Don't know about you guys but I just don't like the fact that you can either one shot mobs the same level as you or take up mobs that's 10 levels higher then you :/. Atleast give players a sense of danger when heading into some areas as well... Killing stuff like rats... bugs... & Rabbits doesn't make me feel like a true hero in the land of eorzea... Even at lv1 they atleast should give us some Epic mobs to fight like Orcs... Dancing Weapons... o.o and yes... Undead Fomors that wanna steal your candys only after dark lol... :D, But seriously get rid of the training wheels of this game... Hardcore gamers wanna have fun too! Bring on the Epicness baby! ^.~
Gimme us a XIV Hard mode already >.<
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09-18-2011, 03:19 AMDrunk-BanditGimme us a XIV Hard mode already >.<
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09-18-2011, 03:24 AMArcell
You do know this game was always designed and advertised as a more casual game right? I mean if you want a super-obnoxious hardcore game fest this probably isn't the game for you >.>
To be fair though the game has gotten harder as things have gone on, though yes it is a bit easy still. I mean it used to be you could just zerg things with 15-man parties, just throw more DD/Healers at it since MP management was non-existent. Thaumaturges could solo most of the high-level NMs, groups didn't require skill, dungeons didn't exist, etc...
I don't know about you but walking around some of the zones in this game is suicidal even as an R50. The main roads are mostly safe but they're not always the fastest way somewhere. -
09-18-2011, 03:26 AMPyrix
So long as you're not advocating that I shouldn't be able to solo things my level like in FFXI I'm fine with this.
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09-18-2011, 03:29 AMKonachibi
Run across the left side of Mor Dhona and try to kill the basilisks on your own.
There's a bit of hard mode for you ;)
I'd also like a bit of extra difficulty, though I wish they'd do something that was difficult but not the point of using:
Fire > Cure > Thunder > Cure > Blizzard > Cure > repeat.
Unless I'm playing the hard way and that's why I have to do that >.>' -
09-18-2011, 03:45 AMDrunk-Bandit:/ Actually already preordered Dark souls for this... lol Only Wish this game would follow it's footsteps tho :D muhahahahaha!!!, but yea I see whatz ya saying... I don't wanna see solo gaming go away however more pty content and skillful play sure would be nice... hopefully the New Job system will bring this to reality ^^Quote:
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09-18-2011, 04:19 AMSAMINUS
The invasion of the empire attacks are a pretty good challenge, so is trying to solo Goobue, Molboro, some NM's. Rabbits, rats, and bugs aren't meant to be a challenge. That is like me going outside, ripping a weed out of the ground and yelling to the sky to give me a challenge when I could be trying to rip up a tree nearby. QQ
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09-18-2011, 04:23 AMKonachibiXDQuote:
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I heard from guys in my LS that Cactaur Jack is a pain in the whatsit if you try and take him on at his level. (1000 needles and all that, y'know?) -
09-18-2011, 04:46 AMCarmilliaIf you don't like one-shotting mobs at your level or kill mobs 10 levels above you, try 20 levels above you ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunk-Bandit
Sense of danger is there if you go to area with level 90+ mobs :P
What we need I think is more excitement tightened to a story. Grow fear for some NPC and make us fight him. Like the dude in the rank46 cutscene for example, can't wait to challenge him in a fight! -
09-18-2011, 04:53 AModettego to play ffxi seriouslyQuote:
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09-18-2011, 04:55 AMDrunk-BanditJust Stop and think... XIV wouldn't be here if it wasn't for XI lol Get off my lawn and stop trolling my legQuote:
Originally Posted by odette
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09-18-2011, 05:00 AMKonachibiIs FFXI still active? And if so, are there any players on it anymore? I heard they all hung around abyssea or something like that so all the starter cities are sparse of players. Sounds a bit like the state of Dalaran in WoW when I left... eeeeeeempty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunk-Bandit
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09-18-2011, 05:01 AMSeikninkuruCan you provide some examples to support your argument?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunk-Bandit
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09-18-2011, 05:08 AMZetonegi
FFXIV Hard Mode::
1) You must have initial equipment
2) You cannot a lot points
3) Have fun
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09-18-2011, 05:22 AMGrendel
It shouldn't have to be up to the players to limit themselves for the game to provide challenge :/
But I think as far as difficulty goes the game is starting to head in the right direction, the r45 dungeon was difficult when it first came out and even the most hardcore LS's thought so until strategies were found and copied. People couldn't figure out the ogre at first let alone Batraal. Any content in an MMO gets easier when you figure out how to do it :p -
09-18-2011, 05:27 AMDGMartI know where you are coming from but you can't expect to be a hero if there is no real hero story line yet. We are all just pawns at the moment. The game won't let you be a hero, hopefully one day that will happen but who knows when it's going to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunk-Bandit
From the sound of it though, you really miss 11. Let's be honest this game is kinda going into a 11 style type of gameplay with more emphasis on casuals so maybe down the line they will have epic dragons, turtles, cats, bears that do meteor etc. Trust me I want those too. Hopefully sooner than later. -
09-18-2011, 05:35 AMZantetsuken
Demon's/Dark Souls and Monster Hunter are great games for challenge lovers. (Of which I am)
I agree that this game is too easy currently, but Yoshi has already said that the endgame will spike heavily in difficulty. Just wait for the new stuff.
As long as difficulty =/= time sink (at least directly), I'm in favor of it. -
09-18-2011, 07:16 AMKonachibi
Just got back from doing Ren's leves and the whole time I was doing them I was thinking of this thread.
Hard mode is already here IF you're willing to take up the challenge of it being hard. Most people go for a cookie cutter spec so they get conjurer to a certain level so they can use shell, protect and cure, then level the class they want. The extra buffs from conjury make it much easier, and there's other classes that have skills and spells that can also make it easier.
The reason I thought about it was because I've only ranked up Ren as a Pugilist, she has very minor Archer skills but other than that nothing else, her skills are whole-heartedly shaped for pugilist. this means I don't have the damage reductions from protects or shells or other skills, and only one means to heal myself - Second Wind. I died about 3 times doing one leve, fighting bandits and raiders in Thanalan. I'd gone for a 2 star difficulty even though I was only rank 21 'cos I figured "What the hell, may as well."
Each fight was a 2 on 1, they could easily do 100-150 damage to me each blow, which made me glad I'd stacked a lot of evasion on Ren (Literally, she's almost a tank with her evasion stat! :p) but even so I found myself having to bash attacks and buffs like there was no tomorrow to stay alive. And like I mentioned, I died 3 times doing it, one of them was a case of either my next auto-attack made me win the fight, or his next attack killed me... his attack came first.
So yeah, if you want a hard mode, it's already there, you just need to be prepared to try it and face the consequences, 'cos you'll find you'll die a lot more often, and need to repair after each day of doing leves. -
09-18-2011, 07:17 AMCharismatic
Gimmie us.
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09-18-2011, 07:24 AMTsukino
I blame the people who whined about having to dodge a couple antlings and a goobbue.
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09-18-2011, 07:27 AMPicoman
It would be nice to see Alliance content added by December. Three parties of eight would be nice.
I wonder if opening up the R50, R60 and R70 Camps would be cool. Would be fun to go take down the R70 Levequest or Behest with 24 players. -
09-18-2011, 07:40 AMSAMINUSYa I tried him out solo with my r50 PUG, was too difficult for me at the time, I will go after him again when I get Sentinel from my Glad class. only 2 ranks to go! ^^ That Spriggan NM got the best of me as well.Quote:
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09-18-2011, 07:47 AMKonachibiHehe, there's someone in my LS as well that's managed to make a proper cookie-cutter class. He can solo nearly any NM he wants to and often helps us out whenever we want to take one down to get some gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAMINUS
He doesn't always help though, he actually regrets building his character that way because it's caused him to have a lack of challenge, and he's looking forward to the jobs in 1.21 so he can specialise in one thing and get the difficulty back from not having multiple skills. Even now he's ranking up classes he never bothered with before with us just so he has something to do and a little more challenge as group things tend to be a bit harder. The other day he died for what must be the first time since he joined the LS a few weeks ago and everyone was like "OMG RUN! If Len's dead then we're all gonna die!!!" XD