How the hell do you level 50-60 a second time?

I was looking forward to leveling all three tanks to 60 for HW. But I've put that on hold for now. Why? Leveling in HW is a horrifyingly painful experience when you're out of quests.

Has anyone found any good methods? The only one I've found is, ironically, grinding N Than fates

Grind Nthan, do daily, do dungeons for hours on end...That's about it.
Food check and 50% from your first 60 and your FC exp bonus helps.
Not sure how good NThan levels you now. I say try it to 51 and dungeon from there,

Do the big leves to 51, then dungeons. I levled drg with the main story, then PLD to 60 fairly quickly just doing the dungeons.

Its not that bad.

What I am doing is just slowly leveling it with rest exp.

Ends up being about 150% bonus exp from trash mobs and boss battles and just dungeon grind it out. Almost 56 while putting in next to no grinding in.

Well i've been doing dungeons quite a bit. I leveled in northan thanalan until 51 so i could get into the first HW dungeon no prob. After that it's not as slow as you'd think. Not sure how i feel about roulette, i think you should get EXP from trash mobs in the high level and main scenario dungeons as they don't give very much EXP at the end.

Don't forget to do as many hunt from the hunt board as you can there is 3 daily list of mobs to hunt each with 5 type of monsters to hunt doing these give you in total as much XP as 15 quests, you can also do the story roulette at lvl53 it gave me around 200.000 XP for completing it.

fates in Nthan till 51, then roulettes every day and dungeon grinding, and yeah it can be painful, just don't push yourself too hard

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Originally Posted by Tila

I was looking forward to leveling all three tanks to 60 for HW. But I've put that on hold for now. Why? Leveling in HW is a horrifyingly painful experience when you're out of quests.

Has anyone found any good methods? The only one I've found is, ironically, grinding N Than fates

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Tanks and Healers have always had the option of ... y'know doing the Dungeons. DPS are stuck with FATE's, Leve's and possibly hunts if you find them.

Personally I was doing Marks on my WHM, got it to 52 this way while I was finishing Main Story on my 60 SMN.
Did 2 dungeons and got to 53, did the 53 dungeon 2 times and guildhest daily 2 times with a few more hunts and I am past 54.
I plan to continue doing this and lvling WHM now that my BOT is 60.

As for queue times, i find my SMN takes just as long as WHM to get into a dungeon since 3.0 opened. (About 5 mins)

I seen quite a few players leveling 50+ in NT.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Tanks and Healers have always had the option of ... y'know doing the Dungeons. DPS are stuck with FATE's, Leve's and possibly hunts if you find them.

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My 53 MNK queues so far have been around five minutex maximum for everything but High roulette (including the HW dungeons). Low level is sometimes instant with in-progress group.

Roulette, Dungeons and FATEs. The new zones with the armory bonus give fantastic exp if you put a group together. Dravanian Hinterlands gave me 33k-38k per FATE from 58-60.

Why are you complaining about this now? You level the same way you have always leveled secondary classes just like did with ARR. DR, Fates, dungeons, leves and hunt marks/hunt logs too but now at least you have a 100% EXP increase as opposed to a 50% one used to get when leveling a second class. Another alternative method is instead of leveling all the classes on a single character, you make secondary characters which is something I did and worked well in terms of having the option of additionally leveling through questing on multiple characters/classes and with the added benefit of gaining all the quest rewards all over again which can be sold to make reasonable amount of gil each time on each character.

Dungeons and the daily mark bills or if you can stand it Northern Thanalan FATEs. Dungeons aren't too bad with rested and the gear drops are pretty good to gear up, too. You'll end up doing around 5-7 dungeons per level.

Only problem is you'll be doing tons of the same dungeons for each job you level.

If you don't have rested, I'm not sure. I guess the roulettes, but the EXP isn't that great except maybe the low roulette and trials but those two together don't move the bar much in the latter levels and have no at level gear drops.

Ah, rested EXP is excellent. However, if you play a lot like I do, you can't always rely on rested EXP - especially if you're feeling 'quick' about getting your secondary job to level 60. Also, try your best to complete your daily roulettes - whether it be high lvl, low lvl and trial, as these will give you a decent amount of EXP. Next, and this applies mostly to the DPS; go to Northern Thanalan and spam fates whilst you're in a dungeon queue. If you're a healer, then you can pretty much opt do either since the healer/tank queues are exceptionally quick.

I've got war to 56 and monk halfway through 57. I'm at a point where I have to focus the quest XP into monk to keep it going, but I don't think its terrible trying to get a second class up to 60. Now a third class up to 60, that is another story entirely. Not that I really could afford to do so with the inventory system they currently have implemented. I hardly have enough room with all the gear I saved up for vanity from pre-heavensward content.

Daily hunts and Dungeons, that seems to be the best way.

Almost got a 2nd job to 60 now without feeling like I've grinded anything.

(1) Roulettes once a day (high, low, trials, main scenario).
(2) Daily clan hunt mark bills from the forgotten knight.
(3) Weekly challenge log.
(4) Occasional FATEs or joining friends in dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

Almost got a 2nd job to 60 now without feeling like I've grinded anything.

(1) Roulettes once a day (high, low, trials, main scenario).
(2) Daily clan hunt mark bills from the forgotten knight.
(3) Weekly challenge log.
(4) Occasional FATEs or joining friends in dungeons.

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Really this is all you got atm. Only thing missing is that hopefully you skipped some sidequests along the way. But really as a tank it only takes a few dungeon runs per level. 5-6 isn't really a lot.

drk to 60 off story quests dungeons/challenge roulette and a lot of side quests but I'm really dragging my feet and getting burnt out for ninja grind to 60:(

with that said my alt is 54 war haven't done any side quests really apart for the one for dusk vigil everything else has been msq,challenges, roulette etc so if i get the urge to lvl another class to 60 ill have all them wonderful side quests i can do:)

I'm really surprised about the number of players complaining about exp. I have a 60, my miner at 58, and two level 53s. Do your daily roulettes, do your daily hunt logs with your lower levels, take advantage of a dungeon when you can get chain exp, do leves. It's not hard/tedious to level. This is one of the easiest leveling experiences I've had in an expansion.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Tanks and Healers have always had the option of ... y'know doing the Dungeons. DPS are stuck with FATE's, Leve's and possibly hunts if you find them.

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Cute. Yeah, you can do dungeons too. But, I'm sure your comment was some passive-aggressive attempt at blaming SE for DPS queue times. You have the option of fast queue times as well, if you wanted to take a little responsibility and be a tank or a healer.

Grind FATEs in Northern Thanalan with all the bots. Even with maximum HP scaling, the FATEs are still done in -30sec and are worth 21 K XP (with the +50% armory bonus).

You can rack 300-500 K XP per hour this way. Good luck getting more with FATEs in Western Coerthas (+ travel time) considering mobs in 3.0 areas have the same if not MORE HP than maximum scaled FATEs in N.Than (with 200-300 players beating on them)
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1st job going slowly but I'm ok with that. I'm doing miniable side quest just main story + fates and roulette.
2nd job will be Quests + fates and roulette.
3rd job thanx god for bonus.


Sadlly RL happened at the same time HW came out. So 15 hours play time in last 2 weeks.

Dungeons ,dailies and the large leves

lol I leveled my secondary (BRD) in N Thanalan to 54 in 1 day, just gotta keep at it and you'll get there ;)

DPS queue times haven actually been pretty reasonable since DRK and AST came out (and MCH earned a perhaps unfair reputation as being a bad job to play.) It's been 5-10 minutes for most 30-59 content during primetime. For a chunk of 300K in 30 minutes, that makes it comparable to N. Than fates easily - AND you get free gear for doing the 51+ dungeons.

DPS queues are only horrible for 60 EX roulette because all the bandwagon DRKs and ASTs get to 60 and then go level their DPS class XD

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Originally Posted by Catwho

DPS queues are only horrible for 60 EX roulette because all the bandwagon DRKs and ASTs get to 60 and then go level their DPS class XD

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I can testify for this lol

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Originally Posted by Tila

I was looking forward to leveling all three tanks to 60 for HW. But I've put that on hold for now. Why? Leveling in HW is a horrifyingly painful experience when you're out of quests.

Has anyone found any good methods? The only one I've found is, ironically, grinding N Than fates

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If you are not in a hurry, you can high level roulette and expansion hunt log, both are daily and give good completion exp.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Tanks and Healers have always had the option of ... y'know doing the Dungeons. DPS are stuck with FATE's, Leve's and possibly hunts if you find them.

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56 SMN doing the dungeons....

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Tanks and Healers have always had the option of ... y'know doing the Dungeons. DPS are stuck with FATE's, Leve's and possibly hunts if you find them.

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I don't know about that, i levelled my WHM to 60 first but now i'm working on my ninja and i've gotten from 50-58 in 3 days with pretty much sub 6 min wait times on dungeons.

It should really be 100% experience gain for 50-60 on your second job..
180 fates for level 60 is ridic!

I'm waiting for them to add exp to all the level 50 dungeons.
At that point it will be much more fun.

I understand the decision, but it is still aggravating.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Tanks and Healers have always had the option of ... y'know doing the Dungeons. DPS are stuck with FATE's, Leve's and possibly hunts if you find them.

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Lol sure.

You can have your FATEs, meanwhile my BRD is getting Vault queues in 5 minutes on average.

@OP
Its no more painful than leveling a new job 1 - 50 was in ARR. Hell, its even easier now than it was then. Lets review:
-Hunts (300k+)
-FATEs (20k+ at lv50 in Coerthas)
-Daily Roulettes (200k on average from HLR, LLR, MSR then 100k for Trials)
-Leves (23k each at lv50 from Temple Leves)
-Dungeons (Each run nets you a minimum of 100k exp as each boss is worth 30k+ and then trash mobs giving 4 - 8k each) Also, boss XP is affected by Rested, so while rested, an Aery Boss is worth 84k each.

Its not painful. Not even in the slightest ...

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Originally Posted by MysteryNotes

I don't know about that, i levelled my WHM to 60 first but now i'm working on my ninja and i've gotten from 50-58 in 3 days with pretty much sub 6 min wait times on dungeons.

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nah, i'm currently lvling drg and my queue times are around 5mins, there super fast at the moment

The MSQ is an illusion that it is fast. You get large chunks of XP for the MSQ, but with all the running around you have to do, it's not much faster than just running dungeons or doing FATEs.

Dungeons/Daily Roulettes are by far the fastest XP. While you're waiting for a dungeon queue to pop, you can:

-Do FATEs
-Do Levequests
-Do Clan Hunts
-Do Challenge log