Go into ifrit hard and wait till nails are dead. 100% chance at an lb3 if all nails were killed. I was trolling them awhile back just to see what all of the new animations are. as an added bonus, its lvl 50 not 60 so if you. Have or know someone with all 50's you can watch them all.

I really wish they'd have redone what the Tank LB did.

It's all about the DPS LB's, because they actually progress the fight. A Tank LB will only add a retarded high layer of protection for an incredibly small duration of time. Only useful during situations where for some reason, everything is going wrong. But if things are going wrong, people are probably dying. Thus making Healer LB better.

Also you don't need LB3 for T13 anymore in undersized groups. It was nice while it lasted though.

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Originally Posted by OliviaBadger

T13 required a tank LB to survive teraflare.

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Not any more though. ;)

Tank LB should be 10 seconds of 50% damage taken and 50% additional resource and health regeneration.

I miss this... http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/C...ctics_Advance)

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Originally Posted by Ceodore

I miss this... http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/C...actics_Advance)

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faulty link? when i tried it says page does not exist...

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Originally Posted by dragoelete

faulty link? when i tried it says page does not exist...

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Fixed. The URL brackets were in the wrong place it seems.

Counter attack LB for Dark Knight! Reflect the big aoe of the boss back - makes things more interesting for us tanks.

Weakness always made the Healer LB3 questionably useful for hard fights in my experience, as the damage would usually just melt everyone immediately. But a tank LB? I've never even seen such a thing. If you can't justify it in more than a couple of fights in the game, then as far as I'm concerned it's just a toy we don't get. I had a situation where I thought of using the tank LB on a failed Ravana DPS check for Bloody Fuller, then I realized it would've fallen off too quickly to work.

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Originally Posted by Aerya

Yeah, for me tanks had to use it a few times against the Cloud of Darkness when the DPS missed the clouds phase, to avoid wipe.

But it would be great to use it more frequently, I've never seen the new animations.

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Same here, I've seen it against Cloud of Darkness and I think Ultima HM, but that's about it.

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Originally Posted by CodeCass

Same here, I've seen it against Cloud of Darkness and I think Ultima HM, but that's about it.

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i got to see the new DRK LB3 in the cloud of darkness fight... to bad it was used a second to late...

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Originally Posted by Timat

finish off the last 10% of a bosses health

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This is exactly when I LB unless there's an obvious chance at failure.
DPS that leave LBs to the last possible moment are really strange.

i used tank LB3 in ARR progression more than few times saving the day. IN HW I had the possibility to see my DRK LB3 only once in A2, after the fight ended, cause the only melee was in the gobwalker and the ranged/caters didn't noticed or forget about it XD

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Originally Posted by Xenosan

Ifrit Ex had the same deal.. It didn't really matter where you LB bar sat before the final nail phase. Each nail killed adds to the LB bar, by the time all nails except the big one are killed - any group WILL have a full 3 bar LB available. Mechanics like that and the WoD meteors (or was killing Puffs too?) that are designed to provide full 3bar LBs at precise moments are a welcome addition. Disappointed that we're not really seeing that in NM ALEX.

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Yea, I get the idea they don't want to design fights with the Limit Break in mind like that with a few exceptions. It's just usually an extra thing, but the Tank LB has to be required or it won't be used.

I think they should do more with the added LB mechanic. Just seeing the LB bar fill up is cool, and you could use it to force a Tank LB at least sometimes.
I think have the LB auto fill and make it integrated into the fight would be much better.

It takes really long to fill up. I get the build-up is part of the design but having it as part of the fight design is still more dramatic.
And there would be more freedom to include the Tank LB if had more auto-fill mechanics.

That might just make the Healer LB ignored if you use it by design instead being able to save it as a safety net.
But that's why there should be a mix.

And though we're saying DPS is mostly used, it's Melee LB like 90% of the time. Not integrating the LB into the fights really makes it lack diversity.