Not sure if I'm just losing my mind here, so decided to post on forums for affirmation and / or be told I'm an idiot.
Cleric stance is supposed to swap INT and MND while also increasing attack magic potency by 10% and reducing healing magic potency by 20%. As the skill is right now it appears to only be swapping the INT and MND, not applying the attack magic potency increase or healing magic potency decrease. I'm not sure if this is related to the character sheet as I know for whatever reason things like presence of mind do not show on it anymore despite previously doing so (spell speed number remains unchanged even though GCD gets lowered)
Would be awesome to hear from other healers on this.
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06-30-2015, 02:18 AMkarterfreakCleric Stance bugged or just the character sheet not working as before?
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06-30-2015, 02:20 AMGhishlain
I could be mistaken but I believe modifiers like that aren't shown on the stat window and just applied as a bonus at the end of the calculation. I'm pretty certain if you used Divine Seal it also would not show the "Healing Magic Potency" rising the amount specified.
In terms of Presence of Mind, I think that's a typo and it's suppose to say "reduce your casting time by 20%". -
06-30-2015, 02:22 AMRisvertasashi
Heavensward did a lot of heavy surgery on things like stats and potencies and there have been a number on confirmed bugs already (healing buffs not affecting lustrate, asylum, etc for example). So it's possible.
But one thing to remember: just because it isn't showing on the sheet doesn't mean it isn't being applied. To confirm if it is or isn't, we need data... -
06-30-2015, 02:25 AMkarterfreak
Presence of Mind and the fairy buffs used to show on the character sheet and they were both stat modifiers. Divine seal isn't a healing magic potency modifier, but a spell based healing modifier (which is why it doesn't work on asylum and assize) so it might have a special case? I'm just extremely lost because I could have sworn this used to show on the character sheet.
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06-30-2015, 02:27 AMGhishlainYes, because both used to directly affect your Spell / Skill Speed with their buffs. Presence of Mind and Fey Wind no longer do that. Even though Presence of Mind states "increases spell speed by 20%" I believe what they meant to say was "reduce casting time by 20%" as using PoM removes 0.5seconds (20%) off my normal 2.5 GCD spells. I'm pretty certain 20% Spell Speed isn't that potent.Quote:
Originally Posted by karterfreak
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06-30-2015, 02:29 AMRisvertasashiI never checked the effect of CS on my sheet so I can't say. We can see if any theorycrafters collect data on it but alternatively, you could try submitting a bug report and seeing if it gets moved to the 'accepted bugs' section on the forum?Quote:
Originally Posted by karterfreak
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06-30-2015, 02:32 AMkarterfreakThat makes a bit more sense and explains PoM / fairy buffs not showing on character sheet anymore. Really hoping the same is applied to Cleric Stance's damage increase / healing reduction... just wish it was easier to confirm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghishlain
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06-30-2015, 02:40 AMGhishlainI believe Tasha was referring to the pre-3.0 Fairy buffs where it was the SpS and SkS buffs instead of what it is now, not what Selene can do now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cynfael
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06-30-2015, 02:41 AMCynfaelI deleted that post because I realized I'd misread it :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Ghishlain
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06-30-2015, 02:44 AMGhishlainThen I shall delete mine too! *Poofs*Quote:
Originally Posted by Cynfael
Nah, I didn't xD But I think I just respond to things too fast sometimes =p -
06-30-2015, 02:47 AMCynfaelI hear you there. The train commute to work = rapid-fire posting time for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghishlain
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06-30-2015, 02:53 AMCulfinrandir
From my recollection it just swapped the numbers around in the character sheet and didn't show an extra 10% etc. The effect of food shows up, as do FC buffs, but that's all I noticed.
In short, it's working the same in HW as it did in ARR. -
06-30-2015, 03:42 PMAurelinaus
It's always been like that. Only INT/MND swap has shown on the character screen when toggling CS. A lot of comments are from people just noticing now that you've pointed it out or talking out their anus.
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06-30-2015, 05:55 PMVelox
I was bummed about the PoM nerf. At first I was "meh, we lose 80% of the spell speed it gave, but at least it still buffs spell speed to go nicely with the new HoT formula." The after testing it in-game I was "it doesn't even affect spell speed anymore -_- way to double-nerf it SE." This change, coupled with the fact that divine seal does not work with any of the new job skills...is there any point to playing WHM anymore? SCH got enhanced heal power to bring it up to WHM level, but WHM did not get enhanced support/ mitigation to bring it up to SCH level. It would be fine thing if Divine Seal still gave the job an edge heal-wise, but it doesn't even work on the new "abilities." Asylum mostly is the biggest let-down for ignoring Divine Seal. I can forgive SE for the other 2 skills.
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07-01-2015, 02:36 AMRisvertasashiYeah the PoM nerf seemed... unnecessary. It released as a crap skill, SE buffed it to make it an OK skill, now it's pretty much crap again (Especially with SE making MP management so tight).Quote:
Originally Posted by Velox
That said, WHM is doing just fine. It's still the strongest (in the pure healing sense) of the three healers and Heavensward just made it even better while shoring up its weaknesses. And while I realize some might prefer the more technical SCH style or AST's think-on-your-feet with cards/buffs style, I'm finding WHM is quite fun.