Alexander Normal Gear Order

Since the question is bound to come up:

Week 1: Feetx2,Legsx2,Slaying Ring (Feet Done)
Week 2: Waist,Slaying Accessory,Legsx2 (Waist, Legs Done)
Week 3: Slaying Accessory, Headx2, Hands (Head Done)
Week 4: slaying/accessory,Hands, Done/Body (Hands Done plus all 4 slaying accessories)

The body is terrible and we'll have AF body within 4 weeks. (released in two weeks, and more then likely two weeks of tomes)

If you need VIT accessories just use the i180s.


Head - Turn 2 and 3
Strength +53 Vitality +54 Accuracy +47 Skill Speed +33

Chest - Turn 4
Strength +86 Vitality +87 Parry +54 Skill Speed +77

Hands - Turn 3 and 4
Strength +53 Vitality +54 Parry +47 Accuracy +33

Waist - Turn 1
Strength +40 Vitality +40 Accuracy +36 Critical Hit Rate +25

Legs - Turn 3 and 4
Strength +86 Vitality +87 Accuracy +77 Critical Hit Rate +54

Feet - Turn 1 and 2
Strength +53 Vitality +54 Critical Hit Rate +47 Determination +32

Accessories - Turn 1 and 2

Damn I messed up. Raage.

I took accessory, head, and chest piece so far. Just need a piece from 2 this week now.

I just went through blind and just rolled... bad idea.

Wouldn't that make week 1 5 drops?

Umm.whats this again?

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Originally Posted by Kiteless

Wouldn't that make week 1 5 drops?

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You get a free accessory for clearing.

I hope this answers my question about if all tokens drop from all 4 floors, or if they're dropped on specific floors only. That was going to take quite a while to gear up if it was.

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Originally Posted by Shadow12000

I hope this answers my question about if all tokens drop from all 4 floors, or if they're dropped on specific floors only. That was going to take quite a while to gear up if it was.

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They drop on specific floors.

Regarding the chestpiece... we don't have enough information to determine that it's a good idea to ignore it. Here's a few facts:

1. With the sole exception of Law Gear, every single Tank Chestpiece buyable with Tomes has had Parry on it.
2. In the last 2.5 raids(second coil, final coil, alex normal), the Chestpiece for Tanks has been locked behind the last fight of the raid.
3. If a piece of Blue Gear shares its look with another piece exactly with the sole difference of being dyable, it is due to an upgrade to the original undyable piece.
4. It has been stated that Alex Savage gear will be physically identical to Alex Normal gear with the differences being a higher item level and being dyable.

Here's some possible theories we can concoct due to this.

A. The Esoterics Chestpieces for all three Tanks stand a high chance of having Parry.
B. There is a possibility that Savage Alex gear will be obtained by upgrading Normal Alex gear through items obtained from the Savage fights. I feel like the "Prototype" prefix is also evidence for this, as it screams for an upgraded version that changes the prefix to indicate a finished product.
C. The Tank Chestpiece(and possibly every chestpiece) will likely be gated behind the last fight of Alex Savage.

Therefore, it's probably a good idea to get chestpiece tokens during our first two weeks here. Just in case.

Time is the consideration:

Alex Normal
Week 1: Alex Feet
Week 2: Alex Waist and Legs
Alex Hard + New Tomes
Week 3: Alex Head
Week 4: AF Body and Alex Hands

So after 4 weeks your entire left side is i190+. Assumes tome body takes 2 weeks like it has in the past.

While there are a lot of savage upgrade theories we don't know for sure how it will work. But this method will have tanks in full i190+ plus any savage gear/upgrades.

And yes the body will probably have parry it will also probably be i200 and instantly replace alex NM body.

And if you start collecting body now you won't have legs in time for Savage and legs are a very good piece. My method gives tanks the 3 best Left side Alex NM items in time for Savage plus 2 additional accessories.

Actually I'd have to disagree. . .

For a Two week plan (Savage ready min/max with little expectation of going back in normal during the lockout)

Week 1 T1 Belt, T2 Feet, T3 Head, T4 Hands
Week 2 T1 Accessory, T2 Feet, T3 Head, T4 Hands

This yields the best results if you're just holding off until esoteric. Week three it will fall behind though.

Personally I feel this is better over a three week period, (Savage ready still but requires a few extra lockouts of alexander to be better than the prior suggestion)

Week 1 T1 Feet, T2 Head, T3 Legs, T4 Legs
Week 2 T1 Feet, T2 Head, T3 Legs, T4 Legs
Week 3 T1 Waist, T2 Accessory, T3 Hands, T4 Hands

Over a four week period it ends at the same position the OP's does.

Week 4 T1 Accessory T2 Accessory

The primary advantage of this over OP's plan is over a three week period you'll get all of your left side first. Otherwise you're sacrificing VIT and DEF unnecessarily in the early weeks.

Admittedly we don't know what Savage will drop either if it's similar to sands system and both the body/legs use the same piece to upgrade as the other pieces then legs become more enticing. If Alexander body upgrades into a higher ilvl than esoteric than this going to be off because of how much STR is weighted compared to secondary's currently and you'd want to follow the five week plan.

Regardless either of the two as a tank is the ideal route if your focus is esoteric's and savage.

Havent had a chance to log on yet but how do you get a free accessory for clearing?

Also doesnt the last turn have a change to drop an actual piece along with tokens?

Thank you Sir Taint!

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Originally Posted by PerihVashai

Actually I'd have to disagree. . .

For a Two week plan (Savage ready min/max with little expectation of going back in normal during the lockout)

Week 1 T1 Belt, T2 Feet, T3 Head, T4 Hands
Week 2 T1 Accessory, T2 Feet, T3 Head, T4 Hands

This yields the best results if you're just holding off until esoteric. Week three it will fall behind though.

Personally I feel this is better over a three week period, (Savage ready still but requires a few extra lockouts of alexander to be better than the prior suggestion)

Week 1 T1 Feet, T2 Head, T3 Legs, T4 Legs
Week 2 T1 Feet, T2 Head, T3 Legs, T4 Legs
Week 3 T1 Waist, T2 Accessory, T3 Hands, T4 Hands

Over a four week period it ends at the same position the OP's does.

Week 4 T1 Accessory T2 Accessory

The primary advantage of this over OP's plan is over a three week period you'll get all of your left side first. Otherwise you're sacrificing VIT and DEF unnecessarily in the early weeks.

Admittedly we don't know what Savage will drop either if it's similar to sands system and both the body/legs use the same piece to upgrade as the other pieces then legs become more enticing. If Alexander body upgrades into a higher ilvl than esoteric than this going to be off because of how much STR is weighted compared to secondary's currently and you'd want to follow the five week plan.

Regardless either of the two as a tank is the ideal route if your focus is esoteric's and savage.

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Math~

Two Week plan:

Perih
DEF: 78
STR: 18
VIT: 21
Accessory: 7
Total Stats: 46

"Best" Two Week Plan
DEF: 89
STR: 19
VIT: 22
Accessory: 11
Total Stats:52

Taint
DEF:75
STR: 17
VIT: 19
Accessory: 11
Total Stats: 47

Three Week Plan:
Not listing the best two week plan since that's going to fall off hard due to lack of having legs.

Perih
DEF: 121
STR: 27
VIT: 31
Accessory: 11
Total Stats:69

Taint:
DEF: 98
STR: 22
VIT: 25
Accessory: 15
Total Stats: 62



And Four week plan is a moot point as we've come full circle.

edit: The stats are listed in terms of the primary gains from 180, barring the first accessory which is listed as a stat gain from 170.

That's a good counter.

My counter to your counter would be Feet,Waist,Legs are the only 3 drops even worth their salt and the three you will want for starting savage. But there is also nothing stopping a group from doing week 3 normal before starting savage. There also will probably be crafted gear for 3.05 that surpasses the head,hands,body slots since their secondaries are lacking.

Excellent feedback, thanks.

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Originally Posted by SirTaint

You get a free accessory for clearing.

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but we dont know is its a one time thing or if its a weekly like the ct weekly. If the latter is true then I guess I can get vit accessories too. Im not planning on getting 190 vit accessories outside of the ring since I highly doubt the hp cap for Alexander normal is that high.

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Originally Posted by Donjo

Regarding the chestpiece... we don't have enough information to determine that it's a good idea to ignore it. Here's a few facts:

1. With the sole exception of Law Gear, every single Tank Chestpiece buyable with Tomes has had Parry on it.

Here's some possible theories we can concoct due to this.

A. The Esoterics Chestpieces for all three Tanks stand a high chance of having Parry.

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Thanks SirTaint, Donjo.

I'm curious if with the removal of additional Parry effects on STR, they somehow made the actual "+ Parry" Stat more useful?

Just wishful thinking, but if so, perhaps we can get some tests w/ stacking a bunch of +Parry on the new Alexander drops to see if it ever changes beyond the flat 20%?

If not, I'm baffled, because Yoshi P just put in a totally useless stat. :confused:

Can someone clarify what is going on here? What do you mean gear order?

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Originally Posted by Timat

Can someone clarify what is going on here? What do you mean gear order?

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Alexander has 4 floors each drop tokens. You may acquire 1 token per week per floor.

Body and legs require 4 of their respective tokens.
Head,Hands,Feet require 2.
Waist and accessories require 1.

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Originally Posted by SirTaint

Alexander has 4 floors each drop tokens. You may acquire 1 token per week per floor.

Body and legs require 4 of their respective tokens.
Head,Hands,Feet require 2.
Waist and accessories require 1.

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I see, so this is a discussion on which tokens to roll for when?

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Originally Posted by SirTaint

You get a free accessory for clearing.

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Whuuut, seriously? Though I haven't checked my invent after each turn...

Personally making it so I can get everything but legs on Week 4, so I can glamour that beautiful armor.

Have to agree with Sir Taint's list. Any of the other left side pieces will be hopefully replaced by better crafting or esoteric gear quickly. Legs, Feet, and Belt also have a decent chance of being BiS as well.

Personally, I took 2x accessories (plus an additional free accessory), leg, leg this week and will follow it up with feet, feet, leg, leg next week.

Its important to maintain your minimum skill speed for 9 GCD berserk as well as an accuracy buffer for savage.

I also, do not believe the free accessory will be a weekly occurrence because there is no repeatable red exclamation mark which usually acts as a placeholder for weekly quests.

Good luck to everyone in the coming weeks.

I am personnally going for the plan where you can have every thing during the week of savage release (except head and body) then go for esoteric body and week after head piece from Alexander So that during the week following savage release i am full i190+

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Originally Posted by Belandrus

I also, do not believe the free accessory will be a weekly occurrence because there is no repeatable red exclamation mark which usually acts as a placeholder for weekly quests.

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I haven't cleared it yet cause stuff came up yesterday, but all I'm hearing is that you get a free bolt for clearing, but see some people surprised to hear this. Is this from a quest reward, or does it just get placed in your inventory. If it's the latter, then a weekly reward isn't ruled out yet. If it's the former, then it's not likely.

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Originally Posted by Shadow12000

I haven't cleared it yet cause stuff came up yesterday, but all I'm hearing is that you get a free bolt for clearing, but see some people surprised to hear this. Is this from a quest reward, or does it just get placed in your inventory. If it's the latter, then a weekly reward isn't ruled out yet. If it's the former, then it's not likely.

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Its part of the story quests.

After you clear Floor 4 you do some chatting quests and the last one gives you a bolt

I took the belt, 1 foot token, 2 leg tokens and the complimentary slaying ring this week, but my buy order works out pretty much the same way after that.

u will never know what happends in hard mode so i prefer to take vit accs first cuz u will get the dps accs faster when u have all the other stuff ;) i hope i can play 3 str 2vit after we know the new fights.if we can use full str the fight will be to easy and i cant believe this will happend or better i hope this will not happend ;)
btw i love full str^^

Honestly, I don't think VIT accessories from NM are a good choice. Unless the HP check is absurdly high, Law VIT accessories should do the job just as well, and if you can slot any of those accessories to STR then you'd be better off with the i190 ones.

Personally I think both of Perih's orders are the best options. Feet + Head + Hands + 3 accessories over 2 weeks or Feet + Head + Hands + Waist + Legs + 2 accessories over 3 weeks. That said, I think any order where you get 2 pieces and some accessories over 2 weeks is fine - you'll have a full set of everything by 5 weeks regardless.