Meditation: a nuisance to our community.

This is more just a quality of life complaint, but the Meditation sound effect is incredibly annoying when you're building 5 stacks of Chakra after every single pull in a dungeon and in the field. Not only is it grating on myself, but I feel like a nuisance to my party who has to listen to me rev up for 5 seconds every pull.

Would it be possible to make Meditation give 5 full stacks when not in combat? The system itself during battle I don't have a problem with, just the act of building so frequently out of combat.

System > User Macros > New macro

/action "Meditation" <me>
/wait 1.5
/action "Meditation" <me>
/wait 1.5
/action "Meditation" <me>
/wait 1.5
/action "Meditation" <me>
/wait 1.5
/action "Meditation" <me>

I feel like I remember hearing somewhere that macros don't work in fractions of seconds, but this gets me to 5 stacks at least with one button click.

I had to turn party player effects down to 30 because I couldn't stand the sound when I play a Monk. Meditation should sound soothing or at the very least pleasing to the ears as it's name suggests. Game is literally unplayable.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kanti

This is more just a quality of life complaint, but the Meditation sound effect is incredibly annoying when you're building 5 stacks of Chakra after every single pull in a dungeon and in the field. Not only is it grating on myself, but I feel like a nuisance to my party who has to listen to me rev up for 5 seconds every pull.

---

The development team is actually planning to make adjustments to the sound effects for both Meditation and Form Shift, so please hang in there a bit while they work on this.

Hey camate can u pass it on YOSHI to make not same cool down as our Weapon skill so we can weave it in between weapons kill and actually use it while in combat or the above post use meditation 1time and grant us 5 chakra stacks

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

The development team is actually planning to make adjustments to the sound effects for both Meditation and Form Shift, so please hang in there a bit while they work on this.

---

Oh thank you! Those are great news!
The loud sound effects are definitely annoying, but I also would like to see some attention regarding the 5-button spam "between" every single fight. Having to build 5 stacks "during" the actual fight is perfectly fine and understandable, no complaints here, but spamming it after every single engagement is getting tiresome and its even starting to hurt my fingers :/

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kanti

Sound effect of Meditation

---

Good, you got an answer to your plea!
I've yet to start lvling my MNK but I've heard a lot about Meditation's sound effect being annoying.

Saddly I can't agree with your request of making it give 5 stacks out of combat. As a NIN, I could be in a party in a dungeon and so long my enemy list is clear I am not in combat, so I abuse my Hide skill to Trick Attack enemies my party is fighting once I killed my current target (by not AoEing at all) and save me a Ninjutsu spent on Suiton.

So, so long you dont hit more than one enemy, you could kill your chakra stacks, kill the monster, and use Meditation to give 5 stacks in one go before attacking the other mob.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

The development team is actually planning to make adjustments to the sound effects for both Meditation and Form Shift, so please hang in there a bit while they work on this.

---

Thanks for the info. The first time I heard it, it was "Oh what? Oh that must be the new MNK thing." After a few dungeons with MNKs, it was more "OK, you can stop now, I dont mind if the run takes a little longer..."

ive actually not seen this in action and i havent lvled a mnk yet
is there a vid of this?

Still don't like how everything except Elixir Field is directly or in-directly related to downtime... Especially the fact that you need downtime to use Purification (to build stacks), when you really want that TP when there's no downtime.

Still a nice fix though.

Just change the sound effect AND make it give 1 Chakra stack every few seconds, cancelling on next weaponskill cast (so we cast it only once during downtime).

That and possibly give us 1 Chakra stack passively for each Greased Lightning stack we gain.

Or let us use it oGCD inbetween weaponskills as we please (perhaps will small CD).

Idk, it could just be a lot better... please respond about MCH proposed changes or imbalances! Please!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

The development team is actually planning to make adjustments to the sound effects for both Meditation and Form Shift, so please hang in there a bit while they work on this.

---

Why dont you simply make it a channelled cast, giving 1 stack for every second with a maximum cast time of 5 seconds. It would suit the whole "meditation" theme better imo, would only have to press the button once rather than spam it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

The development team is actually planning to make adjustments to the sound effects for both Meditation and Form Shift, so please hang in there a bit while they work on this.

---

Splendid. Thank you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

The development team is actually planning to make adjustments to the sound effects for both Meditation and Form Shift, so please hang in there a bit while they work on this.

---

Personally, I would greatly prefer that Darkside not be horribly annoying to the eyes. Everywhere, in all cities, an annoying (and annoyingly large) red aura plagues my view. It's just terrible to look at and ruins screenshots and the mood of conversations with NPCs. Could the dial for it be turned down or, at the very least, allow me to not have to look at it by turning off everyone else's effects in the settings? It would be greatly appreciated.

If we could get an aura - like ssj when we have all 5 stocks that would be awesome

When the MNK in our FC was doing this, I didn't know what to say except give him a pat on a shoulder. I seriously feel sorry for the monks.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

The development team is actually planning to make adjustments to the sound effects for both Meditation and Form Shift, so please hang in there a bit while they work on this.

---

Nice. I'll get to hear Soken's tunes again.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Boyzby

Personally, I would greatly prefer that Darkside not be horribly annoying to the eyes. Everywhere, in all cities, an annoying (and annoyingly large) red aura plagues my view. It's just terrible to look at and ruins screenshots and the mood of conversations with NPCs. Could the dial for it be turned down or, at the very least, allow me to not have to look at it by turning off everyone else's effects in the settings? It would be greatly appreciated.

---

Have to agree; the effect just doesn't even look good. Leveling with my wife in a dungeon last night on my DRK and as soon as I activate Darkside I hear: "What is that stupid looking effect? It looks like something from a game out of the 90's."...

Hoping to see patch notes where they claim it was a bug causing it to display larger than intended or something. ._.;

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tribunus

Why dont you simply make it a channelled cast, giving 1 stack for every second with a maximum cast time of 5 seconds. It would suit the whole "meditation" theme better imo, would only have to press the button once rather than spam it.

---

A cast would mean we can't move while using it, which is a major problem. Most times where we would be able to stack it in combat, we're still moving around dodging AoEs.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Camate

The development team is actually planning to make adjustments to the sound effects for both Meditation and Form Shift, so please hang in there a bit while they work on this.

---

While they are at it, can they please change Dark Arts's sound effect as well? It is really just as annoying.

Nuisance? No way. Mnk finally has a skill to spam in town and annoy everyone else. :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Brill_

Nuisance? No way. Mnk finally has a skill to spam in town and annoy everyone else. :)

---

No love for Arm of the Destroyer? :p

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Brill_

Nuisance? No way. Mnk finally has a skill to spam in town and annoy everyone else. :)

---

monk could do that already :P arm of the destroyer

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Garlyle

A cast would mean we can't move while using it, which is a major problem. Most times where we would be able to stack it in combat, we're still moving around dodging AoEs.

---

That wouldnt be an issue if its giving a stack every second, you can simply cast it again if your having to move around due to AoE. Any other time like between pulls or during an untargetable phase (primals going from phase 1 to 2 etc) you can simply let it channel rather than spam an annoying skill.

The idea behind it is great, but the execution by the dev team is poor. It just needs a bit of fine tuning.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tribunus

That wouldnt be an issue if its giving a stack every second, you can simply cast it again if your having to move around due to AoE. Any other time like between pulls or during an untargetable phase (primals going from phase 1 to 2 etc) you can simply let it channel rather than spam an annoying skill.

The idea behind it is great, but the execution by the dev team is poor. It just needs a bit of fine tuning.

---

I Think this is too complex a solution, Simply reducing the stacks needed to 3 and making Stance Shift a off globle 30 second cooldown of 1 ability Perfect balance would solve this completely and not effect the way they was intended to be used.

'Twould be cool if Forbidden Chakra and Purification granted GL3 as well :/
Would solve a lot of this dilema :v

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Reinfeld

System > User Macros > New macro

/action "Meditation" <me>
/wait 1.5
/action "Meditation" <me>
/wait 1.5
/action "Meditation" <me>
/wait 1.5
/action "Meditation" <me>
/wait 1.5
/action "Meditation" <me>

I feel like I remember hearing somewhere that macros don't work in fractions of seconds, but this gets me to 5 stacks at least with one button click.

---

The system rounds up. So typing <wait.1.5> would be the same as typing <wait.2>.

on that thought, you are wasting lines!

Code:

---

/ac "Meditation" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Meditation" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Meditation" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Meditation" <me> <wait.2>
/ac "Meditation" <me> <wait.2>

---

FTFY!

aaaaaand fixed.

What's fixed?

the patch notes say they changed the audio for Meditation and Form Shift.

i can only assume they made it less annoying.

Thank you for fixing this. Form Shift and Meditation are now much less noisy. I also really dig the dust cloud and foot stomp effect at the end of Form Shift--I don't think they were there before. Or maybe not.

Point is, less noisy.

The whole Form Shift animation still looks so stupid. Featherfoot would be perfect for it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Waliel

The whole Form Shift animation still looks so stupid. Featherfoot would be perfect for it.

---

... Try doing Featherfoot without effects. It would really look ridiculous to do so repeatedly.

The explosion sound of Form Shift along with the dust and animation does makes me think my cat just farted tho... 'twould been cool if they made 3 different animations for each form transition (and 3 battle iddle stances depending on your current form while they were at that)