City Expansions?

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09-23-2011, 04:14 PM
Anima

City Expansions?

Posting this since I didn't find any Post about this. Excuse me If I am mistaken and please give me the link of the Thread If there are any :P

First off, I wanna ask something. Will we get any City expansions In the future? Is It on the Devs planned, regardless of priorities? Is it included in the Eorzea Re-design?

At the moment I think the City Architecture is really amazing, whether it be Grid, Ul'dah or LL, but It seems that the Area that we are able to traverse around seems so small. Look at Ul'dah, there are lots of Buildings and towers but we are not able to enter them. Same goes with LL and Grid, In my Opinion, I think this is a waste since this places could possibly one of the "Hanging out" and "Gathering" place for lots of people and attract people to a place in a certain city.

I hope they will add NPC actions & movements, worktime, Animated Object movements, or maybe even a Monster breaking into the City like in Ul'dah OP. I won't include detailed suggestions since there are other threads for this kind of Suggestions:

EDIT: It'd be cool If NPCs have daily routine like what someone in other threads suggested, It's kinda weird seeing 1 NPC doing 1 thing all the time :P

An Eorzea that is more alive and dynamic
Animated World Object
09-23-2011, 04:32 PM
Munba

Devs confirmed in a recent interview that city redesign is on the development plans. I think the animated flags in Limsa is only the first little step in the right direction. Btw, can't wait to hear details about this from Yoshi-p in the near future.
09-23-2011, 04:35 PM
OMEGA_HACK

There are some areas in each of the cities that we don't have access to yet, there are many theories as to where they might lead to though (housing/auction houses/city leader's area/etc).

But as far as the aesthetics of the cities I agree we need more subtle movement (besides players) these flags while incredibly small do add quite a bit to the towns and honestly I hope they stay. :D
09-23-2011, 04:49 PM
Anima

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Originally Posted by Munba

Devs confirmed in a recent interview that city redesign is on the development plans. I think the animated flags in Limsa is only the first little step in the right direction. Btw, can't wait to hear details about this from Yoshi-p in the near future.

Sounds nice, I can't wait to see It! and I do hope that Instanced Areas in cities such Market Wards (1 Instance for the whole Market, divided by rooms for each Market and connected by a Hall), Grand Company HQ, Elevator (Being able to move inside like in WKC) won't be Instanced anymore :D Also looking forward to bigger, and more traversable Cities!

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Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK

There are some areas in each of the cities that we don't have access to yet, there are many theories as to where they might lead to though (housing/auction houses/city leader's area/etc).

But as far as the aesthetics of the cities I agree we need more subtle movement (besides players) these flags while incredibly small do add quite a bit to the towns and honestly I hope they stay. :D

Yeah, like NPC walking, Work shifts, Chocobo Carriages on the main streets once in a while, etc. An Interesting place I found on Grid was the Roof of the AG, It looked like a cool place to stay.

AG Roof I
AG Roof II
09-23-2011, 08:27 PM
Akira_Tenshi

What i don't like is how so many areas are accessed from the same place, like in Uldah, the market ward, the grand company, the merchant ward are all accessed from the dunes. All of these places should have their own separate areas. How many more areas are they going to lazily stick here. They have the space so why are they just ramming everything into one place?
09-23-2011, 08:29 PM
Zetonegi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

What i don't like is how so many areas are accessed from the same place, like in Uldah, the market ward, the grand company, the merchant ward are all accessed from the dunes. All of these places should have their own separate areas. How many more areas are they going to lazily stick here. They have the space so why are they just ramming everything into one place?

The Market and Merchant Wards made sense that they'd be in the same general area. The Grand Companies and the wards... not so much.
09-23-2011, 08:36 PM
Ruisu

I seriously hope they do something about Limsa. The City looks great, but getting around it is really obnoxious. Having to go to a set of stairs three entire buildings away despite what you're looking for being right above you. Getting to the Fishing Guild, and leaving the city are just really painful. I tend to avoid Limsa, unfortunately. It's my favorite city aesthetically, but the layout is atrocious.

Also, I really don't like how I can't walk into the Hall of Flames, or the Market Wards. While I can understand the Market Wards, I should be able to walk into the Hall of Flames. Same goes for Boats. I understand why they did it, but I would prefer to interact with it myself instead of watching a cutscene. It's just an immersion thing for me. A few minor gripes that don't ruin the game for me, but fixing would make it all the more enjoyable.
09-23-2011, 09:02 PM
LuciBlack

They just annouced that we will be getting the 3rd floor of Uldah and the 4rth floor of Limsa in 1.19 ...
09-23-2011, 09:21 PM
Akira_Tenshi

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Originally Posted by LuciBlack

They just annouced that we will be getting the 3rd floor of Uldah and the 4rth floor of Limsa in 1.19 ...

Where? When? That's the first i have heard of it.
09-23-2011, 09:53 PM
Gidonoidon_Sur

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

Where? When? That's the first i have heard of it.

To answer your question. In his his small head earlier this morning.
09-23-2011, 10:00 PM
Betelgeuzah

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

To answer your question. In his his small head earlier this morning.

The Airship docks are located there.

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to...b5d8e02c36210c
09-23-2011, 10:04 PM
Gidonoidon_Sur

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

The Airship docks are located there.

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to...b5d8e02c36210c

Stop ruining my fun with 'facts.'

NOW GIT!
09-23-2011, 10:07 PM
Akira_Tenshi

Pfft that will probably just make you board the airship. I doubt there is actually an area on the 4th floor you can walk around in.
09-23-2011, 10:32 PM
Anima

I wish we could move around on the Elevators, like how it was in White Knight Chronicles. Yeah, like what Akira said, I do hope that they will make Wards, GC HQ and other Instanced town area "not Instanced", I'd rather walk up a stair or walk to reach the Markets or Grand Company HQ.

EDIT: I just thought of something that maybe could help people with experimenting Skills, Enmity, Abilities, WSs rather than going out there and bullying the Marmots :P. Something like a Training Dummy would be cool :D

EDIT II: I think "This" is what the Market Wards look like from the outside.
09-23-2011, 11:43 PM
Xatsh

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

Pfft that will probably just make you board the airship. I doubt there is actually an area on the 4th floor you can walk around in.

Grids Airship Port: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5jUT...eature=related
Limsa's Airship Port: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZYfZr74sIQ&feature=related
Uldah's Airship Port: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHLS4C8r1Bg

Not exactly sure how these where made, some 3rd party tool. But it clearly shows a area in each.
09-23-2011, 11:45 PM
syntaxlies

if you watch the promo vid for FF14 youll see very active npcs carrying crops and what not all up and down the streets.
09-23-2011, 11:48 PM
Anima

Quote:

Originally Posted by syntaxlies

if you watch the promo vid for FF14 youll see very active npcs carrying crops and what not all up and down the streets.

Yeah, too bad It wasn't in the game :(
09-24-2011, 01:29 AM
Akira_Tenshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xatsh

Grids Airship Port: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5jUT...eature=related
Limsa's Airship Port: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZYfZr74sIQ&feature=related
Uldah's Airship Port: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHLS4C8r1Bg

Not exactly sure how these where made, some 3rd party tool. But it clearly shows a area in each.

Oooh nice.
09-24-2011, 02:48 AM
PikachuLink

they have areas that havent even been made in each city....lilly hills and northern islands to name 2
09-24-2011, 03:38 AM
Sypherblade

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

What i don't like is how so many areas are accessed from the same place, like in Uldah, the market ward, the grand company, the merchant ward are all accessed from the dunes. All of these places should have their own separate areas. How many more areas are they going to lazily stick here. They have the space so why are they just ramming everything into one place?

maybe this is just a temp fix while they are working on the redesign of the cities....in the future they could possibly each have their own part of the map.
09-24-2011, 05:18 AM
Payadopa

I also think the Grand Companies should have their own (visible) areas/ entrances. While not very high on my personal wish list, it would be pretty awesome.

And whoooo! Airship docks! Can't wait for 1.19!
09-24-2011, 05:30 AM
Len

Integral parts of the main-scenario shouldn't be tucked away as menu options!

It would add a lot of character to the game to have them exist in the world.
09-24-2011, 12:23 PM
Anima

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sypherblade

maybe this is just a temp fix while they are working on the redesign of the cities....in the future they could possibly each have their own part of the map.

I hope it is >.> and that they have something up their sleeves for the cities! SE, please make them awesome!
09-25-2011, 02:11 PM
User201109011315

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

I seriously hope they do something about Limsa. The City looks great, but getting around it is really obnoxious. Having to go to a set of stairs three entire buildings away despite what you're looking for being right above you. Getting to the Fishing Guild, and leaving the city are just really painful. I tend to avoid Limsa, unfortunately. It's my favorite city aesthetically, but the layout is atrocious.

Also, I really don't like how I can't walk into the Hall of Flames, or the Market Wards. While I can understand the Market Wards, I should be able to walk into the Hall of Flames. Same goes for Boats. I understand why they did it, but I would prefer to interact with it myself instead of watching a cutscene. It's just an immersion thing for me. A few minor gripes that don't ruin the game for me, but fixing would make it all the more enjoyable.

Fishing guild can be quite a pain, but everything else is convenient enough. You don't even need your map, you can just use your eyes and look where you need to go.