Current absolute highest DPS in the game?

I am curious what the highest DPS is at present, and the job associated with the highest DPS.

Some people are saying Monks are parsing above Ninja's...

So what is the truth? When played properly / smartly which DPS's elite parses higher?

*This is ignoring difficulty, mudra lag, etc. We are assuming the players are the elite here.

*PLEASE also take into account damage buffs such as Ninja's 10%damage AMP debuff.

I'm gonna go with botanist. Miner gives it a run for its money on Ravana though.

Which fight are you referring to in your quest for "absolute best"?

B-B-But, fisher! I'm sure every fisher's a beast in Levi/Bismarck EX.

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Originally Posted by Viar

B-B-But, fisher! I'm sure every fisher's a beast in Levi/Bismarck EX.

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Nope after 3.0 fisher has to cast all it's skills so its 300 DPS behind bot and miner.

On dummy or boss? Because bosses dps per class is extremely inconsistent(spelling)

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Originally Posted by Crazypluto

Nope after 3.0 fisher has to cast all it's skills so its 300 DPS behind bot and miner.

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Awwww.

/10char

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Nope after 3.0 fisher has to cast all it's skills so its 300 DPS behind bot and miner.

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Even after they made Wandering Minnow an instant cast? ;)

Chocobo trainer?

Probably DRG or MNK but ultimately the highest dps potential of a class/job is an irrelevant concept as it is only a potential and the disparity between them is rather small respectively speaking. Varying player ability makes the makes the potential of the classes alone virtually meaningless IMO.

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Even after they made Wandering Minnow an instant cast? ;)

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They made Wandering Minnow instant cast, but they nerfed the DPS of Bait, Cast, Hook and Mooch. Even the Fishers who were Master Baiters agree that Fishers are not able to keep up with Miners or Botanists this expansion.

In before lies and photoshopped screenshots.

It really does depend on the fight though. For example, on Bismark Ex, with all of the adds/movement/lack of target times, summoners should be pushing the top dps. On Ravana, I've heard black mages can push out very high dps. On the final boss of Alexander, it seems like melee dps will win out, etc.

I heard Warriors were pulling 3,000 damage per second with some bursts of 20,000 Fel Cleave (non-crits!)... Or so the legend says.

http://i.imgur.com/oq6DSXr.gif

Against a dummy, seems like DRG, NIN and MNK are all very close to each other with BLM/SMN pretty close behind. My guess would be BRD and MCH have closed the gap some as well (though not sure we have parses of it yet).

On fights with high uptime and low melee mechanics (A4) the melee DPS with higher skill will likely win (from my parses anyway).

If a fight allows BLM to turret and there are melee mechanics, they probably win. If there are melee mechanics AND ranged ones, SMN will win followed by MCH and BRD most likely as they can continue DPSing safely.

Most of this is speculation but really it ends up coming down to individual fights.

I may be wrong but had heard from various people that drg may very well be the higher damage class now?
I cannot confirm it myself as have yet to level my drg past 50

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Originally Posted by Maero

I may be wrong but had heard from various people that drg may very well be the higher damage class now?
I cannot confirm it myself as have yet to level my drg past 50

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I personally haven't parsed below another DPS as DRG (and any other DRG has been since I started parsing, but I only started parsing very recently (like a week), has been primarily random dungeons and has been with pugs on a more casual server (Faerie) but that is my anecdotal evidence

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They made Wandering Minnow instant cast, but they nerfed the DPS of Bait, Cast, Hook and Mooch. Even the Fishers who were Master Baiters agree that Fishers are not able to keep up with Miners or Botanists this expansion.

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Highest DPS and wicked cool hats?!? Screw it, I am quitting fishing and switching to botanist.

My wife's best friends husbands college roommates son from his first marriage, said WHM had the best dps. That's what I heard anyway. But my understanding is 3rd party parses are inaccurate, especially when it comes to dots, so unless you work for SE, no one knows s**t.

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But my understanding is 3rd party parses are inaccurate, especially when it comes to dots, so unless you work for SE, no one knows s**t.

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That is partially true, they are more accurate than they used to be back when got their numbers from the combat log but they are not 100% accurate still.

But guys, we're all forgetting about culinarian's hasty touch!

SMN is incredibly strong in most of the current endgame fights - especially if they can get good Banes in.

For single target DPS, I'm pretty sure it's DRG atm though.

As far as youtube videos of parses goes, drg is top atm with ~1200, mnk and nin are about the same with ~1150, blm is in the ~1100 department together with smn. Though note that these are dummy parses with the jobs parsing solo, every job will parse higher with a nin in the party (trick attack), nin will put out considerably higher numbers with a war doing slashing debuff for them and blm/smn will parse higher with foes. Brd and mch are also definitely viable dps classes and will shine in high movement fights.

In real content I think smn is the overall 'best' dps class right now, since they can maintain very high single target dps while moving/doing mechanics, they have good burst in HW and on top of that are practically kings of aoe now.

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Against a dummy, seems like DRG, NIN and MNK are all very close to each other with BLM/SMN pretty close behind. My guess would be BRD and MCH have closed the gap some as well (though not sure we have parses of it yet).

On fights with high uptime and low melee mechanics (A4) the melee DPS with higher skill will likely win (from my parses anyway).

If a fight allows BLM to turret and there are melee mechanics, they probably win. If there are melee mechanics AND ranged ones, SMN will win followed by MCH and BRD most likely as they can continue DPSing safely.

Most of this is speculation but really it ends up coming down to individual fights.

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On a dummy fight, SMN is last place due to subpar ST sustained DPS, but BLM can get really close to melee numbers.

Over 1400 DPS for SMN when everything aligns right:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...pressor_video/

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Over 1400 DPS for SMN when everything aligns right:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...pressor_video/

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Thats not a DUMMY fight. Thats a fight with two targets with large amounts of HP, and adds to bane/painflare off of. So yes SMN will do well in that fight, but thats not a single target dummy fight like i was talking about.

Well, like others have said, it depends on the fight.

Although, since you asked for the highest DPS, the answer is simple, DRG...

In different fights, the DPS will vary between the jobs, but on a single target, the DPS can never be higher than a DRG in a perfect scenario.

Alex(normal) is pretty forgiving for melee DPS, so they should be on top, but we don't know how the mechanics will work exactly in Alex(Savage), where it really matters.

It should be mentioned though, that DRG's new rotation that gives them that high DPS, doesn't work in many cases, and you have to hold on to skills to not lose even more DPS. MNK on the other side, doesn't use much of their new abilities unless there are some mechanics to dodge etc, and NIN just doesn't get as affected by mechanics as MNK and DRG. So unless you know you have 100% up-time on a boss (even Alex F4 can screw a DRG with getting sucked away), DRG lose some of that DPS advantage, MNK will gain some relative DPS, and NIN just adapts to some fights better and keeps much of their DPS. Overall, all melee are pretty close in real fights and striking dummies never tells the whole story.

In very specific fights where melee gets screwed while ranged can stand still (and I mean really still) for a long periods of time, BLM is the winner, but usually in raids(not accounting for AoE), melee DPS jobs are on top, so if you're interesting in highest DPS, look at melee... At least if they keep the trend they've had now with FCoB and Alex(assuming savage doesn't change it completely).

Highest dps is the class that provides whatever buff/debuff your group is missing at the time.

Well if you watch this video. Bard is doing similar dps than monk and boost casters dps greatly with foe + battlevoice so I would say Bard increase more raid dps than everybody else. Drg is good too also because disembowel is pretty god like buff for bards and mch. Ninja is good too if you run without warrior and give slash buff to pld and drk. It is still pretty hard compare dps since current content is kinda joke. We should wait alex hard/savage until compare anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwfcTXtjXKA

Threads like these are always pointless it's usually cus the OP just wants to roll the top dps class at the time.

And someone wanting to do that is.....bad?

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Threads like these are always pointless it's usually cus the OP just wants to roll the top dps class at the time.

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You may not like it if that's his intent, but that wouldn't make it pointless.

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Threads like these are always pointless it's usually cus the OP just wants to roll the top dps class at the time.

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If the point is to find out which class has top DPS so they can play the top DPS class, doesn't that automatically prevent it from being pointless?