Stay small MCH community: Praise based YoshiP

Long story short. MCH doesn't need to be changed. YoshiP knows what he's talking about. Get good MCH community. http://www.twitch.tv/haxetc/c/6932132/https://youtu.be/nuIwAit_yCw 892DPS in Ravana EX fulltime GB.

One guy fed astrologian buffs and gets lucky in an easy primal clearly is the perfect case to prove machinist is good depite 95%% of the MCH players doing staggeringly less DPS.


But for me it isn't even the DPS that I want buffed. It is the utility. It is dismantle and rendmind that I want more attention to, as well as I wish that the overcharge for turrets debuff had a larger effect- considering how Bard's can keep up Foe's requiem muchhhh longer and on demand.

I wouldn't care about DPS if we actually offered the utility to make up for it.


Slapping mp/tp regain and giving them many subpar skills that have nearly unnoticeable effects does not a utility class make.

WTF he wasnt fed anything. Put your eyes on the video and not on your keyboard to complain and maybe you'll see the class isnt that horrible. I don'twant to say my famous quote, but serious, "Goodness needs to get gotten"

I see the mch ending at 781 compared to the 961mnk. Still about 200 difference. Idk, is that supposed to be good?

Add the turret and he's at 900.

I somehow doubt this is repeatable all the time. There are 10 of thousand of mch out there and only 1 person hit 890? Can we be certain this is not cherry picking?

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Originally Posted by Xellos2099

I somehow doubt this is repeatable all the time. There are 10 of thousand of mch out there and only 1 person hit 890? Can we be certain this is not cherry picking?

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Perhaps it's because it's a brand new class and people are still figuring out optimal play.

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Originally Posted by Odowla

Add the turret and he's at 900.

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ok i see the rook closing at 106 so about 887. That's better, but still curious how stable this job is.

Another question is: is this kind of dps achievable in a normal pug setting? It is more likely it is preset pt that is in a perfect storm.

You have no idea how happy this thread makes me.

Not gonna pretend I know anything about MCH but I hear it's highly RNG based.

This guy just get lucky?

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Originally Posted by Xellos2099

Another question is: is this kind of dps achievable in a normal pug setting? It is more likely it is preset pt that is in a perfect storm.

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That's not how class balance works, I'm sorry.

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Originally Posted by Jamez82

This guy just get lucky?

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Don't want to watch every skill he does but no, he doesn't seem that extraordinary lucky. He fired several Split Shots until it procced. Seems normal. But yea, Machinist is a little slot machine when your cooldowns aren't ready.

Thanks for sharing the video.^^
It shows that machinist do deal damage and that you can do that with GB active.

OH MY GOD THOSE MACHINIST BUFFS!

http://puu.sh/iQ5bL/7434ad2ecd.png

This is not a one-off. I see MCHs all the time who regularly put out 800 in dungeons in dungeons as well. Couldn't tell you how as mine is only level 46 at the moment, but it is doable and it's consistent.

EDIT: So those buffs do look nice! I still want a shorter cooldown on Rapid Fire, but hey.

Same thing used to happen with summoner, mch is fine. I love this game, with certain classes you're either really good or really bad, and NEWSFLASH MOST PEOPLE ARE BAD!

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Originally Posted by Mog77

Same thing used to happen with summoner, mch is fine. I love this game, with certain classes you're either really good or really bad, and NEWSFLASH MOST PEOPLE ARE BAD!

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Four hours of Bismarck EX in potatofinder certainly cements that fact. :'(

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Originally Posted by Jamez82

Not gonna pretend I know anything about MCH but I hear it's highly RNG based.

This guy just get lucky?

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Nope, this is a 5mins + run. For Ravana EX the shorter the run the lesser downtime you have to deal with and thus the better your DPS numbers.

You need a good group and of course make good use of the burst phases where Ravana takes 2x damage to up your deeps.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

Nope, this is a 5mins + run. For Ravana EX the shorter the run the lesser downtime you have to deal with and thus the better your DPS numbers.

You need a good group and of course make good use of the burst phases where Ravana takes 2x damage to up your deeps.

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Similar to how those two black mages had 1000+ DPS in this fight the other day.

Comparatively this is only double (probably a bit under) what BRD was able to do prior to 3.0 (in-general probably less if put against a similar burn/buff/vuln situation), if the rest of the other jobs are double as well, there was no increase in damage. You're putting out the same numbers but being forced into a stance that is supposed to increase your damage, otherwise why have it?

This is the same as posting a parse against bad roulette players, I wouldn't brag about it.

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Originally Posted by seekified

Four hours of Bismarck EX in potatofinder certainly cements that fact. :'(

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This also happened to me, when we were done a potato said they were proud of our accomplishment. I think it's time to make fries.