Thought : Change class reqs for older gear (Glamour)

I personally think it would be a great idea to change some of the dated gear from being class restricted on glamour. Make it so all cloth types can at least glamour older cloth gear, leather wearers can cross glamour and so forth. Heavy armor can already (for the most part) cross glamour pieces.

*This would not extend to AF pieces, for obvious reasons.

Obviously not saying to change it all, but a good example could be the Cashmere Robe of Healing. If you're a BLM or SMN you only have the option to glamour the Acolyte Robe, which isn't even dyeable.

This would give people so many more options than what they have now, while still keeping in line with lore/logic of the game.

Does anyone else feel this could be a positive for the game?

If I remember well Yoshida said he did not want class to wear other class stuff because we "could have difficulties to recognize the job" and that he wanted to keep a certain "harmony" (but honestly......... does wearing a swimsuit while tanking really is ok then...?)

Sure, being able to wear "all cloth things" as a Mage class would be less shocking.
So... I am 200% with you OP but I don't believe it will change ;x

That is how I felt as well. Especially with the fact that it would keep the armor to the same armor class.

The job point is rather shot it this point with the statement you made. The only real thing differentiating jobs at this point is their weapons, and their artifact gear.

This could add some fun to the rp community, like a paladin wearing a robe and pointy hat like a mage, and making a story about it. But i'd love if they would let my hyur wear several miqote's style clothes and such.

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Originally Posted by BellaEyria

If I remember well Yoshida said he did not want class to wear other class stuff because we "could have difficulties to recognize the job" and that he wanted to keep a certain "harmony" (but honestly......... does wearing a swimsuit while tanking really is ok then...?)

Sure, being able to wear "all cloth things" as a Mage class would be less shocking.
So... I am 200% with you OP but I don't believe it will change ;x

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Yeah, that argument he used is horsesh*t. I mean, you can wear the coliseum galerus or the tafetta set on any job, rendering that argument entirely moot.

I hate that they still haven't relaxed those dumb restrictions. They're complete nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Lee-Akira

This could add some fun to the rp community, like a paladin wearing a robe and pointy hat like a mage, and making a story about it. But i'd love if they would let my hyur wear several miqote's style clothes and such.

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I mean yes -that- would add some interesting times as well, however that really wasn't what I was going for. I was more or less going for the casters in general can glamour the same gear, and as for melee (leather) can glamour each others as well. Granted with the current dress glamour options that are available now, paladins already exist with robes.

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Originally Posted by Zyrusticae

Yeah, that argument he used is horsesh*t. I mean, you can wear the coliseum galerus or the tafetta set on any job, rendering that argument entirely moot.

I hate that they still haven't relaxed those dumb restrictions. They're complete nonsense.

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Precisely, and all I'm really mentioning is only make it so we can glamour it. The class -wearing- restriction could still stand.

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Originally Posted by Lyni

Precisely, and all I'm really mentioning is only make it so we can glamour it. The class -wearing- restriction could still stand.

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i think it should still stand, but the requirements should be lifted a bit. instead of locking it to jobs the restriction should be set to "disciple of war" and "disciple of magic"

and consolidate all the bloody glamour crystals. why do we need 30+ different ones to do the same damn thing?!?

If you need to know what job someone is, look at their icon in party list.

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Originally Posted by saber_alter

i think it should still stand, but the requirements should be lifted a bit. instead of locking it to jobs the restriction should be set to "disciple of war" and "disciple of magic"

and consolidate all the bloody glamour crystals. why do we need 30+ different ones to do the same damn thing?!?

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I thought about wording it that way, but that would open up plate to NIN/MNK/BRD. So if they really are that worried about keeping class identification in place it wouldn't work.

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Originally Posted by Lyni

I thought about wording it that way, but that would open up plate to NIN/MNK/BRD. So if they really are that worried about keeping class identification in place it wouldn't work.

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It's a moot point. most armor in the game besides a few sets (mostly the tin-cans) are feasible to use in conjunction with most of the physical weapons in the game. archery would be one of the few exceptions as it isn't that easy to nock an arrow in full plate mail.


besides...are we not even going to acknowledge the existence of battle stances and job icons?

I would love this, my favourite jobs are Astrologian and Summoner, but I get so tired of our clothing choices.

I'd absolutely love this, especially considering glamour is kinda my endgame (as stupid as that may sound). Choices are a bit limited, and there are some awesome bard and monk pieces I'd want to try.

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Originally Posted by BellaEyria

If I remember well Yoshida said he did not want class to wear other class stuff because we "could have difficulties to recognize the job" and that he wanted to keep a certain "harmony" (but honestly......... does wearing a swimsuit while tanking really is ok then...?)

Sure, being able to wear "all cloth things" as a Mage class would be less shocking.
So... I am 200% with you OP but I don't believe it will change ;x

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When I played SWTOR, I purposely equipped/designed my PvP Bounty Hunter to be dressed as a Jedi/Sith hybrid (the BH armor plates with Jedi robes and other things). It was quite enjoyable and really helped create an identity for the character (RP or visual purpose). Given that things exist universally to be glamoured, like the swimsuit example you mentioned, such defense reasons as "difficulty to recognize" that they give are becoming less appropriate. Besides, that sort of excuse makes it sound like we're dumb as rocks lol. Kinda brings to mind the old philosophy of Japans games being dumbed down for American audiences decades ago because the outlook was that we were too stupid to figure out how an RPG works.

I'm glad to see that there are more with the same opinion. Maybe if we can get enough attention brought to it, we could get some changes!