Macro Pallet & CON

So I was wondering how everyone has their macros setup for CON?

I use both ALT and CTRL for macros, ALT set 5 for 2nd row of action bar CTRL set 5 for 3rd set of action bar. I do it so that I never have to cycle up or down on the action bar cause that is a pain in the ass to do. Slows down my ability to function properly cause a lot of times I'd have to hit enter twice just to be able to press up or down on action bar.

Also for Action Bar 1 I have
1 Cure
2 Cure II
3 Cure III
4 Curaga
5 Curaga II
6 Sacrifice II
7 Siphon MP
8 Raise II
9 Punishing Barbs
10 Silena

For Action Bar 2 I have
1 Tranquility
2 Roaming Soul
3 Profundity II
4 Soughspeak
5 Chainspell
6 Shell II
7 Protect II
8 Shock Spikes II
9 Stoneskin II
10 Sleep

For Action Bar 3
1 Spirit Dart
2 Radiance
3 Aero II
4 Fire II
5 Thunder II
6 Blizzard II

and everything on Action Bar 1 & 2 are set to CTRL and ALT pallets.

I'm wondering what everyone else's setup are, or maybe get some suggestions on mine.

A few notes... I'm still leveling (currently 41), so my bars are probably a lot more mixed up than what others use who are 50 and set in their roles. Also, I mostly play with a friend, so I'm rarely alone and fighting nowadays.

Action Bar 1:

1 Spirit Dart
2 Guard
3 Scourge II
4 Banish II
5 Blizzard II (switch out depending on mob weakness)
6 Thunder II (switch out depending on mob weakness)
7 Sleep
8 Siphon MP
9 Cure II
10 Sacrifice II


Action Bar 2:

1 Tranquility
2 Blood Rite
3 Profundity II
4 Spiritbind
5 Dark Seal (Sometimes I will put Soughspeak here if I'm doing NMs or harder leves)
6 Roaming Soul
7 Shock Spikes (replace with Stygian Spikes depending on what I'm doing)
8 Stoneskin (soon, Stoneskin II, yay!)
9 Shell
10 Protect


Action Bar 3:

1 Elemental Shroud
2 Quickstride (just got this recently, very fun! lol)
3 Raise II
4-10 Nothing yet, out of action points :(

I use macros for healing, buffing, switching classes, and switching gear, generally. And if I'm doing NMs duo with my friend, my action bars change quite a bit. I take out most of the damaging spells and put in DoTs (Bio, Dia, Poison, Ele dots maybe) as well as Slow, Paralyze, etc.

I only have a couple of macros set for spells -- Cure II <p1> and Sacrifice II <p1>

And my basic Conjurer action bars are set up as:

Bar 1:
1. Spirit Dart
2. Elemental Shroud
3. Nature's Fury
4. Levinbolt II
5. Fire II ※
6. Burn II ※
7. Flare ※
8. Blizzard II ※
9. Frost II ※
10. Sleep

Bars 2 & 3 -- Healing group:
11. [often empty but used as needed]
12. Cure II
13. Sacrifice II
14. Curaga II
21. Second Wind (to heal myself without using MP)
22. Chainspell
23. Raise II
24. Rebirth

Bars 2 & 3 -- Buffing group:
17. Protect II
18. Shell II
19. Shock Spikes II (or Stygian Spikes II as needed)
20. Stoneskin II
27. Exaltation
28. Tranquility
29. [often empty -- but sometimes Roaming Soul or Spiritbind go here]
30. Siphon MP II

The middle block of 15, 16, 25, and 26 get filled as needed with things like Debuffing magic, or Rampart and Chameleon.

※ Slots 5 through 9 are usually set to Thaumaturge attacks like Bio II, Dia II, Banish II, Scourge II and Poison when doing NMs or Dzemael.

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Originally Posted by Technolust

So I was wondering how everyone has their macros setup for CON?

I use both ALT and CTRL for macros, ALT set 5 for 2nd row of action bar CTRL set 5 for 3rd set of action bar. I do it so that I never have to cycle up or down on the action bar cause that is a pain in the ass to do. Slows down my ability to function properly cause a lot of times I'd have to hit enter twice just to be able to press up or down on action bar.

Also for Action Bar 1 I have
1 Cure
2 Cure II
3 Cure III
4 Curaga
5 Curaga II
6 Sacrifice II
7 Siphon MP
8 Raise II
9 Punishing Barbs
10 Silena

For Action Bar 2 I have
1 Tranquility
2 Roaming Soul
3 Profundity II
4 Soughspeak
5 Chainspell
6 Shell II
7 Protect II
8 Shock Spikes II
9 Stoneskin II
10 Sleep

For Action Bar 3
1 Spirit Dart
2 Radiance
3 Aero II
4 Fire II
5 Thunder II
6 Blizzard II

and everything on Action Bar 1 & 2 are set to CTRL and ALT pallets.

I'm wondering what everyone else's setup are, or maybe get some suggestions on mine.

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I have been looking for a similar setup for the same reasons of cycling through the action bars.
Could you please post or pm me the basic structure of the macro? I cannot seem to find any info online about it, no matter how hard I hit the search button.

For my CTRL Bank 5
/ac "Tranquility" <me>
/ac "Roaming Soul" <me>
/ac "Profundity II" <me>
/ac "Soughspeak" <me>
/ac "Chainspell" <me>
/ac "Sleep" <t>

For my Pro & Shell Macro it is the following:
/aoe on
/ac "Shell II" <me>
/wait 7
/ac "Protect II" <me>
/wait 9
/aoe off

For my Stoneskin & Shock Spikes Macro:
/aoe on
/ac "Roaming Soul" <me>
/ac "Shock Spikes II" <me>
/wait 6
/ac "Stoneskin II" <me>
/wait 9
/aoe off

For ALT Macro Bar 5
/ac "Spirit Dart" <t>
/ac "Radiance" <t>
/ac "Aero II" <t>
/ac "Fire II" <t>
/ac "Thunder II" <t>
/ac "Blizzard II" <t>

I'm really surprised to see that no one has put dmg mitigating abilities on their bar. Sentinel, Defender, Rampart II, Tempered Will II, and Featherfoot. All of these are great for those "OH SHIT" moments when you get heal aggro. with curaga being about the best way to pull aggro in the game, you need to have something that can make you just a little more survivable. Doing stronghold parties you get alot of aoe dmg things going on, curaga is damn near a must, and if you die so does everyone else typically

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Originally Posted by Radamanth

I'm really surprised to see that no one has put dmg mitigating abilities on their bar. Sentinel, Defender, Rampart II, Tempered Will II, and Featherfoot. All of these are great for those "OH SHIT" moments when you get heal aggro. with curaga being about the best way to pull aggro in the game, you need to have something that can make you just a little more survivable. Doing stronghold parties you get alot of aoe dmg things going on, curaga is damn near a must, and if you die so does everyone else typically

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Good point.

Depending on the situation, I have Rampart and Chameleon on my bar as Conjurer.

I never thought about putting Featherfoot there since it only works once -- but I suppose that's better than nothing.

And since I often play a DD role, Defender never appealed to me... but perhaps this is one I should reconsider for emergencies since I seem to pull hate in Natalan a lot more often than I want to. ><;

I play, for the most part, strictly a healer, I rarely do any DD. although when I do find those few moments to do dmg im usually debuffing. so dont notice the side affects of defender. on healing, however, defender doesnt seem to lessen the heals much. with defender on i think it takes away about 50 hp from my heals. featherfoot, although I havent really tried to test it, will regen mp once you evade an attack. thats the way the ability reads anyways, lol. rampart, tempered will and sentinel, are pretty much my oh shit buttons. doing the NM in U'Ghamaro Mines, those abilities saved my butt since there are like 20 mobs accompanied. when you just do an aoe burn healers pull alot of aggro since most arent "really" trying to keep hate. when you do 1 curagaII everyone instantly turns towards you, so I pop my (literally its labeled) oh shit button (sentinel, tempered will ii, rampart II) and i can survive the onslaught. after I pop that button since alot of the mitigating abilities do not stack persay I wait for for some abilities to drop and I hit featherfoot... its the only way I found that I can survive some of these clusterFu$% moments, lol

Radamanth,

Thanks. That's good advice.

I'm seldom the only Conjurer in the party, so I don't have to play as a dedicated healer. But if I do, I should definitely rethink my ability bar.

I also just attached an Evasion +23 Materia to my outfit, so hopefully that helps. ^^
Next Materia is either more Evasion or Defense.

I should probably also get Gladiator up a little more so I can at least get Rampart II and Sentinel. I don't have those yet.

just a thought, but, as a mage the idea is to "not get hit". by no means am I saying your wrong in doing evasion or defense, but I think that would be a waste for a materia slot. I stick to hard numbers mp/hp, healing potency, magic potency, and the biggest one of all I think.... -enmity, a definite must have. only reason why i disagree to the materia you have chosen is that since numbers are static now, with no point allotment, some numbers arent worth raising cuase your jsut going to get one shotted as a squishy mage anyway, defense being one of them.
My current defense is 343
I know glads are pushing over 1000, hence that point
I know everyone's play style is different so its hard to say what a cookie cutter Conjurer is, but thats what I roll since I play with the idea of, im not "going" to get aggro or get hit. of course real in game is different, lol

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I had a debate with a fellow ls member about abilities such as chameleon and second wind. the debate was that every mage should have those on their bar. my side was not, only due to the fact that they are TP abilities and not mp. VERY RARELY I get tp, so in order for it to work I need to equip invigorate jsut so I can gain tp. so then you are stuck using up to 9 action points for second wind, invigorate, and chameleon, used up space imo, lol
I know this isnt a materia slotting thread but hey, tangents are awesome! lol

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Originally Posted by Radamanth

just a thought, but, as a mage the idea is to "not get hit". by no means am I saying your wrong in doing evasion or defense, but I think that would be a waste for a materia slot. I stick to hard numbers mp/hp, healing potency, magic potency, and the biggest one of all I think.... -enmity, a definite must have. only reason why i disagree to the materia you have chosen is that since numbers are static now, with no point allotment, some numbers arent worth raising cuase your jsut going to get one shotted as a squishy mage anyway, defense being one of them.
My current defense is 343
I know glads are pushing over 1000, hence that point
I know everyone's play style is different so its hard to say what a cookie cutter Conjurer is, but thats what I roll since I play with the idea of, im not "going" to get aggro or get hit. of course real in game is different, lol

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Yes, everyone's play style is different.

I'm trying Evasion because I don't want to get hit and Defense to make my survivability a bit higher in the event that I do get hit.

On my first set of gear I attached Manathirst for MP+35 and Healer's Hand for healing magic potency +15.
But to be honest, 35MP is hardly anything now. And I was really disappointed with the Healer's Hand. A friend and I were casting Cure 3 repeatedly to see what effect Healer's Hand had... and umm... No appreciable difference. The amount we heal is random and that almost completely negates the effect of Healer's Hand. I really felt like I wasted over 1 million gil on it. ><

I came close to buying Touch of Serenity for Enmity -8, but it is only attachable to your waist. And right now our waist options are pretty much limited to the raptorskin belt -- which is just too white and clashes with the rest of my outfit. ^^;

Basically, we're in a transitional period right now, so I've decided not to go all out on equipment because better, more appropriate items are surely coming out later.

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I had a debate with a fellow ls member about abilities such as chameleon and second wind. the debate was that every mage should have those on their bar. my side was not, only due to the fact that they are TP abilities and not mp. VERY RARELY I get tp, so in order for it to work I need to equip invigorate jsut so I can gain tp. so then you are stuck using up to 9 action points for second wind, invigorate, and chameleon, used up space imo, lol
I know this isnt a materia slotting thread but hey, tangents are awesome! lol

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I DD a lot and since 1.19 we generate TP quite rapidly, so I am able to use Second Wind and Chameleon (very long cooldown though) quite a bit more. And I have Out of Sight on my ability bar.

I also have nerve drops usage set to a macro, so if I'm pulling hate from a specific target I can use those to drive its attention away from me. ^^

Surprised no one mentions much on magic evasion. I try to stock up on that, as I am generally more avaliable to damage from AoEs then any other form of damage, I find AoE nukes are best dealt with, with magic evasion.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Surprised no one mentions much on magic evasion. I try to stock up on that, as I am generally more avaliable to damage from AoEs then any other form of damage, I find AoE nukes are best dealt with, with magic evasion.

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Which monsters regularly use magic attacks?

I usually have Shell on my sequence of buffs, but beyond that I've always felt it was a bit unnecessary to use protection against magical attacks -- but that could just be my lack of understanding.

Times I can think of where magic evasion would be useful:

- ghosts in Dzemael
- Natalan where they use Wind AoE attacks
- Halatali zombies that use Poison (and burn?)
... anything else?

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Originally Posted by Mikita

Which monsters regularly use magic attacks?

I usually have Shell on my sequence of buffs, but beyond that I've always felt it was a bit unnecessary to use protection against magical attacks -- but that could just be my lack of understanding.

Times I can think of where magic evasion would be useful:

- ghosts in Dzemael
- Natalan where they use Wind AoE attacks
- Halatali zombies that use Poison (and burn?)
... anything else?

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- Mage beastmen such as the THM mobs in Zahar'ak
- The majority of Ifrit's moves that a CNJ might get hit by

I think we've covered the main ones...

I think Magic Evasion is more important than Defence for a CNJ. You can dodge most physical moves with a Featherfoot and hopefully the tank can then pull back the hate before the mob gets second hit at you.

So far, my setup is:

Bar 1
1) Profundity II
2) Roaming Soul
3) Chainspell
4) Tier II CNJ elemental attack (Fire II, Blizzard II etc)
5) Tier II CNJ elemental attack
6) Tier II CNJ elemental attack
7) Tier II CNJ DoT attack (Burn II, Drown II etc)
8) Scourge II
9) Banish II
10) CNJ Ancient Magic (Flare, Tornado etc)

Bar 2
11) Cure II
12) Sacrifice II
13) Curaga II
14) Raise II
15) Soughspeak
16) Siphon MP
17) Tranquility

Bar 3
21) Shell
22) Protect
23) Shock Spikes II
24) Stoneskin II
25) Defender
30) Spirit Dart

I'll add Stygian Spikes once I have some spare points, and I've probably forgotten some abilities.. Some other skills I'll use against higher level NMs when I party, like Spiritsong, Bio/Dia/Poison/Absorb ATK etc.

im really enjoying this thread ^^ the first thread that no one is trolling and im getting a good idea of how other con's are playing. i think its the healer mentality... =P

Bar 1
1) Sacrifice II
2) Cure II
3) Cure III
4) Stoneskin II
5) Curaga
6) Curaga II
7) Sleep
8) Siphon MP
9) Chainspell
10) Rebirth

Bar 2
11) Protect II
12) Shell II
13) Shock Spikes II
14) Stygian Spikes I
15)
16) Scourge II
17) Banish II
18) Ancient Magic
19) Tranquility
20) Raise II

Bar 3
21) Roaming Soul
22) Profundity II
23) Blood Rite II
24) Spiritsong II
25) Soughspeak II
26)
27)
28)
29)
30) Spirit Dart

My bars are somewhat like this as 50 CNJ/35 THM... may have missed out one or spells, but yeah. As you can probably tell, I do like to heal.

I don't really use macros, not even for buffing. But I do use Scourge/Banish macros to save me having to scroll up and down through the bars all the time (*prays for multiple bars shown simultaneously*), since if I stick my Scourge/Banish on the first bar it would interfere with my healing somewhat.

Edit: Actually, I have Tranquility and Spiritsong macros, a lot less hassle then scrolling through the bars. I don't really like using macros for spells though, since you can't see the cooldowns... which is pretty annoying.

My Bar usually changes pending on role / fight. Since last update (1.19 my bar has been like this for Ifrit)

Usually when I need more DoTs I remove sac II / cure / cure II and just keep the III's
But yeah :3

-I don't use many macros, I do have a Stoneskin II<st> and a sleep macro, but thats about it!

Action bar 1:

1) Sacrifice II
2) Cure
3) Cure II
4) Cure III
5) Sarifice III
6) Curaga
7) Curaga II
8) Soughspeak II
9) Sentinel
0) Second Wind II

Action Bar 2:

1) Spirit Dart
2) Chameleon
3) Rampart II
4) Punishing Barbs
5)
6) Stoneskin II
7) Shockspikes II
8) Shell II
9) Protect II
0) Roaming Soul

Action Bar 3

1) Defender II
2) Tranquility
3)
4) Invigorate II
5)
6) Dark Seal II
7) Slow
8) Raise II
9) Rebirth
0) Chainspell

Had Siphon on here, but since we've spammed Ifrit so much MP really doesn't become a issue for us and a 2nd slow rotation is more important to our group. Any time we have a stronghold raid, Siphon MP + Featherfoot II will usually replace slow pending if we have a debuffer present.