Level 50 may need to be changed

It drags on... and on... and on.

I'm a new player. I purchased Heavensward shortly after making level 50 and was looking forward to it. Then I discovered that I'm a long way from being able to set foot inside the new zones.

Level 50 is too monotonous. I've done 4 out of the 5 chapters of main story line quests, several level 50 dungeons, several level 50 trials, and I'm still level 50 many days later. I've got one more long drawn out chapter's worth of main story-line quests to go. Even before the storyline EXP boost that came with Heavensward, I could still have leveled many times with the amount of work I've spent grinding away towards the privilege of going to the new world...

Constructively, this is too much. New players are going to get frustrated. My wife isn't even level 50 yet and she's getting frustrated watching me because she knows that soon she'll have to endure the very same thing. Why isn't there a way to circumvent all of this?

I'm tempted to quit... to find another game... all because of level 50. Being Alphinanud's trophy celebrity as he sends me to each city and back again to speak with dignitaries that accomplishes little more than nothing is no way to spend my days with the power my Black Mage possesses. These quests are dull and lifeless and unlike when they were written, level 50 isn't the max. I've got better things that I could be doing. These quests should not be mandatory.

The 2.0 lvl 50 content is not enjoyable? =/
I'm trying not to out-level the 2.0 content so fast and render them trivial because of 3.0 increased level cap =x

Jokingly - you may want to blame the QQ-ers back in 2.0 who complained that there wasn't enough content/quests/trials at lvl50.

The reason you're not enjoying yourself as you rush through the level 50 MSQ is because...you're rushing through it. Take your time. Enjoy the content you're playing.

Don't just rush to the endgame. This game isn't designed for that.

The need to complete the story up to patch 2.55 before accessing Ishgard is not a design flaw, but intention. I hate to say it, but if you're one of those people that live only for endgame content and tend to just rush leveling content, then this game will be endlessly frustrating to you.

Unfortunately, if you don't like stories and to take time enjoying the experience then the game is definitely not for you. Every quest in the game is there for a reason. It could be argued that some of the side quests are just fluff but even they often offer up interesting lore snippets.

It's never going to change, not with 2.x, nor 3.x, nor in the future. If they did it's likely a lot of people would find it boring as the entire premise of Final Fantasy is to tell a story.

There is no way to circumvent this because it wouldn't make any sense at all lore wise. The story explains thoroughly why you can't go to Ishgard before a certain point in the story.
On top of that: it was announced several months in advance that you'll need to have the storyline completed to go to the new areas.

I'm sorry your frustrated but that is how this is its not only to understand the story but it's also a gate to stop rmts going to the new areas.

So far IV yet to get a single rmt tell in game its so wonderful.

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Originally Posted by Naryoril

On top of that: it was announced several months in advance that you'll need to have the storyline completed to go to the new areas.

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OP is a new player. Even though this is the case, it hardly makes a difference for people who weren't around and level 50 before Heavensward.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

So far IV yet to get a single rmt tell in game its so wonderful.

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Lucky. I've ignored around 40 RMT characters since the expansion released. It was quiet for a few days, during Early Access, but that didn't last.

Even so, I'm just thankful that the number of RMT tells I'm getting is much reduced, and I've yet to get a single RMT friend request since the expansion.

I've read similar threads on this concern and as a new player myself, the thought of wading through all those MSQ just to see the expansion is daunting.

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Originally Posted by Fayden

I've read similar threads on this concern and as a new player myself, the thought of wading through all those MSQ just to see the expansion is daunting.

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The issue is, you shouldn't see it as wading through, like unblocking a toilet. It's an experience in itself that just happens to unlock Heavensward. You're seriously missing out if you don't just take it easy and enjoy the fascinating story that is ARR.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

The issue is, you shouldn't see it as wading through, like unblocking a toilet. It's an experience in itself that just happens to unlock Heavensward. You're seriously missing out if you don't just take it easy and enjoy the fascinating story that is ARR.

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This. Thinking about the level 50 MSQ as something that blocks your progress toward Heavensward is the wrong way to think. Instead, consider it as much a part of the game as Heavensward is. It's honestly no less a part of the game than any other level's MSQ chain. So, instead of worrying about when you'll finish it, just focus on enjoying it as you play through.

I was one of those people that hadn't completed the storyline when Heavensward came out (I was about 70 quests away) so I know the general feeling. You want so badly to be able to become the new classes and fly around on the new mounts and generally "be with the now". I was frustrated by it too at first but it's really not all that bad if you actually play the game as it was intended - for the story. FFXIV goes above other MMOs in that department because it's the core of FF games.

You'll get to the Heavensward content soon enough and without the storyline of how you get there and what has happened thus far... it just wouldn't be nearly as good or satisfying.

Why do people buy the heavensward expansion as new players is something I don't understand. There is literally no need to do so until you reach a point that you can access that content. It's like buying a cake and then putting it behind lock and key. Wait until you have gotten to the point that you can actually access the expansion then purchase it. There is a plethora of content in the main game enjoy it when you feel ready for something new purchase the expansion.

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Originally Posted by Avin00

Why do people buy the heavensward expansion as new players is something I don't understand. There is literally no need to do so until you reach a point that you can access that content. It's like buying a cake and then putting it behind lock and key. Wait until you have gotten to the point that you can actually access the expansion then purchase it. There is a plethora of content in the main game enjoy it when you feel ready for something new purchase the expansion.

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Maybe to be able to make their character be an Au Ra?

I mean, I can't think of many other MMOs out there, where there is NO content for new players on the expansion.

I also can't think of many other MMOs where you can't experience content with your friends when you're 50 because you haven't done two years worth of RP-catch up. It's ridiculous. They NEED to do something or this "RAF" effort is going to be completely moot.

People play console games for the story. They play MMOs for the community interaction.

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Originally Posted by Khalette

I mean, I can't think of many other MMOs out there, where there is NO content for new players on the expansion.

I also can't think of many other MMOs where you can't experience content with your friends when you're 50 because you haven't done two years worth of RP-catch up. It's ridiculous. They NEED to do something or this "RAF" effort is going to be completely moot.

People play console games for the story. They play MMOs for the community interaction.

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Why do new players need new content? That's not just a gross misallocation of resources that could be used on developing the new area for people who have constantly been loyal to the game, but it's appealing to a market that doesn't know that said content is new. Honestly, the only MMO I know out there that has new content for new players is World of Warcraft, and they were heavily shunned by the community for allowing players to basically skip everything to play new content.

You were warned repeatedly that you would need to complete the 2.55 storyline in order to access the Heavensward expansion, and to put it realistically, you can literally power through the Seventh Astral Era storyline in a day if you're so inclined. As people here will tell you though, this game is heavily based around the story, and that's why you can't put it to the same filter as other MMOs that put mundane grinds over story. Maybe 2 expansions from now they may think about compressing the story, but it's very unlikely that it will happen anytime soon.

It should also be noted that a good chunk of the player base is on the PS3 and PS4.

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Originally Posted by Khalette

People play console games for the story. They play MMOs for the community interaction.

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FFXIV has the expectation of being both because of FFs origins. It's not like any other MMO, like you stated. It is what it is. And that is an MMO based story game. Combining a riveting story and community interaction.

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Originally Posted by Avin00

Why do people buy the heavensward expansion as new players is something I don't understand. There is literally no need to do so until you reach a point that you can access that content. It's like buying a cake and then putting it behind lock and key. Wait until you have gotten to the point that you can actually access the expansion then purchase it. There is a plethora of content in the main game enjoy it when you feel ready for something new purchase the expansion.

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I bought it just before I leveled my Dragoon to 50 because I knew that I'd get xp for all the required level 50 quests. I'd like to not have to FATE grind between 50-60 because I've run out of story quests for my level, so the head start on those levels is a good thing. I haven't even completed the quests from 2.0-2.55 and my dragoon is level 51.

I assumed that the level increase was not part of the heavensward expansion my bad, I would say though that I've not needed to fate grind at all doing the MSQ in heavensward so far and from what others have said as long as you complete all the side quests you should hit 60 with no problems although it will give you a bit of a leg up for the early bits.

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Originally Posted by Soulfien

Then I discovered that I'm a long way from being able to set foot inside the new zones.

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But that's only because you still have things to do where you're at. You only need "new" content once you've run out of previous content. All the people complaining that there's still plenty of good gameplay to enjoy and it needs to be "fixed" to ensure everyone would have it over and done with and have nothing left to do are... well, just not making a lot of sense.

This is a game. It's not a chore you have to complete. It's something to enjoy. You should either be enjoying the part you're currently on, or you should be looking for a different game if you don't enjoy this one. If you don't like the content in ARR, why think you'd like the content in HW any better?

This game has too much content! Please devs! Give us less to do!