Suggestion: Flying in Housing Areas

Seeing as flying in 2.0 areas is still a far away wish and not certain at all, why not make flying available in residential districts.

There are three suggestions that apply for all areas:

1. Expand the area bounds
2. Make something already existing accessible via flying
3. Add something new that is accessible via flying only

Most of the above are because it wouldn't be that fun if the only thing we could land on would be roofs and ground, in addition to them there should be few landing spots in the area. And I stress the term "landing spots" because I've noticed that in 3.0 areas there are many places you cannot land onto even though they would look solid enough. They just weren't built that way, so I'm hoping if this suggestion ever becomes real, these places we would be able to land on too.

One important thing to note is that all residential districts have barriers that prevent us from seeing outside the area (in to nothing). I'm fairly sure that the far away objects or "areas" we see are not that finished, meaning there needs to be limits how high we could go so we won't be able to gaze outside. I think it needs to be done this way because making those areas scenery-worthy would take too much time and add unnecessary clutter to the wards.

Right, with that in mind, let's begin!



The Mist

http://i.imgur.com/Xpu1OWY.jpg

1. Expand: Horizontally there isn't much where to expand to here but the sea: allow us to fly a bit further from the beach (so we can do this).

2. This one is obvious, if anything should be accessible it's the great bridge... wheel... thing. However I'm not quite sure how viable it would be because it's nearly as high as the rock behind it, which is supposed to block our view from the ugly nothingness.

3. As for new landing spots, neither of these (picture below) wouldn't be possible in their current state. The island is too far away and most of the little house/tower things are on top of the rock. Maybe an island closer to the shore or what I would personally love: a ship you could board (just like in Limsa or Wolves' Den).

http://i.imgur.com/LZVS1My.jpg




Lavender Beds

http://i.imgur.com/vKbGV3m.jpg

1. Lavender Beds has a good amount of rocks as a visual shield all around, so making the fly zone is easy enough if you just expand on the water. The branches of the big tree can't be made accessible but the roots can, or more likely, the water around them. Behind the big waterfall and the docks there are "openings" on the rock wall but if you limit flying to the narrow spots it should be all good.

2. There isn't many places to convert to landing spots, maybe the rocks on the water and deciding whether it would be possible to land and walk on water because at times it's pretty shallow.

3. As for new additions, there are the thick, big trees but they lack branches and aren't good landing spots, so branches of other big trees could be made into ones or by adding big bird nests. Alternatively a cave behind or above a waterfall, similarily to Hinterlands.

http://i.imgur.com/u3rRBTK.jpg



The Goblet

http://i.imgur.com/49xUkro.jpg

1. Let me just start this off by saying that on good weather Goblet would be absolutely amazing to fly at! The area is vast and the rocks are tall, so expanding the flying zone would be peace of cake and it can be made pretty big too. And it would add to Goblet's attractiveness, as currently it seems to be least popular of all housing districts.

2. Just like with Mist's attraction, I think the big windmill would offer good landing spots in Goblet. There already is a deck and balcony (picture below) and some small bridges. There is also something that is assumably an airship landing and is currently unaccessible and it's not known if there are any future plans for that. And last but not least the green patches of rock (can be seen in picture above) that are all around Goblet and in the outer rocks.

3. Since Windmill would already offer high up scenery spots, maybe add a cave or a tunnel that runs below Goblet. There is already a lit tunnel, it could be similar to that but a bit larger so it would be easy to fly through, even better if the other end is hidden behind a waterfall.

http://i.imgur.com/pdHkchy.jpg

I really like this idea and hope that it will garner support and one day be added to the game. That being said, I think that the inclusion of the screen shots captured really show why this would be an amazing thing to have in game eventually!

It certainly will solve the issue of getting on the roof of the new Merchant Wall houses.

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Originally Posted by Syler

I really like this idea and hope that it will garner support and one day be added to the game. That being said, I think that the inclusion of the screen shots captured really show why this would be an amazing thing to have in game eventually!

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Liselsia

It certainly will solve the issue of getting on the roof of the new Merchant Wall houses.

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Indeed, plus easy access for balconies.

please SE... PLEASEEE!!! i know y'all are already bogged down with a metric butt load of work for housing alone... and going off what you said about the 2.0 areas and what they would need it sure sounds like it will not be as easy as flipping a switch but it would be really something to be able to reach all these fine places OP has point out.

to actually be able to see some of these places from this view point...

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p...jpg?1387969138

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p...jpg?1387969138

http://i.imgur.com/8Chx17U.jpg

I'd love to fly around The Mists and Lavender beds on my mount - It's an idea that i can see happening eventually!

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Originally Posted by Pterois

to actually be able to see some of these places from this view point...

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p...jpg?1387969138

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There's even an airship in the Ul'dah pic!

Thanks for the support everyone, hoping to suggest this again when the thread for next live letter is up.

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Originally Posted by Pterois

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p...jpg?1387969138

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I'm going to be real; this picture makes The Goblet actually look really damn cool...

You do realize that most "3-D" environments are only "2-D" with tricks, right? I've seen what it takes to present the city of Ul-dah, broken up into many small chunks. Not pretty, but the actual effect is quite thrilling to look at.

It's not as simple as stitching things together. I suppose we can give up a dungeon instance if you like, although I feel most people would become quite bored with the invisible barrier around the housing areas that limits you to, oh, 200 meters height and surrounds the entire area.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

You do realize that most "3-D" environments are only "2-D" with tricks, right? I've seen what it takes to present the city of Ul-dah, broken up into many small chunks. Not pretty, but the actual effect is quite thrilling to look at.

It's not as simple as stitching things together. I suppose we can give up a dungeon instance if you like, although I feel most people would become quite bored with the invisible barrier around the housing areas that limits you to, oh, 200 meters height and surrounds the entire area.

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Yes. Unlike when making this thread, I've since seen the outside barrier of Mist and realise that making the idea true would require more work than I initially though. But I still think it's fairly possible.

The main reasons why I would like flying to be added is because
1) with HW you're kind of used to flying and it's slightly annoying when you can't
2) people would be able to access their rooftops and balconies on any plot or without crazy glitch tricks

The point is: you wouldn't need to be able to fly high. Just so you can reach the rooftops.

Going to use Mist as an example here because it's the trickiest one. If the middle wheel was made accessible as a landing spot, they would need to fix the look of outer hills a bit but those part should still be out of reach. I still think they could extend the beach limit just a bit without breaking immersion to fly over the "deep" side of water, maybe add a raft with a picnic set as a landing spot that's just out of reach by walking.

As for Lavender Beds and Goblet, they already have high rocks/hills outside so only minor modification or none at all would be necessary.

I really like the idea to fly around, I know Yoshi-P has said that 2.0 are no-flying zones, but I think to be able to fly can be easily to implement and wont disrupt the gameplay or code too much in housing areas.

Especially with the addition of Isgardian housing, which most likely will be set in the Sea of Clouds.

While it may be easy to implement the flying function into 2.0 areas you have to keep one thing in mind: when and how did you achive flying?

Everyone far enough in the storyline and therefore most likely all of your friends aquired flying by now. Think of the new players though. They have to play through all the storyline up to heavensward where you unlock the ability.

I would love to fly in old areas (it annoys me just as much that I can't) I really doubt they will ever implement this to old areas. Especially when you consider the large areas of 3.0+ (where flying is almost a must to proceed through the map in an equivalent time frame) compared to the rather small areas of 2.0.

you are right Sere i dont think they will ever implement flying in the 2.0 areas (outside world maps) because they werent designed for that feature... but i like the idea of flying at least at the housing areas... we just finished our mog house yesterday - so chilling ontop would be totally nice for us to celebrate it :D

Yea I love how you have an actual "floor" on top of Goblet houses. I wish we could make them useable/accessable. A roof party! Think about how cool that would be! So yea, stairs would do but I'm totally in for flying around the housing area. It would be like your private "helichoco" landing platform!

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Originally Posted by Serendair

While it may be easy to implement the flying function into 2.0 areas you have to keep one thing in mind: when and how did you achive flying?

Everyone far enough in the storyline and therefore most likely all of your friends aquired flying by now. Think of the new players though. They have to play through all the storyline up to heavensward where you unlock the ability.

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That's a good question though, hadn't thought about it. But unlocking things is the same for everyone, we have to run through some hoops to be able to participate. I think after you're able to fly in the first map it could be added automatically for housing areas too. And veteran players could still offer pillion rides to the roofs for lower levels.