Can we have dragon naming convention? [Spoilers?]

I like the names of the regular Dragons we come across, but I don't know what most of them mean!

This is just a request/suggestion to the if they post Dragon naming convention in the meaning.

So far we've only been given tidbits, but if you guys wanna contribute what's been translated thus far tat'll be great

And while we're at it, we should also get Vath/Gnath conventions, as well as the Vanu.

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Originally Posted by Terrini

And while we're at it, we should also get Vath/Gnath conventions, as well as the Vanu.

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According the quests with the Vath, they do not have a naming convention. I would assume this especially extends to the Gnath. The concept of naming an individual has only came to them recently through trading with hunters.

As for Dragons, as far as I can tell they have two separate names not including the first brood. Male npcs seem to have the convention go like this, Name letter name. Females on the other hand have a long singular worded name. As for how they name their young, still a mystery to me.

Yeah, since the Gnath/Vath share a hive-mind then perhaps they don't need a name. Just titles for their role in the tribe

Still leaves me curious about what language they use for their locales. Lore is love! We need more loregasms!

I believe they're all Norse.

Midgarsormr: Norse. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rmungandr)
Nidhogg: Norse. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%AD%C3%B0h%C3%B6ggr)

Bahamut: not norse.

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Originally Posted by Toranja

Bahamut: not norse.

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So it is inconsistent with Bahamut (being legacied into the IP), Vishap (Armenian) and Tiamat (Babylonian), while others seem to appear with a Norse basis.

Hraesvelgr: Norse. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hr%C3%A6svelgr)

Tiamat, Bahamut, and Vishap are all large mythological creatures, with Vishap simply being a dragon in his own lore. The adjusted statement could be that mythological beasts favor being named dragons, with evidence from the Norse ones as well.

Is there a lore thread on dragons, actually?
We got so much new information on their physiology, history, etc. and it would be nice to have a place that sums it all up, other than some coffee-stained scraps of paper on my desk.

So far it seems the normal dragons have 3 types of names:
1. A single name like Gullinkambi (according to SaintAjora it's made up of Old Norse words).
2. A name made of 2 words, like Sooh Non.
3. A name made of 2 words with "y" as a middle syllable, like Toh y Thrah (at first I thought only young dragons had it and it maybe meant something like "son of.." but adult dragons have it as well).

The high dragons have their own lore and naming of course, since they are rooted in real world mythology. At first I also thought females had the single name and males the 2 word-names, but I'm pretty sure I saw some deviate from that pattern so I'm not sure anymore.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

3. A name made of 2 words with "y" as a middle syllable, like Toh y Thrah (at first I thought only young dragons had it and it maybe meant something like "son of.." but adult dragons have it as well)

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Dont young dragons eventually become adult dragons, why would their names change after becoming and adult?

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Dont young dragons eventually become adult dragons, why would their names change after becoming and adult?

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Because that is a custom in many cultures, actually?
Full names are given when the person hits adulthood, until then they are treated as something that belongs to the person who made it, aka the parents, so the name reflects that.
With the nearly infinite age dragons can reach, it wouldn't be too weird to have that kind of tradition with their fledgelings who are merely 30-80 years old. The form of the name fit the idea, but like I said, that's not it since adults have the same type of name :)

Ratatosk(r) is also from Norse mythology. I think it's a squirrel or a rat, though.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

(although it might be of gaulish origin..?) like Gullinkambi.

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Gullinkambi probably has a meaning in old norse. I'm just thinking so because of so many of the dragons being named based on Norse mythology, and the fact that Heimdall has another name of Gullintanni, meaning golden toothed. Freyr also has a golden bristled boar named Gullinbursti.

edit: Oh! I stopped being lazy and went to look it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Gullinkambi ^^

Yeah that was just a wild guess by the sound of it since I don't know norse vocabulary :)
If the whole names are appearently taken straight from Old Norse, is that also the case for the other 2 types of names?

Gullinkambi is Norse. It's the name of a rooster in Valhalla that, with two other roosters (Fjalar who lives in Jotunheim, and an unnamed one in Helheim), will crow when Ragnarok begins.

Ratatosk is also Norse, it's the name of the squirrel that travels up and down Yggdrasil, trading insults with the unnamed eagle who sits on top of the World Tree, and Nidhoggr

It seems as if the high ranking/powerful dragons at least have a single name and are usually nordic in origin. Not sure if/how age factors I think there was atleast one Ess something something that's atleast 1000 years

I opened this thread thinking you guys were talking about specifically the Dravanian naming conventions (which we can start listing examples of and try to figure something out; sometimes things are obvious like with moogles). The conventions for dragons in general are much easier: big, important dragons get famous names from legends you'd find on Wikipedia. Everyone else gets names pulled out of obscurity from various nuanced encyclopedias (monster manuals, mythology compendiums, crytozoology lists).

I'd like to know the naming conventions of the dragons in Anyx Trine.

I think all but a few dragons are named in the draconic language of FFXIV. Certainly some are named in Earth languages, but it seems like a good bit are named in a unique language.

I just like that Hraesvelgr means "corpse swallower".

Oh right, about the dragon language..is it similar to any real life language?
Is it just gibberish or did SE actually make up a language with vocabulary, grammar and everything else?

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Originally Posted by waifugenerator

I'd like to know the naming conventions of the dragons in Anyx Trine.

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I would as well. Anonymoose, if it's possible do you think you could figure out how it works for the dragons there?

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Originally Posted by Atoli

Oh right, about the dragon language..is it similar to any real life language?
Is it just gibberish or did SE actually make up a language with vocabulary, grammar and everything else?

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I can't find the post at the moment, but one of the devs did say that the dragon language is made up by the dev team. It was meant to sound ancient and difficult for people to pronounce.

It's somewhere in the lore section, but will keep looking

It's true that most of major dragons' names come from Norse mythology, but minor dragons' names take their roots from Russian/Slavic folklore. Svarog, for example, is a major Slavic god. Goryshche is just a random word which means either 'a big mountain' (in Russian) or an attic (in Ukrainian). Most of SV dragons' names come from Russian/Slavic folklor, too.

Chudo Yudo is a classic Slavic monster. Koshchei, too, although, it never was a dragon in folklore. Gorynich is a classic dragon from Slavic folklore. Just food for thoughts.

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Originally Posted by Terrini

And while we're at it, we should also get Vath/Gnath conventions, as well as the Vanu.

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Not sure if someone answered but I think I figured out the Vanu naming conventions. They all seem to have two syllable first names. For example Guna, Gona and Hinu. From what I seen the second syllable must always start with a N but how it's pronounced does not matter. As for their last names it seems to either be Vanu or Vali. I have a theory that it signifies gender. Vanu for males and Vali for females. Of course, the naming convention is only for the Zundu and not the Vundu. I haven't seen enough Vundu names to arrive at a conclusion for them. Examples of names:

Guna Vanu
Gona Vanu
Hinu Vali
Sonu Vanu
Lonu Vanu

Regarding the Vanu Vanu they seem to be inspired by the Maori people of New Zealand. The Vanu Vanu dance is similar to the Maori war dance (Haka?) they also revere whales + art is similar to the Maori

I'm wondering about ancient Allag - specifically, what does "Azys Lla" even mean?