Expansion based on Pre-Calamity

Hey Square Enix and Mr. Yoshi P.!

Okay so I have a suggestion hopefully this is the right place. I understand that we all know you have story planned for the next few versions of the game. What about us Legacy players who would like to see how the version we have today came to be? Like allow newer players enjoy the older content via an expansion of some sort. Not with the old battle system, but let us go to the past before all of this all happened. Something like "Wings of the Goddess" in FFXI. Let us explore the OLD world in the new engine etc and allow us legacy and 1.0 players relive the original story before it all came to be and allow the players who joined the game in 2.0 see HOW it came to be. This I feel would be an awesome idea! By the way make some altercations to the main story in some way to keep things interesting since something would have happened to make use NEED to go to the past to prevent anything from changing!

Watch the cutscenes on youtube. What was good they kept, the rest was utter crap.

I am a legacy player so I already know what happened etc. I'm saying for those who HAVEN'T actually "Played it". There is a difference between playing and watching and experiencing the content. I never said it had to be the exact same. I'm saying that the way it should be is we go back to prevent the change or maybe Change the outcome of the Calamity since Legacy Players like myself KNOW what happened and how it could have been prevented if at all possible. This would be a good and awesome thing to do for us who actually enjoyed the original game. But like I said make a twist where the story is able to be changed like how they did it with Warlords of Draenor with WoW. Let us go back to prevent a change from happening with a worse scenario instead of the same thing happening at a much greater disaster is what I am meaning. There is ways where we can do the original content while also having a change to the story in many factors.

I don't know about an expansion, but it would be pretty cool to have to complete a duty that would bring you back to the time of the calamity.

No no! Or at least not yet. Right now that idea comes far too close to Wings of the Goddess for my liking. Time travel is just one staple in Final Fantasy story-telling and before we revisit that again, we should be looking at some of the others which have been under-represented in the MMOs.

I can think of two which I would really enjoy. Space travel, or more specifically travelling to the moon. Previously seen as the origins of monsters and summons as well as a catalyst for many events in the FF stories. The massive open areas could easily be contrasted with the likes of space stations as well as some new beastman/primal architecture. Would probably be a magitek bonanza.

If we look in the opposite direction we may instead look at an Underworld, practically like a whole other world that's been hiding beneath us all this time. In Final Fantasy 4 there was an underworld that was expansive and open on a very similar level to the overworld. Not to mention it housed the dark crystals (a possible link to this supposed Warrior of Darkness?). It need not be all fire-oriented because even in the case of FF4 you had caves which led to seemingly ludicrous places such as the home of summons. We have aether which, like Mako flows through the planet so there's that too. It will be like a new crystal-rush to the beastmen. And it would be interesting to see how these underground expanses link new paths between the city-states.

Well yeah, that's what I want. More prevalent futuristic inspirations or some sort of breach into an underworld filled with rich materials and amazing craftsmanship that's been long forgotten to the overworld. Speaking of craftsmanship and underworlds, playable dwarves.

I think WoW was at one stage going to have an underground expansion, even had a map for one of the zones I believe. would be cool to see something like that, space sounds cool too although i'd give it a while until we start going into space.

I like the ideas for that Cooperal! Would be nice to see those as well!

I played 1.0 but there wasn't even a story at the time. So to play through the story would be cool but maybe just have it as a separate quest chain "Reliving the Past".

I just want to see more of the continent opened up. There is still Ala Mhigo and a few others that would be nice to have access to.

I like this idea alot, as a player who joined in during ARR I missed out on the 1.0 story completely. The writing of XIV is simply fantastic, and just for the story's sake it would be fun to play through the 1.0 main story quests.

If they do show us the time before the calamity, maybe it could be a playable Echo flashback. No time travel needed.

You've got a couple more expacs before we are desperate enough for a time travel expac... Perhaps 6.0

Oh Gods, that could end up causing a time paradox at Cartenou. Go 5 years back to stop the calamity, it happens any way and Louisoix send us 5 years forward, only for 2.xx - 3.xx to happen and us get flung back in time again. That's a Psychic Telephone Paradox waiting to happen.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Oh Gods, that could end up causing a time paradox at Cartenou. Go 5 years back to stop the calamity, it happens any way and Louisoix send us 5 years forward, only for 2.xx - 3.xx to happen and us get flung back in time again. That's a Psychic Telephone Paradox waiting to happen.

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Carteneaux altering is the only potentional "break" though.

1.x Echo already functioned as pseudo time travel... you didn't just VIEW memory you LIVED it... you altered it you could bring things FROM the memory to the present despite it being a 5-10 year old memory. Certain things "Happened" in the past.. and it turns out WE DID THAT so without us going into the echo it wouldn't have happened.

the only problem is that 1.x echo "types" don't seem to exist anymore there is only "Memory viewing" echo now only this one can't participate, only view.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Oh Gods, that could end up causing a time paradox at Cartenou. Go 5 years back to stop the calamity, it happens any way and Louisoix send us 5 years forward, only for 2.xx - 3.xx to happen and us get flung back in time again. That's a Psychic Telephone Paradox waiting to happen.

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Don't worry, I seriously doubt they'll go that far. Maybe one-day we'll be able to witness it again, but changing it is highly unlikely. They'll end FFXIV first and we'll get ffxxii. If we get any time travel it will probably just be a couple instances to specific events.

The thing is that people asking for such an event/expansion in order to 'experience 1.0's story' fail to realize is that 1.0's story has been effectively abandoned by SE, at least, the original story anyway (the original starting city stories and the Path of the Twelve arc). This is because the original storyline was cannibalized for ideas and concepts that ARR's story was developed from, meaning it's just more of the same (the development team stated a while ago that any concepts or story ideas that were mentioned in 1.0 that don't appear in ARR have been effectively abandoned, meaning 1.0's is now retconned in a George Lucas-esque, "unless we say it is canon to ARR everything mentioned in 1.0's story is now abandoned", sort of way).

Thus this is pretty conclusive that even if a hypothetical FFXIV equivalent expansion to FFXI's Wings of the Goddess was later implemented, what we would see would actually be completely different to the actual story 1.0 players experienced, due to the previously mentioned retconning.

Remember, ARR is not so much a sequel story wise as a reboot in every way, including story. It means 1.0's story is gone forever I'm afraid.

I've made this suggestion somewhere before. It would be side content - sorta like the sightseeing log... you would get some information, get to an area where something was happening and then utilize the echo to relieve those moments. It could be a CS or actual combat or other stuff. Though frankly would like to see this a a lore giving questline anyway. Could show some older lore and stuff.

Ima pass on being reminded of 1.0 of FF14.
Also may I point out that the 1.0 world was fully re-implemented into the game and just updated but all remained in tact? I still recall Gridania exactly as it was before and now.
Your story idea could be fun but I would dislike the idea of playing anything of the 1.0 world ever again. It was gated to shit and utter trash.