Please introduce echo related quests

And we can be like Sherlocke Holmes (if he was a psyhic), and deduce puzzles and solve crimes with it, eventually solving all of life's most elusive mysteries.

Is this a troll post? You're a notorious troll on these forums, so its hard to say.

Also, theres been lengthy posts about this already.

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Originally Posted by Avraym

Is this a troll post? You're a notorious troll on these forums, so its hard to say.

Also, theres been lengthy posts about this already.

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That's offensive. I prefer the term Indigenous Persons of the FFXIV Forum.

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Originally Posted by User201109011315

That's offensive. I prefer the term Indigenous Persons of the FFXIV Forum.

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Hey, trolls be trollin'. Your reputation is your own to tarnish.

Why you would choose to do so in a game that will most likely become even more community based, is beyond me.

Alas, I'm all for echo related Quests. At the moment echo plays very little in the game and has much potentional.

I merely thought that such quests would be a more fitting/innovative addition to the game in stead of boring sidequests that you just use anima to finish.

NPC: Hey, you there, please do this quest for me.
Me: Okay your wish is my command. *teleport teleport teleport* There, all done.
NPC: Wooo, can you feel the excitement!
Me: /logout

For example, I don't know if you're familiar with L.A. Noir but basically it's a game where you use subtle "tells" in body language to figure out if someone's lying and thereby solve crimes. In a similar fashion, The Echo, coupled with an improved parley system (symbolic language minigame), could be used to add an extra dimension to questing.

Status quo. Status: no.

As always, loving the contribution.

If you weren't such a negative nancy, people would contribute to your thread with an intellegent manner, you brought this to yourself. If you really want to help this game, make a constructive posts that doesn't starts with you talking down the game or the current producer every single time.

"HOLY JESUS THIS GAME SUCKS SO BAD AND OUR PRODUCER? NUH UH"
"MY IDEA WILL DEFINITELY WORKS, SO LISTEN TO ME"



and to contribute to your thread, yes i'd love to see more uses to our power of echo.

I want the echo to be used as a way to replay past cutscenes instead of goblin footprints. It makes sense to me at least. Also if we could eventually replay past events (imperial assault and easter) for those who misses their achievments that would be really nice of SE.

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

If you weren't such a negative nancy, people would contribute to your thread with an intellegent manner, you brought this to yourself. If you really want to help this game, make a constructive posts that doesn't starts with you talking down the game or the current producer every single time.

"HOLY JESUS THIS GAME SUCKS SO BAD AND OUR PRODUCER? NUH UH"
"MY IDEA WILL DEFINITELY WORKS, SO LISTEN TO ME"

and to contribute to your thread, yes i'd love to see more uses to our power of echo.

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Oh, funny, I forgot how you and everyone else were oh-so-perfect. Pfft, too much arrogance, always.

On topic: yes, wouldn't that be just swell?

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Originally Posted by Zahak

I want the echo to be used as a way to replay past cutscenes instead of goblin footprints. It makes sense to me at least. Also if we could eventually replay past events (imperial assault and easter) for those who misses their achievments that would be really nice of SE.

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Replaying cutscenes is a given, but replaying events is something I hadn't even considered.

Perhaps SE intends to repeat most events every year though? So it might be pointless if that is their intention.

Lots of people down on User, as per the usual, but really, who would you rather hear: 10 yes men applauding every decision S-E makes no matter how terrible, or one outspoken critic who may be at times a bit much, but through their cynicism often raises valid points? I may be alone in this, but I'd choose the latter.

Also, why not just bump your original thread?

Edit: Oh, you did. Disregard.

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Originally Posted by quantumsaint

Lots of people down on User, as per the usual, but really, who would you rather hear: 10 yes men applauding every decision S-E makes no matter how terrible, or one outspoken critic who may be at times a bit much, but through their cynicism often raises valid points? I may be alone in this, but I'd choose the latter. Also, why not just bump your original thread?

Edit: Oh, you did. Disregard.

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I'm with you. You're not the only one who thinks that: It's like this:

A very mediocre artist makes a very decent looking artwork, but the anatomy is mangled and thumbs are on the wrong side of each hand, one eye is bigger than the other, etc.

A few comments are made:

"wow this is great!"
"You're so talented!"
"OMG this is awesome!"

AKA: "There's something wrong but I don't want to hurt their feelings, so I'll let them hear what they want to hear and compliment everything they do because they'll eventually get better."

and then an artist better than mediocre artist comes in and gives him a simple critique on his work to get better:

"While your style is decent and your coloring is superb, I have to point out the anatomy, humans won't be able to pose like that, trying posing the way your character in said artwork is posed and tell me that doesn't hurt. her eyes are too big, one is rather smaller than the other, human thumbs are inward, not outward etc."

AKA: "You have flaws in your work, here's how I can help by pointing them out to try and help you help me help you."

So now the other people start raging at this fellow for posting an honest critique trying to HELP him get better:

"OMG YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ART YOU SUCK!"
"Stop trollin' you big fat meanie!"
"Don't you have anything better to do than to put down someone else about their artwork? I bet you couldn't do any better!"

What they don't realize is that people can't get better by blowing sunshine up their a**, if you don't point out their flaws and mistakes, then they'd have the notion that they're the best thing since sliced bread and there is absolutely nothing wrong with their work, when there is.

This is how I see the community here, one person comments or critiques SE on their direction of the game, and all of a sudden their opinion and criticism is less than theirs because they don't agree or see nothing wrong.

That's...actually a decent idea and it plays well into the systems already set in.

Good going. I'd like to see you be this reasonable more often.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

That's...actually a decent idea and it plays well into the systems already set in.

Good going. I'd like to see you be this reasonable more often.

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This is how I see how it would fit in:

(Not just the main quests but quests around town)

Little girl: Mister Roegadyn Sir, I lost my Marmot, he ran away from me but IDK where he went he's black and white and he glows a blueish tint.

*Use the Echo?*
Yes<
No
Optional: Ask her where she last was or the people she was with.

*If you use the Echo it will show you a short CS where the marmot was last seen (running into a cave with another group of marmots from an unknown marmot eater/catcher)

*If you ask her who she was with and where, you will have to look for the NPC and ask him/her about the marmot's whereabouts and where it was last seen

(Find marmots in the cave ambushed by the marmot eater/catcher and beat the malarkey out of him)

*!? appears and your character picks up the marmot, your character model is now literally holding the marmot*

*you take marmot back to little girl and depending on what you used to find the marmot (The Echo or friend) your reward changes*

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Originally Posted by User201109011315

And we can be like Sherlocke Holmes (if he was a psyhic), and deduce puzzles and solve crimes with it, eventually solving all of life's most elusive mysteries.

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I think this can work pretty nicely, if you tie it in with good story telling and some fights.

Anyways, I wouldnt mind this, they should expand the echo related stuff. It's a good concept!

I actually hope there is more use to the Echo besides cutscenes... I would love to use the echo outside of the main quests... (I mean, we ARE special characters that hold a power a few chosen others have)

Agreed. The Echo is a really good concept. A shame that it's only used a handful of times so far.

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Originally Posted by Sav

Agreed. The Echo is a really good concept. A shame that it's only used a handful of times so far.

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I can actually think of a quest when a woman thinks her husband is cheating on her and wants you to use the echo on him (That'd be a hilarious quest)