Ending MSQ in 3.0 Spoilers

Did anyone else feel like the expansion felt short? MSQ wise anyways? I feel like after

We took out King Thordan and his Knights Twelve that there should've been something else. With Nidhogg ressurected and free once more, and the fact we left the Empire in Azys Lla with their ship repairs I feel like there is still so much more we had to do. As well as find the remaining Scions. I know there is room for all these to be addressed in the coming patches, but I felt like at least a few more of these should've been addressed in 3.0.

What do you guys think?

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Just clear it up. Been playing since Beta Phase 2. Im aware of the patches that come very 3-4 months. Just thought a little more should've been included in 3.0 was all.

We're not done yet.

We still have an entire expansion's worth of story patches to go.

Are they adding additional story content? I may have misunderstood some of the information but I thought they were just opening Alexander which to my understanding was the new raid content. Is there anything else coming?

It didn't really feel short, but keep in mind this is also a MMORPG so there is a lot lot lot lot LOT more content to come.


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And through the ending ...which with the ascian fusion and everything and the fight against thoridan... I just... I am still kinda finding it badass.
There is just SOOOOOOOO MUCH MORE TO EXPLORE NOW WITH THE STORY.

Like I mean I love raids and shit but the story is so captivating at this point I am wanting MOREEEEEEEEEE

Well if we assume they keep up the "add story roughly every three months in big patches" schedule they have been doing, then we're definitely not done yet.

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Originally Posted by SovereignAegis

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There is just SOOOOOOOO MUCH MORE TO EXPLORE NOW WITH THE STORY.
the story is so captivating at this point I am wanting MOREEEEEEEEEE

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Yeah the Story for 3.0 has been so good. I couldn't get enough of it.

They're saving that all for 3.X era.

After all part of the reason why 2.X era story was a bit bland was because there was nothing for the story to follow up on in 2.0.

With 3.0 ending, SE has a bunch of things they can cover through out 3.X era.

So we have...
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1) Garlean Empire and their rising power now.

2) Ishgard development as part of the Eorzean Alliance.

3) Development of peace between Dravania and Ishgard

4) The Warriors of Darkness

5) Nidhogg's return and maybe saving Estinien from his possession.

6) Hunting down Ilberd and the Crystal Braves that sided with him.

7) Finding the missing Scions.

ya it is a lot of plot to cover but it gives them something to follow up with 3.0 storyline.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

So we have...
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1) Garlean Empire and their rising power now.
2) Ishgard development as part of the Eorzean Alliance.
3) Development of peace between Drivania and Ishgard
4) The Warriors of Darkness
5) Nidhogg's return
6) Hunting down Ilberd and the Crystal Braves that sided with him.
7) Finding the missing Scions.

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And

Possibly going to the moon!

So exciting!

Scions , garlean , Warrior of Darkness , Ascians ---> idk how SE will put THAT much lore/content in next updates . Cause pre 2.5 updates story was good , but totally awesome for me was 2.0 and 2.5 only , 2.1/2.2/2.3 was more like some fillers ;(

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Originally Posted by Vladislav

Scions , garlean , Warrior of Darkness , Ascians ---> idk how SE will put THAT much lore/content in next updates . Cause pre 2.5 updates story was good , but totally awesome for me was 2.0 and 2.5 only , 2.1/2.2/2.3 was more like some fillers ;(

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Maybe they may make 3.X MSQ longer than 2.X MSQ.

Ya not many people enjoyed 2.X MSQ due to the tedious quests they had the WoL do but 3.0 provides actual plot to follow for 3.X and a lot of it. So 3.X MSQ has some focus that certainly may require a slightly biggger MSQ than 2.X MSQ updates.

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Originally Posted by Chukkaque

Are they adding additional story content? I may have misunderstood some of the information but I thought they were just opening Alexander which to my understanding was the new raid content. Is there anything else coming?

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they add big content patches every 3 months.. look how much story was added to ARR MSQ each patch.. same will happen in HW

I feel the opposite. Heavensward MSQ was actually a lot longer than I expected. And I think they left it at a perfect spot to continue with the tri-monthly updates. Immediate issue with the Archbishop was resolved. Primals were dealt with. Two, count them two, Ascians were permanently destroyed. And Garlond is temporarily out of Eorzea's hair.

Most likely in the first major update, the main two concerns will be dealing with Estinien/Nidhogg and dealing with the Empire. If they do a 24 man raid, it will probably be something to do with working against the Empire in Azys Lla.

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Originally Posted by Vladislav

Scions , garlean , Warrior of Darkness , Ascians ---> idk how SE will put THAT much lore/content in next updates . Cause pre 2.5 updates story was good , but totally awesome for me was 2.0 and 2.5 only , 2.1/2.2/2.3 was more like some fillers ;(

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They likely won't resolve everything within the 3.X arc. Remember 2.0 introduced several story elements that still haven't been addressed and the 2.X series introduced a lot more (the dark crystal, the disappearance of the Isle of Val, etc.) There were a lot of people back then who actually believed we would defeat all the ascians and Zodiark before the release of the expansion...

Personally I think we'll find another member of the Scions each patch whilst primarily dealing with the Garleans in Azys Lla and figuring out how to defend against Nidhogg (i.e. find a way to use Omega). I think the Warriors of Darkness will be a peripheral threat for now and likely won't be resolved within this patch cycle.

I felt like a lot more happened in 50-60 than 1-50 (so not counting 50 patch content).
There was no filler, and I was surprised how much happened in that space since it was so concise.

I'm excited for the upcoming patch story content, but I definitely didn't feel like "Huh? That's all?" by the end.
Just the opposite really, they went past my expectations.

Don't forget that we still have to discover that Tataru is evil!

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Originally Posted by SecretCrowds

Don't forget that we still have to discover that Tataru is evil!

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Can we join her evil crusade?

Don't forget, A Realm Reborn's storyline had to cover 50 levels whereas Heavensward covered 10 levels. Also, ARR's storyline did two particular things; it (re)established your character as the Warrior of Light, and also really folded in all of the 1.0 storyline in with the new 2.0 storyline. So, there is definitely a lot more storyline to cover during ARR's progression, but HW certainly has opened up the plot doors for future content.

I haven't seen anything specific about Alexander also moving the storyline forward just yet, though I suspect at the very least there'll be some kind of Crystal Tower-esque sidequest series we have to do to unlock it, plus any accompanying new quests they may have added. Storyline may just be a part of it!

Besides ... Alexander was already notioned at after the credits rolled.

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Originally Posted by Nikoshae

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Alexander is going to be a Side Storyline like Coil so it won't involve the MSQ in 3.X era.

The new 24 member raid was confirmed to be arriving in 3.1 and will not be related to past FF game. It will be something new tied only to FF14.

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Originally Posted by SecretCrowds

Don't forget that we still have to discover that Tataru is evil!

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lol her evilness if tricking people to feel sory for her when does the teary eyed puppy eyes face

I guess my only context for this kind of thing is FFXI, but by comparison I feel like we've had tons of story right out of the gate in 3.0. The story took a decently long time (and if it took much longer I can't see them making it a barrier to endgame), and it felt like a complete story, but not tying up all the ends. We've still got ways to go.

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Originally Posted by Lisotte

I guess my only context for this kind of thing is FFXI, but by comparison I feel like we've had tons of story right out of the gate in 3.0. The story took a decently long time (and if it took much longer I can't see them making it a barrier to endgame), and it felt like a complete story, but not tying up all the ends. We've still got ways to go.

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My only concern with all these plots being left open is if they can balance them out properly.

After all 2.X issue was that it felt the story was just dragging on too longer to get to the major points but it would also be a issue if the story rush too fast through all these plots.

Did y'all forget about The Warring Triad?
That's certainly going to be part of the coming patches... possibly one each for 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3 in place of primals...

I don't know how to do the spoiler cut thing, HERE BE SPOILERS
I think it was a good ending point, and just the right amount of hints for future story patches.

But I do feel the end of the 3.0 MSQ was rather rushed. Putting two such substantial reveals (the Ascian fusion and Thordan's summoning) into what was basically one dungeon (since the Thordan trial is immediately after you finish the dungeon) and on top of that following it up with the Warrior of Darkness reveal soon after really killed a lot of the oomph, and I can see how that can leave people feeling like they aren't 'done enough'. A better paced leadup would have created a more satisfying conclusion of this chapter, I think.

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Originally Posted by TheTen

I don't know how to do the spoiler cut thing, HERE BE SPOILERS
I think it was a good ending point, and just the right amount of hints for future story patches.

But I do feel the end of the 3.0 MSQ was rather rushed. Putting two such substantial reveals (the Ascian fusion and Thordan's summoning) into what was basically one dungeon (since the Thordan trial is immediately after you finish the dungeon) and on top of that following it up with the Warrior of Darkness reveal soon after really killed a lot of the oomph, and I can see how that can leave people feeling like they aren't 'done enough'. A better paced leadup would have created a more satisfying conclusion of this chapter, I think.

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I think it was rushed but I'm not surprised. The storyline in 3.0 I would say is "good for an MMO." It feels very beholden to its gameplay, treads the same waters that plenty of stories before it has trod, and is full of fantasy cliches, the kind of which SE is so fond of putting in their games.

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Originally Posted by Chukkaque

Did anyone else feel like the expansion felt short? MSQ wise anyways?

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What in the world are you on about?
When this game launched, did we have any of the Realm Awoken quests? No.
When we were working on the Realm Awoken MSQ did the Through the Maelstrom stuff exist? No
Then came the Defenders of Eorzea > Dreams of Ice and finally 2.55 Before the Fall ... all over the course of a year and a half.

Yes there's more coming for heaven sake

Do not forget that there's the potential of the Warring Triads returning too. I believe in this game they're considered Primals too so...

Bring it on, with a "Battle to the Death" remix.