Fishing Aetherial Reduction Tread

Hey folks! So I've been... kinda wondering where this thread is as it is kind of important. So I'm going to use this thread to relay information about certain collectible fish that can be aetherially reduced and what they yield. Any additional help would be appreciated.

NOTE: I will be editing this post frequently and without warning, so please check back often for more information!

NOTE 2: As per request, my fishing stats as of the start of this thread is as follows:

Gathering: 523
Perception: 439
GP: 607

My gear can be found at this link: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R9RT

NOTE 1: My gear above is for Miner, hence the higher stats due to an off-hand tool, but I use the exact same armor and accessories for Fisher. For a main hand, I use a non-melded HQ Birch Fishing Rod
NOTE 2: I was doing this with Trailblazer gear (the blue scrip gathering gear)

Before the list, I want to point out that you will always get Water Crystals/Clusters from regular fish and you will always get Ice crystals/Clusters from Cloud fish. Other than that, things like Duskborne Aethersand have a chance to appear at 3/8, Dawnborne has a chance to appear at 5/8, and Seaborne has a chance to appear at 8/8. Happy fishing!

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Dravanian Bass (Reduction Level 56)
Location: Dravanian Forelands, Whilom River (29, 15)
Time: 12AM - 6AM
Weather: Fog, Clouds, Dust Storms
Catch Method:

Goblin Jig -> Dravanian Bass (Straight Catch)
Stonefly Nymph OR Purse Web Spider -> Blueclaw Shrimp -> Dravanian Bass (Single Mooch)

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Manasail (Reduction Level 56)
Location: Churning Mists, Tharl Oom Khash (Requires Cloudfishing)
Time: 10AM - 2AM
Weather: Fair Skies, Clear Skies
Catch Method:

Red Balloon -> Manasail (Straight Catch)
Red Balloon -> Sky Faerie OR Rudderfish -> Dravanian Bass (Single Mooch)

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Caiman (Reduction Level 58)
Location: Sea of Clouds, Voor Siran Siran (27, 34) ; Dravanian Forelands, The Iron Feast (30, 5)
Time: 6PM-8PM
Catch Method:

Stonefly Nymph -> Blueclaw Shrimp -> Caiman (Single Mooch, Dravanian Forelands Only)
Bladed Steel Jig -> Bullfrog -> Caiman (Single Mooch, Sea of Clouds Only)

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Pteranodon (Reduction Level 58)
Location: Churning Mists, Sohm Al Summit (20, 40) (Requires Cloudfishing)
Time: 9AM - 5PM
Catch Method:

Red Balloon -> Sky Faerie OR Rudderfish -> Pteranodon (Single Mooch)
Red Balloon -> Sky Faerie -> Rudderfish -> Pteranodon (Double Mooch)

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Thaliak Caiman (Reduction Level 60)
Location: Dravanian Hinterlands, Middle Thaliak River (21, 22)
Time: 3PM-6PM
Catch Method:

Goblin Jig OR Bladed Steel Jig -> Sweetfish -> Thaliak Caiman (Single Mooch)
Stonefly Nymph OR Purse Web Spider OR Bladed Steel Jig -> Bullfrog -> Thaliak Caiman (Single Mooch)

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Tupuxuara (Reduction Level 60)
Location: Azys Lla, The Habisphere (40, 18) (Requires Cloudfishing)
Time: 3PM-6PM
Catch Method:

Red Balloon -> Tupuxuara (Straight Catch)
Red Balloon -> Sky Faerie OR Rudderfish -> Tupuxuara (Single Mooch)
Red Balloon -> Sky Faerie -> Rudderfish -> Tupuxuara (Double Mooch)

RECOMMENDED STRATEGY: Use Patience II, when you get a Medium/Large tug, use Powerful Hookset, otherwise just use Hook. Using it on Medium will get you a Rudderfish, which is moochable for Tupuxuara, and Large is always Tupuxuara. Small tug could be either Sky Faerie (Best Case Scenario) or, more commonly, Unidentified Flying Biomass (Worst Case Scenario). Using Hook while under the effects of Patience II will more often than not cause the small fish to get free, allowing you for much faster hooking on the larger fish that you actually want.

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needs your gathering and perception stats on this aswell but good job :3

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Originally Posted by Spawnie

needs your gathering and perception stats on this aswell but good job :3

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As per your request, I have added my current gathering stats.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

As per your request, I have added my current gathering stats.

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haha awesome thankies :3

I also added a recommended strategy for tackling Tupuxuara, which is looking to be the easiest of the Lv60 Reduction Fish, based on personal experience. I managed to net 4 Tupuxuara of Rank 8/8 using the above strat.

I have recently caught both the Caiman and Thanliak Caiman. The Caiman gave me Dawnborne sand at 8/8 quality and water crystals while i had another at 7/8 which gave Duskborne and more water crystals. The Thaliak Caiman though was 8/8 with Duskborne and water crystals

Got a Seaborne Aethersand off a 8/8 Thaliak Caiman. Can't quite remember setup, but was mooched off something with a Goblin Jig.

Tupuxuara also drops Seaborne Aethersand.

If you have the dravanian folklore book you're unlikely to be able to be successful targeting Thaliak Caimans and are better off going for the more difficult Tupuxuara. If you have the book for Azys La you'll likely been unsuccessful at targeting Tupuxuara and should focus Thaliak during that window.

Where is Manasail love?

You don't need to list yield per individual fish. Everything is shared across all fishes. Here's the rules:

- Every freshwater fish yields Water Crystals/Clusters
- Every skyfishing fish yields Ice Crystals/Clusters

Yield is depending on the level of fish. Lv56 fishes yield about 20-30, Lv58 fishes yield about 40-50, Lv50 fishes yield 60+.

Every Aetherial Reduction of rarity 2/8 or higher yields an extra item, the higher the rarity, the more items are possible.

- Clusters are added as a possible drop from rarity 2 onwards
- Duskborne Aethersand is added as a possible drop from rarity 3 onwards
- Dawnborne Aethersand is added as a possible drop from rarity 5 onwards (unconfirmed)
- Seaborne Aethersand is added as a possible drop from rarity 7 onwards (not confirmed if 6 can drop as well)

Higher level fish can drop multiple Duskborne Aethersand (up to 3), evey other type of sand always drops in singles.

About fishes and their times

Missing Fish:
Manasail (10:00 ET - 13:59 ET [unconfirmed!]) Red Balloon > Rudderfish or Sky Faerie > Manasail | Tharl Oom Khash (The Churning Mists)

Wrong Time:
Caiman is available from 18:00 ET to 20:30 ET (confirmed)

Preferred Bait:
Caiman: Stonefly Nymph will always catch a Blueclaw Shrimp which will very very high likely (90%+) catch a Caiman
Thaliak Caiman: Bladed Steel Jig will catch Sweetfishes and Bullfrogs a lot more commonly than Goblin Jigs or Purse Web Spiders and the likes.

Are you sure 7/8 gives Sea sand.. Or just 8/8.. And can it be 56 and 58 Fish?.. I can't be 100% sure but I think I got 2 Sea sand last week from the lv58 Pteranodos. Any one know for sure?

This is a stupid question but ... How do you manage to know if it's a small or medium or big Tug ? I mean for the big one my character stand up from his seat but how do you know for medium or small ?

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Originally Posted by Runesansu

This is a stupid question but ... How do you manage to know if it's a small or medium or big Tug ? I mean for the big one my character stand up from his seat but how do you know for medium or small ?

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By the sound.

Seaborne/Leafborne/Landborne are all from 7/8+ things. Got multiple Seaborne from both 7/8 and 8/8 but its not guaranteed.

Small thug means the movement of the rod is very slight when it bite,
medium thug you will have the rod move a lot more than small thug but you will not stand, also the sound is diferent.
on controller there diferent vibrations too.

Oki thx mates. I've never played with the sound, I guess i'll have too :p

So the only fishes that give water crystals/clusters are Dravanian Bass and Thaliak Caiman?

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Actually can anyone help on this question as well? I've been trying to get Dravanian Bass and Thaliak Caiman, but every collectible I get from them is at 7/8 or 8/8. I don't get any clusters at all. Only Crystals and Aethersands.

I apologize for not updating the thread. I'll be doing that shortly.

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Originally Posted by Moogy

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Actually can anyone help on this question as well? I've been trying to get Dravanian Bass and Thaliak Caiman, but every collectible I get from them is at 7/8 or 8/8. I don't get any clusters at all. Only Crystals and Aethersands.

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That all chalks up to luck, really. The rarer the fish, the more common the aethersand. If you somehow manage to catch fish at 2/8, you're guaranteed crystals.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

That all chalks up to luck, really. The rarer the fish, the more common the aethersand. If you somehow manage to catch fish at 2/8, you're guaranteed crystals.

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My actual problem is I want only 2/8 but I always get 8/8. Hoping that lowering my gear from Serpentskin to Dhalmel will help that.

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Originally Posted by Moogy

My actual problem is I want only 2/8 but I always get 8/8. Hoping that lowering my gear from Serpentskin to Dhalmel will help that.

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No it won't. If you HQ you get 7-8/8 if you get NQ you get 2-4/8, but since all of them are Mooches and you want to use Patience, good luck NQing them.

Collectability/rarity is purely based off of fish lenght x10.

These 4 fish are great for ice/water clusters (up 80 clusters a fish) and Seaborne sand

Aetherial Fishing Guide


Perception controls Collectivity ... this makes it really easy to collect 8/8 fish

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Originally Posted by Fitz_

These 4 fish are great for ice/water clusters (up 80 clusters a fish) and Seaborne sand

Aetherial Fishing Guide


Perception controls Collectivity ... this makes it really easy to collect 8/8 fish

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Indirectly. Collectivity = Fish Size in 0.1 Ilms per Collectability point x10 - so the biggest boost is to HQ which is from Perception but also proper usage of Patience or Patience II.

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Originally Posted by Jaeifer

Indirectly. Collectivity = Fish Size in 0.1 Ilms per Collectability point x10 - so the biggest boost is to HQ which is from Perception but also proper usage of Patience or Patience II.

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And some blood sacrifices to RNG gods.

Sadly offering grilled sweetfish with la noscean lettuce not good enough.

Which f these require the Folklore books, and which do not?

I have caught Dravanian Bass without the Folklore book, but what about the rest?

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Which f these require the Folklore books, and which do not?

I have caught Dravanian Bass without the Folklore book, but what about the rest?

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Neither of the thalik's require books to catch, I'm not sure about the other fish being mentioned.

you forgot Manasail at Tharl Oom Khash Fishing Hole at The Churning Mists which require Skyfishing Bait, can be straight catch or mooch :)

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Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder

Which f these require the Folklore books, and which do not?

I have caught Dravanian Bass without the Folklore book, but what about the rest?

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All reducible fish can be caught without folklore book.

Sorry for the long wait, I have updated the original post!

I would like to point out that Dravanian Bass is best caught with Brute Leech if the weather is not cloudy, and Goblin Jig is pretty terrible for them. You will only be able to catch Bass and Shrimp that mooch Bass in these conditions.

Also, Pteranodon is 41% straight catch with Giant Crane Fly. This is a better catch rate than any of the mooches, and if you don't reel on anything other than big tugs, you will catch a lot more of these in the window.

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Originally Posted by Dynas

I would like to point out that Dravanian Bass is best caught with Brute Leech if the weather is not cloudy, and Goblin Jig is pretty terrible for them. You will only be able to catch Bass and Shrimp that mooch Bass in these conditions.

Also, Pteranodon is 41% straight catch with Giant Crane Fly. This is a better catch rate than any of the mooches, and if you don't reel on anything other than big tugs, you will catch a lot more of these in the window.

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Ah, my apologies, I didn't account for the new bait for this guide's update. I'll go ahead and revise as soon as I can!

I just want to note that my best luck with these fish has been with Thaliak Caimans. I can normally catch ~3 HQ in a window. (Best window was 6 HQ.) Basically, you pop Patience at the very beginning of the window and again at the start of the last hour. You'll be using a Bladed Steel Jig and then the first catch is with Precision Hookset followed by Powerful Hookset for the Thaliak Caiman. Precision Hookset will catch both of your mooches, Sweetfish & Bullfrog, and then the dud, Philosopher's Stone.

As for loot, I tend to get more HQ Seaborne Aethersand than NQ and I'd put the return on any Seaborne Aethersand from them around 60-70%, assuming you get an 8/8.

Okay this is just ridiculous for doing Aether reduction. By the time you catch enough fish to do the reduction, let alone the rng involved, you can go out and gather way more crystals and clusters the old fashioned way. This is just a waste of time....

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Originally Posted by Sartori

Okay this is just ridiculous for doing Aether reduction. By the time you catch enough fish to do the reduction, let alone the rng involved, you can go out and gather way more crystals and clusters the old fashioned way. This is just a waste of time....

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If you're just after clusters and crystals. then yes you are right (but we're not just after those things).

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Originally Posted by Sartori

Okay this is just ridiculous for doing Aether reduction. By the time you catch enough fish to do the reduction, let alone the rng involved, you can go out and gather way more crystals and clusters the old fashioned way. This is just a waste of time....

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yep, fishing aetherial reduction...heck, fishing collectibles as a whole are an absolute nightmare (and colossal waste of time.) YOU HAVE LITTLE TO NO CONTROL - if you are a miner/botanist, fishing just makes you rage even more when you realize all the consistency and control you have with the other two jobs is GONE, nearly 100% RNG.

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Originally Posted by Dynas

IAlso, Pteranodon is 41% straight catch with Giant Crane Fly. This is a better catch rate than any of the mooches, and if you don't reel on anything other than big tugs, you will catch a lot more of these in the window.

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this is the best fish for reduction. i normally catch around 10-15 in one window. sometimes up to 20.

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Originally Posted by Tint

this is the best fish for reduction. i normally catch around 10-15 in one window. sometimes up to 20.

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just tried this one and yep,agreed. all the aetherial reduction fish should be straight catch-able with no weather conditions (just time windows.) scrip fish, ok fine keep them mooch fish.