The thread about children playable deleted?

Can't go to it any more. Its gone. Why? Is it because of the pedo bear pics?

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Originally Posted by ScarecrowJames

Is it because of the pedo bear pics?

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Most likely, yeah

Its pretty irrelevant. They couldn't make playable children regardless because of Legal issues no matter how much players wanted it. They outright stated that.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

Its pretty irrelevant. They couldn't make playable children regardless because of Legal issues no matter how much players wanted it. They outright stated that.

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meanwhile I can play as Ellie in last of us? or Hope in FF13? Or Link in zelda? I think its more of the Skirts and underwear.

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Originally Posted by ScarecrowJames

meanwhile I can play as Ellie in last of us? or Hope in FF13? Or Link in zelda? I think its more of the Skirts and underwear.

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you can still see annies panties in league of legends explain that?

Sigh... no, it's not JUST about the attire or the roleplay. It's about the blood and the violence as well. Again, some countries have laws about violence against children, real or not. It's why other game companies don't put children in their games or make said children immortal and invulnerable. And these countries can, will and have banned games from their shores over it.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Sigh... no, it's not JUST about the attire or the roleplay. It's about the blood and the violence as well. Again, some countries have laws about violence against children, real or not. It's why other game companies don't put children in their games or make said children immortal and invulnerable. And these countries can, will and have banned games from their shores over it.

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and some countries you can't play with female characters whats ur point?

It deserved to be gone. Let's just forget it happened.

Some countries have very strict 'violence against children' laws, and videogame makers have been having to tiptoe around that for years because videogames tend to have you fighting things.

I don't get why people keep saying it's about violence about children. There is seriously a quest in FFXIV where you fight children.

meanwhile in the nasuverse...

i'm not sure if it was the pedobears or the "look ma, no clothes!" or maybe "why is the WoL a ten-year-old?!? where are their parents?"

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Originally Posted by saber_alter

meanwhile in the nasuverse...

i'm not sure if it was the pedobears or the "look ma, no clothes!" or maybe "why is the WoL a ten-year-old?!? where are their parents?"

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Not gonna lie that made me giggle xD

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Originally Posted by odie

I don't get why people keep saying it's about violence about children. There is seriously a quest in FFXIV where you fight children.

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and lightning punches hope in ffxiv

and ellie is shot bitten and had to fight off a canibal who 'wanted' her.

in fact theres a lot of violence against children in video games,

headspace with the exploding babies and children that were turned into necromorphs.

as for JRPGMMOS theres the ... i forget what there called but there like miqo'tes that everyone RPed as. ellin?

still i think it was mostly of the people who were a bit sick in the mind to automatically assume the things people should never talk about >...> and the fact that hijacked the whole thread after 8 pages,

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

as for JRPGMMOS theres the ... i forget what there called but there like miqo'tes that everyone RPed as. ellin?

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That's not a Japanese game.

Why, exactly, do people want to play as children so badly?

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Originally Posted by MisterLucie

Why, exactly, do people want to play as children so badly?

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I don't think people want to play children children (under 10), but more people like Alphinaud. 13-17

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

That's not a Japanese game.

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i never really played that game but i was told it was japanese D: so my mistake on the auto assumption

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Originally Posted by MisterLucie

Why, exactly, do people want to play as children so badly?

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i think for some its the cuteness factor, like lalafells some people just wanna be cute.

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i never really played that game but i was told it was japanese D: so my mistake on the auto assumption



i think for some its the cuteness factor, like lalafells some people just wanna be cute.

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It's Korean. There's a difference.

And you can still be cute and not be a kid. That's the part we're not understanding. Why do they have to be "children"? Becuase that's what's being advocated.

I'm all down for cute. Hell I'd kill for something adorable that didn't look like a sack of potatoes. Sorry, lalas are adorable, but that body shape just... I can't do it.

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

i never really played that game but i was told it was japanese D: so my mistake on the auto assumption



i think for some its the cuteness factor, like lalafells some people just wanna be cute.

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Personally I'd be fine with Lala'qotes also XD

To answer why some people like playing as kids: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KidHero < Basically this.

And the cute factor also, but that's about the extent of it. Kids in real life suck and are a waste of organs xD

I didn't delete it, that's for sure.

Not sure if I regret making the thread though.

thankyou mods
it was for the better

I honestly don't know why people are so eager to play children...? Like you have 'cute' races already..

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Originally Posted by Yellow

I honestly don't know why people are so eager to play children...? Like you have 'cute' races already..

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I'd rather play as a kid than a lalafell and even why is everyone saying 10 yr olds? I mean these kids can't be teens?

One other issue is that it's just EASIER in a game this size with a customizable avatar to make the characters fully grown men and women. It widens the scope of what you can do with said characters and it's simpler for a script.

People will call you a man or a woman when you see them and refer to you and interact with you as if you were an adult. Some of the NPCs flirt with you, too. Usually it's pretty vague but sometimes it's...not so subtle.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhra

Some of the NPCs flirt with you, too. Usually it's pretty vague but sometimes it's...not so subtle.

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I think THIS is more the problem since it was said legal issues were involved. There is a hell of a lot of sexual tension between the PC and several NPCs (even just sidequest NPCs that have nothing to do with the story). So if we got children as a playable characters that would be a lot of dialogue they'd have to change and re-write.

Which truthfully I wish they would do that anyway so that each race was a bit more specialized (like since Au Ra face discrimination, it's a bit odd that people in the ARR quests don't give a chocobo tail feather what you are) when doing the story. But since they've shown they don't even want to do that, I doubt they'd be willing to do so for kid characters. And thus they pull the legal card.

For example, that one quest where the bathing Mi'qote ladies ask you to drive away peeping toms. I don't think they'd take a child seriously threatening them. I don't know what that quest giver says to male PCs, but at least to females she also reveals she has zero problems with you watching her instead. "Bet you didn't think I swung that way, did you~?" Again...that probably wouldn't go well. So that's one quest that would either have to be left out or completely redone.

All I can say is good riddance. Nothing good would ever come of playable children. One look at TERA or B&S is all you need to prove that.

Uhm seriously that thread was creepy..

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Originally Posted by DreadRabbit

For example, that one quest where the bathing Mi'qote ladies ask you to drive away peeping toms. I don't think they'd take a child seriously threatening them. I don't know what that quest giver says to male PCs, but at least to females she also reveals she has zero problems with you watching her instead. "Bet you didn't think I swung that way, did you~?" Again...that probably wouldn't go well. So that's one quest that would either have to be left out or completely redone.

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They say pretty much the same exact thing about letting you watch, minus the comment about being a lesbian. :P

Yeah, that thread was pretty weird...

There's a difference between teens and children. (even though there are teens that do act like children and there are children that are more mature beyond their years)

I guess the assumption of a 10 and under is because that's what a child is. 10 and under.

I think if we were aiming towards teenagers being playable title of the thread should be 'Playable Teens' or 'Why can't we play as teenagers?'

I think it's weird that every thread about this jumps straight to "pedophilia." Like that's the first thing that everyone thinks of whenever children are mentioned.

Maybe the thread was deleted because of that Wedding picture.. It shouldn't be a problem if it was 2 lala in that.

I can't really say if it's because of the violence against children and whatnot, or maybe that the NPC interactions tend to lean more on the adult side. Handling of alcohol and innuendo come to mind. Rubbing down Godbert and Hildy too. Plus I don't think it would be very fitting for the plot to have a kid/teen being the savior of the realm. I mean unless they make Padjal playable somehow, I doubt we'll be able to play characters younger than adults (~18). Hybrids of lalafells may be possible, but... *shudders*

Also there are more pressing matters at hand!

Why do Lalafells have better facial hair than the other races? I mean look at derplander males, I hesitate to call theirs facial hair. My guy looks like he's 15, it's hardly peach fuzz!

And highlander eyebrows? Where are they!? Manthras don't even have facial hair! And Elezen? Hardly any by comparison! Why do Lalas get all the hair!? They're hording it all, aren't they!? Can't trust them as far as you can throw them... :P

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I could kinda see it working from an RP standpoint since many characters in cartoons are children but it'll likely be turned into a joke and would be strange in an mmo setting, especially one marketed in several regions around the world.

EDIT: oh and erp is a thing in mmos.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

Its pretty irrelevant. They couldn't make playable children regardless because of Legal issues no matter how much players wanted it. They outright stated that.

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This has never been an issue in Mabinogi and it's been available since like 2003. Also it doesn't have blood. Neither does FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by saber_alter

meanwhile in the nasuverse...

i'm not sure if it was the pedobears or the "look ma, no clothes!" or maybe "why is the WoL a ten-year-old?!? where are their parents?"

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Here's a mind breaker for you. You can get gay-married in Mabinogi, as two 10 year old girls or boys. You can also have a family consisting of nothing but 10 year olds.


There is nothing illegal about it. The only reason games shy away from this is because of overbearing "childporn" laws and Roleplayers who take advantage of the fact that the video game is "real enough" for them. I'll post this again:
https://community.secondlife.com/t5/...fe/ba-p/575781

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Accusations Regarding Child Pornography in Second Life
by Honored Resident Robin.Linden on ‎05-10-2007 05:32 AM
What’s going on?
On Thursday May 3, we were contacted by German television network, ARD, which had captured images of two avatars, one that resembled an adult male and another that resembled a child, engaged in depicted sexual conduct. Our investigations revealed the users behind these avatars to be a 54-year-old man and a 27-year-old woman. Both were immediately banned from Second Life.

During a subsequent interview with ARD’s Report Mainz documentary on Friday May 4, which aired Monday, the reporter presented photographs that he said were found in Second Life and that appeared to include sexual photographs involving a child.

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The point is, there will always be bad actors, and keeping your game away from them will never be possible. Look at how little of a dent SE makes into getting rid of RMT.

If you give players the option to play as children, the first thing you do is make sure the body is fused with the gear so modders can't "declothe" them. The second thing you do is remove "offensive" emotes that could be misconstrued as sexual acts.

In Mabinogi there was a "pelvic thrust" part of a certain animation, and because you could interrupt all the emotes with another emote by rapidly firing them off, it gave the impression of grinding into other players. There was also a way to interrupt the "resting" animations to make it look like your character was tea-bagging the another player that is sitting down. These kinds of people will always exist.

And quite honestly, being an asshat online has far more reaching negative consequences for your existing and potential future careers, that people who go around spreading "mmololicon" images are likely to get their ass kicked for realsies by anyone who makes that connection in the media to the real person.

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Originally Posted by Zeirnaton

and some countries you can't play with female characters whats ur point?

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I like that you're comparing females to children.

Just wow.



Also, never heard of such a thing. What countries exactly are prohibiting people from playing with female characters!? I'm assuming a country that does that wouldn't allow video-games to begin with!

"The thread about children playable deleted?"

Yup. And now it's time for this thread to be deleted...

I rather SE just hotfix the height bar from the smallest Lalafell to the highest Roegadyn.

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Originally Posted by Tsukino

I think it's weird that every thread about this jumps straight to "pedophilia." Like that's the first thing that everyone thinks of whenever children are mentioned.

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Well we got some weird ass people playing. You can't deny that.