I will make this thread short by saying why not implement the current FATE system into hunts? I'm sure everyone knows what the system is but for those who don't, this would be to calculate a hunts HP based on the amount of people who killed it previously.
I'm not whining or complaining about hunts, I deal with it if I don't get the chance to kill one, I just think this system would be great to allow everyone a better chance at hunting (we all know hunts are pulled really quickly and cause drama between players).
Thoughts?
Thank you,
Lumina.
Edit: I appreciate everyone's ideas too, but this thread is focusing on the current hunt system and not just additional ways to get seals. Any suggestions are welcome but please try and keep them relating to the current hunt system :)
Implement the FATE system to hunts?
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07-10-2015, 08:47 AMWinterLunaImplement the FATE system to hunts?
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07-10-2015, 08:48 AMsilentwindfr
i feel more they need to make Fate that ask to kill boss to reward seal.... problem solved!
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07-10-2015, 08:51 AMCeodore
Not a bad idea. To add to this, I kind of wish they would have used FATEs to reward a very small amount of seals, like 1 seal if you get gold, and only centurio seals came from fates in the new areas. But I'm not entirely disappointed with the current system because I know the FCs out there that will gank the mobs without announcing them, and I don't bother with the hunts. Just like with 2.0, the best gear isn't going to come from Hunts in the end. It's going to be Alexander Savage.
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07-11-2015, 12:40 AMWinterLuna
Yeah, I agree with the FATE suggestion. Even if they add more ways of obtaining seals though, the hunt system is still needs some work imo.
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07-11-2015, 02:15 AMFelis
Only if it don't get a circle on the map, the weather change and chat get locked except /say and maybe /party (everyone should hunt it himself).
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07-11-2015, 03:31 AMWinterLunaI am just referring to the HP being calculated based on the amount of people who previously killed it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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07-11-2015, 04:04 AMMoonleg
The problem is there may be a spawn when the server is packed, meaning it gets insta-gibbed by a 200 man zerg, but next spawn is during work hours and there are maybe 10 people on to try and kill it.
What I would like to see is something similar to how WoW handled the rares on Timeless Isle; the rare's HP increased for each player that tagged it, meaning the more seriously camped ones would go from 6 million hp to over 100 million at one point. -
07-11-2015, 04:46 AMRamienBecause no FC or other group has skype or teamspeak or discord or other means of communicating outside the game...Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
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07-11-2015, 04:52 AMWinterLuna
I didn't play WoW so I'm not 100% sure on that system, but it also sounds good.
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07-11-2015, 05:44 AMLuvbunny
They could just make a new stack of bills that rewards 30 seals per kill with 5 wanted mobs which is a mix between FATE Bosses (only in new areas), FATE in general, and another mix of ALL dungeons 2.0-3.0. This way you can get decent amount of centurio seals per day doing all the dailies.
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07-12-2015, 08:13 AMWinterLuna
I like these ideas but I'm thinking more of the current hunt system. I just think the HP needs to be increased in some way or another to account for everyone 1) being way overgeared for the level 50 hunts, and 2) the fact they are continously zerged.
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07-12-2015, 08:17 AMsilentwindfr
the hp trouble come from the fact you have not enough prey for all the hunter per server, that all! why people are soo eager to hunt them? because it's the only way to gather seal as much as you want. and that the main error of SE, make the infinite seal come from only one source. if they had used the fate already present they will have solve the trouble looooong ago!
other solution was to use the leves system for make people spawn them own prey to hunt in the area with only information like: "it's in the hinterland, find it before it disappear!"
they don't need to change the hp, but make people spread throught content, less hunter will solve the trouble. increase hp will solve nothing! it's not different of the band aid.
the solution is to stop the zerg, for stop the zerg they need to add other way to gather seal as good than rank A and S, like this people will do different content depending of what they prefer.
more option is the only solution!!! -
07-12-2015, 08:20 AMWinterLuna
It will solve it if the HP is determined in a set way. The hunts can't be zerged if 100 people killed it beforehand and the HP is set based on that. It would give people a chance to actually get to the hunt. Also a good idea though.
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07-12-2015, 08:41 AMsilentwindfr
they had a system before (dunno if the NDA concerning the previous beta is still on) anyway, this system was too heavy for the server and was creating major trouble. that why we have now a system that adapte FATE difficulty depending of the previous one participation.
that why they can't really do this for Rank A and S, since some can take a few hours or day before respawn, meaning if not enough person is there for do it, this rank A or S will never be killed, before another zerg come.
like said the trouble of the hunt is simply to have too much people do the same activity into the world. instead to go with a solution for spread player throught the content, they have choose the easy way to implement but the worst one in terms of balance. do they can solve the trouble of the rank A and S die too fast because of the zerg? nope, impossible, like i have explain in another thread, even place a system that will increase the hp of the monster is not a solution. since tank and healer will not deal the same amount of damage than a dps, then how decide how much one player is worth in term of hp boost?
and even like this, it will kill the main goal of the hunt, Rank A was means for a group of 4-8 player and Rank S for a group of 16-24 player. (depending of the gears and chocobo)
oh by the way, the chocobos! i did forget them, each chocobo are considered like a member of a team, for make simply like a player for the game.... meaning they will increase the hp boost.
it's not without reason that they haven't implemented it.... because how balance it?
ps: believe me i did wait the hunt, but what we did get was not what i was expecting, i did hope that they will release a content that will have rivalize with raid in terms of activity, meaning player will have choose to do hunt or raid or both! but will have get a progression throught this! the main forte of the mmorpg, is the world, sadly soo far we are all into a tunnel with one main activity! -
07-12-2015, 08:48 AMMilesSaintboroguhThat's....basically what hunts are right now (minus the weather and your silly chat lock)Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis